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Shannon9955 · 01/02/2025 20:56

Today we went to smyths toy shop with my little girl who is 2, we went to buy her a treat since she's been potty trained and nappy free now for a week. She was so excited, roaming around each aisle to see what she wanted. She had picked what she wanted and we just carried on looking, she saw a little girl run past her, this little girl was miles in front of her parents and my little girl would make friends with a brick wall, she is so social. My little girl thinks this girl is racing, so she instantly runs with her, I of course run after my little girl and the parents have obviously caught up and with their child. When I turn the corner my daughter has run round, the girl she chased was pushing her saying "get away girl, go away now" I heard the parents saying their child's name and stop it before I turned round the corner.

But I was a bit taken a back, it was a silly innocent thing. But in that moment I just thought what a nasty child. My daughter was being harmless. I just grabbed her hand and said come on let's go now and pay for your toy. But it's really bothered me all day and I wish I'd of said something because I feel so bad my daughter has just been plodding along and then randomly gets pushed and told to get away. The parents didn't even say sorry. If my child did that I'd be so apologetic. I just feel so sad in that spilt second that she was there without me and she's getting pushed. It's really upset me

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Salad666 · 03/02/2025 22:25

Shannon9955 · 02/02/2025 00:08

You really are pushing the narrative of my 2 year old being a monster aren't you. You really are continuing to make me seem an incompetent parent for the 3 seconds I wasn't in eye shot of my child

Are you mad? 😂 You're pushing the narrative of the FOUR year old being a monster because she pushed which was told off for by her parents but you're trying to push the narrative that your daughter is a perfect angel and she just wanted to play sad face 🙄..

maybe because she's 2 and that's probably how a 2 year olds mind works. Sees more than one child running and thinks it's a game

So maybe you should be a parent and teach her that not everything is a game. Not everyone wants her in their space. Not everyone wants to be chased after...sorry "raced". The little girl obviously felt uncomfortable, maybe she thought she was being chased. Maybe she was scared but no, she's a nasty monster.

Maybe the 4 year old is still just learning, they don't know how to be mature and say "no thank you, I don't want to play or want you in my space" so she reacted in a way that small children often do and her parents rightfully told her off straight away for it.

But I can see that you're not going to listen. Your daughter is a perfect angel and how dare other kids not want to play with her or let her invade their space.

I'm sure that's learned behaviour.

Salad666 · 03/02/2025 22:18

Who said she was allowed to run? Maybe the parents took her hand and told her not to run off? Like you apparently did with your child.

She clearly wasn't allowed to push because she was told off instantly.

Salad666 · 03/02/2025 22:17

Shannon9955 · 02/02/2025 00:02

@hideawayforever agree! They are all trying to make it look like my daughter chased and then did something to be pushed. People need to get a grip

You need to get a grip. Maybe the other child did think she was being chased and regardless of that your daughter was invading the other child's space. Not everyone has to play with your kid.

Salad666 · 03/02/2025 22:15

Shannon9955 · 01/02/2025 23:46

@hideawayforever exactly this!! Making out my child is a monster and was hurting the child to give reason to push. I've been called a rubbish parent, I haven't been doing my job. Absolutely pathetic. Also presuming the other child was sen. What an odd thing to suggest.

I hold my hands up and I probably shouldn't of used the word nasty. But in that moment I thought what a nasty thing to do by pushing

Still reading the thread but find it absolutely hilarious how your having a tantrum that people are "making your child out be a monster" when you did exactly that to the other child.

Your child is not special, she has no right to be running next someone or to be invading their space no matter the age or intentions. Should she have been pushed? No but the other girl was also a young child that was told off. You, however, apparently just told yours not to run off without you. No mention of staying out of people's personal space or trying to force themselves on someone (in terms of playing).

You and your child were in the wrong.

The other child was wrong for pushing but her parents actually did some parenting and told her off straight away.

This whole thread is ridiculous, as are you. You were wrong. Your child was wrong. Maybe you should learn boundaries and then you can teach your child some.

Also as an aside, I cannot stand children running around and parents thinking it cute. Is fucking annoying.

FallOfTheHouseOfUtterlyButterly · 03/02/2025 04:24

Never seen such a "PFB" post before

The situation was dealt with. Get over it and move on

GiddyCrab · 02/02/2025 23:50

It's a shop not a playgroup. Keep your kid with you.
Yes it's normal for toddlers to push. Some bite and kick too.
You are being ridiculous.

ohfook · 02/02/2025 23:46

It just seems to me like your kid ran off and she shouldn't have. The other kid pushed her and she shouldn't have either.

Two kids both doing something they shouldn't - you chased after your kid, the other parent told their kid to stop. It just doesn't seem like a big deal. Shit like this happens quite a lot in parenting tbh because kids are imperfect.

If you're still thinking about it now though, can I kindly suggest you stay away from any soft plays. Those places are lawless!

RoseofRoses · 02/02/2025 20:52

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MyLimeGuide · 02/02/2025 20:25

Gastore · 02/02/2025 10:05

I'm a primary teacher and have to say that you are showing the signs of being the Mum we all dread.....

What? Caring about her kid?? I'm a secondary school teacher in a SEN school and her post seems perfectly reasonable to me.

MyLimeGuide · 02/02/2025 20:22

hideawayforever · 02/02/2025 09:23

yeh its you.

And another one.....

MyLimeGuide · 02/02/2025 20:21

MyLimeGuide · 02/02/2025 20:20

Proving my point of the 50%. In case you haven't realised, you and the other haters, the little girl isn't reading this post, I'm replying to the OP and providing her my opinion and trying to help her with anxiety My nature is to not try and make others feel shit about themselves for honest posts or personal opinions (like the 50%)

I meant to quote the roses roses post!

MyLimeGuide · 02/02/2025 20:20

Tobycarvery11 · 02/02/2025 08:53

I think everyone knows who the actual "mean girl" is

Proving my point of the 50%. In case you haven't realised, you and the other haters, the little girl isn't reading this post, I'm replying to the OP and providing her my opinion and trying to help her with anxiety My nature is to not try and make others feel shit about themselves for honest posts or personal opinions (like the 50%)

mainecooncatonahottinroof · 02/02/2025 18:39

Shannon9955 · 02/02/2025 00:08

You really are pushing the narrative of my 2 year old being a monster aren't you. You really are continuing to make me seem an incompetent parent for the 3 seconds I wasn't in eye shot of my child

What if this had happened on the street, and she had run into busy traffic? My 2 year olds were in buggies!

ScaredyMa · 02/02/2025 18:25

@Gastore I'm a Primary School teacher too and after your unprofessional comment, I imagine you're the kind of Teacher that all the Parents dread!

mainecooncatonahottinroof · 02/02/2025 18:23

Gastore · 02/02/2025 10:05

I'm a primary teacher and have to say that you are showing the signs of being the Mum we all dread.....

I was just going to say that schooldays will be long and onerous for this OP!!

muggart · 02/02/2025 17:54

@Curtainqueen yes i would agree with you that if the 2 year old grabbed the other kid then a reactive push would be normal.

Someonelookedatmypostinghistorysoichanged · 02/02/2025 17:50

“So my child can't be herself is what everyone is trying to say? I'll have to tell my TWO year old that not everyone wants to be friends.”

Yes that is right. You teach her about the world.

You need to reverse this… the other child can’t be herself and tell your child to go away…. She didn’t want to be chased, and told your daughter to go away. The end.

Your dd picked the wrong wall to befriend this time and it’s your job to ensure she understands this.

Curtainqueen · 02/02/2025 17:50

muggart · 02/02/2025 17:44

I'm surprised at how many people seem to think it's normal for a 4 year old to push a smaller child. I would crack down very hard on my 3 year old DD if she did anything like that. I also think that thinking the OP should apologise for her DD's behaviour, who was essentially trying to make a friend, is a bit mad.

I wonder if there's a difference in how people are perceiving the push. A gentle hands out to keep the 2 year old at bay is nothing but an aggressive push is pretty weird behaviour imo. OP hasn't really specified tbf.

Once a boy, around 4 or maybe a little older i wasn't really sure, shoved my DD in a supermarket. She was 18month old and went skidding along the floor. She wasn't physically hurt but was shocked and hysterical about it. She kept crying and saying "boy! boy!" 😢 Anyway his mum apologised immediately and grabbed him to drag him away, I felt kinda bad for her actually! But I also thought that OF COURSE she was right to apologise. I would feel horrible if it were the other way around.

There's not enough context. We don't know what triggered the push because OP was out of sight around the corner. (Even though she keeps changing the story).

With that in mind, if for example the trigger was that the OPs child had grabbed hold of the other child to try and stop her from running would you still be saying it wasn't normal for a 4 year old to push?

muggart · 02/02/2025 17:44

I'm surprised at how many people seem to think it's normal for a 4 year old to push a smaller child. I would crack down very hard on my 3 year old DD if she did anything like that. I also think that thinking the OP should apologise for her DD's behaviour, who was essentially trying to make a friend, is a bit mad.

I wonder if there's a difference in how people are perceiving the push. A gentle hands out to keep the 2 year old at bay is nothing but an aggressive push is pretty weird behaviour imo. OP hasn't really specified tbf.

Once a boy, around 4 or maybe a little older i wasn't really sure, shoved my DD in a supermarket. She was 18month old and went skidding along the floor. She wasn't physically hurt but was shocked and hysterical about it. She kept crying and saying "boy! boy!" 😢 Anyway his mum apologised immediately and grabbed him to drag him away, I felt kinda bad for her actually! But I also thought that OF COURSE she was right to apologise. I would feel horrible if it were the other way around.

SALaw · 02/02/2025 15:39

Shannon9955 · 02/02/2025 00:10

@TotalDramarama24 maybe because she's 2 and that's probably how a 2 year olds mind works. Sees more than one child running and thinks it's a game

More than one child? I thought just one child. And I've never known a 2 year old just run off alongside a stranger child running in a non-play environment, no

Curtainqueen · 02/02/2025 14:57

zingally · 02/02/2025 11:11

What was a cute moment for you, of your toddler running with another child, was probably a bit scary for the other child (who was presumably a similar sort of age).

Put yourself in the shoes of the other child. If you were minding your own business in a shop, and suddenly become aware of another adult seemingly chasing after you, wouldn't you have told them to stop/go away? And if you'd had the (lack of) social skills that a toddler has, you'd probably have pushed them as well.

Neither child was to blame. Yours was just being a toddler, but the other child wasn't unreasonable to react with fear and annoyance at seemingly being chased by a stranger.

Thing is she doesn't even know how the interaction started because she was around the corner out of sight momentarily.

For all OP knows her child could have tried to stop the other child running and grabbed her hand or something. It's hard to know because OP keeps changing the story every time someone raises the possibility that the other child might have perceived the interaction differently.

SherbetSweeties · 02/02/2025 12:28

Shannon9955 · 01/02/2025 23:46

@hideawayforever exactly this!! Making out my child is a monster and was hurting the child to give reason to push. I've been called a rubbish parent, I haven't been doing my job. Absolutely pathetic. Also presuming the other child was sen. What an odd thing to suggest.

I hold my hands up and I probably shouldn't of used the word nasty. But in that moment I thought what a nasty thing to do by pushing

I don't mean to imply that at all. Your daughter sounds lovely and friendly. But the otherl little girl is not entitled to be chased or play with your child. No she shouldn't have pushed and it sounds like the parents told her to stop pushing etc
We teach children about being allowed to say no to hugs and kisses etc I suppose in this situation that little girl was saying no. But she's a samll child and sometimes small children react by pushing etc it doenst make her nasty.

lollylawyer · 02/02/2025 11:11

Shannon9955 · 01/02/2025 22:55

Read all the thread and I did reply with what I'd say when asked.

Nope, you really haven’t. I’ve read all your replies. You’ve said you expected the other parents to apologise but you haven’t said what YOU should have done differently. You saying to them something like “aren’t you going to apologise” wouldn’t have helped the situation and would have escalated it.

for what it’s worth I’m not one of the posters who wants to berate you for your child running off, just that the other child is very young too at 4/5 and her parents did tell her off - that child is obviously still learning too. So I don’t think there is anything more that should have been done in this situation so I am curious to know what you think you should have done or said differently.

zingally · 02/02/2025 11:11

What was a cute moment for you, of your toddler running with another child, was probably a bit scary for the other child (who was presumably a similar sort of age).

Put yourself in the shoes of the other child. If you were minding your own business in a shop, and suddenly become aware of another adult seemingly chasing after you, wouldn't you have told them to stop/go away? And if you'd had the (lack of) social skills that a toddler has, you'd probably have pushed them as well.

Neither child was to blame. Yours was just being a toddler, but the other child wasn't unreasonable to react with fear and annoyance at seemingly being chased by a stranger.

Tobycarvery11 · 02/02/2025 10:51

NeverDropYourMooncup · 02/02/2025 10:02

I'm not going to rein her up at every event unless she gives valid reason to

A valid reason like running off around a corner out of your sight in pursuit of a stranger she wanted to make friends with?

You describe her as wanting to make friends with a brick wall - combine the two things, running away and being friendly towards everybody whilst you also have a baby to take care of makes her a perfect example of exactly why reins are a good idea for safeguarding toddlers and preschoolers.

Exactly, no one is telling you how to parent, but especially with a baby in tow running after your toddler at a moments notice whilst also pushing a pram is less than ideal. You're taking any form of constructive criticism as a personal attack. People are just saying, consider that you don't know all the facts because you were out of eye shot for a couple of seconds, and perhaps don't just allow her the freedom to run off.

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