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“I find women too difficult”

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calvermegan · 01/02/2025 20:37

Having a conversation at work about funny house share stories. I mentioned I lived with 6 other girls during my uni years (we got on great and are still friends now).

Colleague said I’d hate that as I just find women so difficult and they always dislike me. Colleague is female and constantly says how well she gets on with men.

Aibu to think saying this is just bizarre? All men and all women are not the same. I’m not going to like or dislike you based on your gender.

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thaegumathteth · 01/02/2025 22:11

I've shared flats with men and women and some of them have been arsehokes regardless of sex.

Most of my friends now though are female.

CheekyHobson · 01/02/2025 22:10

I’ve done house-shares with men and women and generally I prefer women; in my experience they’ve been more chill, more sociable, more considerate, better at keeping the place clean and sharing chores evenly, and less likely to hit on me when drunk.

I wouldn’t rule someone out entirely because of gender but to be honest my experiences would definitely inform my decision on who to live with.

I have male and female friends though the vast majority of my close friends these days are women due to just getting on better with them.

ZippyDoodle · 01/02/2025 22:09

movingonsaturday · 01/02/2025 21:17

This is common among autistic/adhd people. It's not malicious so why be upset about it? It's an observation this person has made about themselves

I get on better with blokes but I'm quite direct. Blokes don't hold grudges if you say something that might upset someone.

I suspect I am neuro diverse.

thenightsky · 01/02/2025 22:05

The older I get, the more I appreciate and love my female friends.

AdjectiveColourAnimal · 01/02/2025 22:05

I tend to find men easier to be around than women, although my closest friendships are with other autistic women. I just find men easier to read for some reason. I think they use less non-verbal communication and I struggle to understand facial expression and body language.

I probably wouldn't mention this to anyone though (except on an anonymous forum) as I know it would sound odd.

LittleMyLittle · 01/02/2025 22:05

Men and women do broadly differ in their social interactions, some of which will be due to how we are taught to relate to other people as we grow up.

I'm neurodivergent and had some really horrible experiences with other girls growing up - I didn't understand their unwritten social rules and conventions, and the penalties for breaking them can be particularly brutal for a neurodivergent girl. It does get easier as everyone matures but I do personally find it difficult to find a female social group where I fit in.

Men are usually easier for me to fathom (and they tend to respect my bluntness rather than find it rude), at least until they start wanting more than friendship. That's unfortunately killed a few friendships since they didn't want to hang around after I turned them down.

Of my current set of friends, my closest two are a married man and an autistic woman. But I would like more neurotypical female friends (I currently have one) - I get very excited when I gel with someone who matches that description. It's difficult to find them as an adult though.

For work / living / friendship groups, I prefer them to be mixed rather than all one sex or the other.

Babybaby2025 · 01/02/2025 22:04

EmpressaurusKittyBella · 01/02/2025 20:46

Almost all my friends are women. Probably partly because I’ve met a lot of them through feminist campaigning & lesbian groups, but I’m generally more comfortable socialising with my own sex.

My experience in regards to people who say things like this ^, and the person the OP is referring to, is that they are the problem, and there is reason other women don't enjoy their company

Shimmyshimmycocobop · 01/02/2025 22:03

My sister says this, she finds women in groups difficult to get on with. I strongly suspect she's ASD, undiagnosed, but we have a strong family history of it. She says she finds women in general bitchy, my experience has been the opposite but I wonder if she just struggles with some unspoken social cues.

sometimesmovingforwards · 01/02/2025 22:01

SleepyHippy3 · 01/02/2025 21:57

Oh give over, will you. What sweeping generalisations. All the things that you described as men being are all the things that women can be as well and vice versa.

I’m sharing my opinions based on experience.

Rachmorr57 · 01/02/2025 22:01

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SleepyHippy3 · 01/02/2025 21:59

Cornflakes123 · 01/02/2025 21:54

It’s fine to prefer the company of males or females that is someone’s personal choice and they can live their life that way if they prefer to. However it’s ridiculous to make blanket statements like “women lie “ or women are “difficult” or men “never hold grudges” etc etc

Exactly! The misogyny on here is rife.

SleepyHippy3 · 01/02/2025 21:57

sometimesmovingforwards · 01/02/2025 21:52

In my experience a group of males tend to be more of a team. On the surface they seem harsh to each other with their ‘banter’ but beneath it they rub along in a ‘live and let live’ kind of way. Their group cooperation is often quite practical, they seem to need nor want much direct emotional support from each other.

A group of females on the surface seem much nicer to each other, but beneath it tend to be more competitive, individually selfish and want / resent others having the spotlight of attention. Basically it’s just more drama.

I think the best working or living groups are actually mixed. But I’d never live or work in an exclusively female environment, would find it very tiresome quite quickly.

Oh give over, will you. What sweeping generalisations. All the things that you described as men being are all the things that women can be as well and vice versa.

niadainud · 01/02/2025 21:57

itsnotalwaysthateasy · 01/02/2025 20:43

I'd much rather spend time with males than females. Females in my experience tend to lie. only look after themselves and have tried to drag me down. Men say it as they see it and never hold grudges. They tend to have a better sense of humour too.

I know several men who are world class at holding grudges.

Cornflakes123 · 01/02/2025 21:57

sometimesmovingforwards · 01/02/2025 21:52

In my experience a group of males tend to be more of a team. On the surface they seem harsh to each other with their ‘banter’ but beneath it they rub along in a ‘live and let live’ kind of way. Their group cooperation is often quite practical, they seem to need nor want much direct emotional support from each other.

A group of females on the surface seem much nicer to each other, but beneath it tend to be more competitive, individually selfish and want / resent others having the spotlight of attention. Basically it’s just more drama.

I think the best working or living groups are actually mixed. But I’d never live or work in an exclusively female environment, would find it very tiresome quite quickly.

i used to work in a very female dominated profession and now I work in an office with men and women and honestly I don’t find it much different.

Cornflakes123 · 01/02/2025 21:54

It’s fine to prefer the company of males or females that is someone’s personal choice and they can live their life that way if they prefer to. However it’s ridiculous to make blanket statements like “women lie “ or women are “difficult” or men “never hold grudges” etc etc

sometimesmovingforwards · 01/02/2025 21:52

In my experience a group of males tend to be more of a team. On the surface they seem harsh to each other with their ‘banter’ but beneath it they rub along in a ‘live and let live’ kind of way. Their group cooperation is often quite practical, they seem to need nor want much direct emotional support from each other.

A group of females on the surface seem much nicer to each other, but beneath it tend to be more competitive, individually selfish and want / resent others having the spotlight of attention. Basically it’s just more drama.

I think the best working or living groups are actually mixed. But I’d never live or work in an exclusively female environment, would find it very tiresome quite quickly.

GirlOverboard123 · 01/02/2025 21:51

Female posters on here make negative generalisations about men ALL the time without being challenged. But as soon as anyone makes a negative generalisation about women they screech about how unfair it is and how all women are individuals. It's pretty funny really.

Copernicus321 · 01/02/2025 21:43

IsItAllRubbish · 01/02/2025 21:37

You mean thankfully they’re not all like Brian Cox, surely?!? Dull as dishwater!

Well, I think he's cute and you can probably tell from my username that I think he's fascinating.

I've just thought of a new game, 'fantasy houseshare'.

SleepyHippy3 · 01/02/2025 21:40

User67556 · 01/02/2025 21:31

This

This what?

FaithFables · 01/02/2025 21:39

User67556 · 01/02/2025 21:31

This

So you're admitting you're also a frequent liar, then?

IsItAllRubbish · 01/02/2025 21:39

Yeah, sounds like a classic “pick me.” Usually they don’t get on with women because women find them fake and irritating.

wearyourpinkglove · 01/02/2025 21:38

itsnotalwaysthateasy · 01/02/2025 20:43

I'd much rather spend time with males than females. Females in my experience tend to lie. only look after themselves and have tried to drag me down. Men say it as they see it and never hold grudges. They tend to have a better sense of humour too.

They certainly do say it as they see it and I've noticed they are absolute bullies to one another and this is dressed up as "banter". Taking the piss out of one another for what they are wearing or not being able to drink enough, peer pressure to do things they don't want to do (particularly on stag dos). Both sexes can be horrible but they do it in different ways it's not a male or female thing.

SleepyHippy3 · 01/02/2025 21:38

spacepies · 01/02/2025 21:25

I think over the years i have to say some women have got worse.

In the same way some men have got worse especially with us reverting back to the Stone Age with the likes of Andrew Tate and his kind, influencing a whole generation of men to be misogynistic alpha males who want subservient and submissive trad wives.

Poppicorns · 01/02/2025 21:37

She's not very intelligent but is very mysoginist. Stay away from her.

IsItAllRubbish · 01/02/2025 21:37

Copernicus321 · 01/02/2025 21:14

I did a maths and computing degree which was a shared school with physics. Even in the 80's, there were several woman other than myself but obviously the majority of undergrads in the school were men so that set who I house shared with. I don't want to stereotype but physicists can be an odd bunch, they aren't all like Brian Cox unfortunately. I knew one that spent a summer looking at the lawn. I left him sitting on the carpet looking out of the window in July and returned in October and I swear he hadn't moved from that position.

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You mean thankfully they’re not all like Brian Cox, surely?!? Dull as dishwater!

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