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To think the young are less interested in sex, relationships and children

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Dappy777 · 01/02/2025 17:34

Is it just me or do young people seem less interested in relationships than we were? It isn't so much that the young aren't settling down, more that relationships no longer seem the focus point of their lives. Rather than seeing relationships as life's central joy, they're increasingly viewed as a danger – something that might bring you happiness, but probably won't, and could even ruin your life. There seems to be a similar view of children. The young also seem less interested in sex. Statistically (and how the hell they measure this I don't know) the young really are having less sex.

I might be talking complete nonsense, but if it's true, I wonder why. I guess internet porn would partly explain the loss of interest/desire in young men. Also, when society loosens up about sex, and we're saturated with sexual images, sex no longer feels sexy. As for the declining interest in relationships/family, I'm not so sure. I suppose fear about the future, especially climate change, could partly explain it (why bring a child into a dying world, that kind of thinking). Then I suppose the internet has lifted the lid on the reality of relationships and child-rearing – how difficult they can be, and how much of a toll they can take on your health.

Has anyone else noticed this? I know young people still form relationships, have sex, and raise children. I'm just talking about their general attitude to it all. They seem so much less enthusiastic, so much more reluctant and cynical. Sex and relationships and children are viewed more as 'problems' you need to cope with.

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grizabellacat · 01/02/2025 23:17

I don’t know if it’s true, but if it is then I fit in well with the youth of today!

researchers3 · 01/02/2025 23:16

I don't know tbh op but if that is true, then that is a very good thing as far as I'm concerned. Most of my life has revolved around men/relationships/breakups. There's far more to life!

PeloMom · 01/02/2025 23:15

There’s more to life than sex, kids, and often, relationships.

malificent7 · 01/02/2025 23:11

Well my 16 year old has bucked this trend by getting glamed up, going out, getting pissed to chase a boy she likes ( sadly). Luckily she also likes the gym but i hope she dosn't end up like me and stuck in a bad relationship in my teens. I'd also rather she ditched the drinks and vapes.

Whotenanny · 01/02/2025 23:05

My five year old really wants twins. Here's to hoping 🤞🤞🤞

Lovageandgeraniums · 01/02/2025 23:02

when it comes to children, there’s been a huge swing in recent decades towards parenthood as something all-encompassing which requires 100% focus on the children: and from the outside, that looks and sounds fucking exhausting

Yes, it's wonderful that the lid has been lifted on the reality of the long, often unrewarding slog that is motherhood and the humongous sacrifice and misery it brings to so many women.

It's the cultural setup, not necessarily the biology of it all. The nuclear family is absolutely unnatural for humans anyway. We need a new setup, but I don't know what that is.

SnowflakeSeason · 01/02/2025 22:42

yetanotherusername44 · 01/02/2025 19:36

Maybe you should try not assuming all boys are mosogynists and incels?

Why on Earth would you think I assume that 🤣

TheYearOfSmallThings · 01/02/2025 22:12

YABU. All the young people I know are interested in being in relationships and sex and fully plan to have families in the future.

Certainly they aren't getting married at 20 or having children in their early twenties, but that was already a thing of the past for anyone who went to uni when I was young (and I am 50 now).

CulturalNomad · 01/02/2025 22:04

when it comes to children, there’s been a huge swing in recent decades towards parenthood as something all-encompassing which requires 100% focus on the children: and from the outside, that looks and sounds fucking exhausting

Very true. My 29 year old son has zero interest in children and that holds true for the majority of his friends as well (male and female). They view parenthood as all sacrifice with little reward and can't envision putting their lives on hold (as they see it) for 18+ years.

While I do find that a little sad, it's more realistic than the romanticized version of motherhood that I grew up with. Women were supposed to effortlessly raise a family while simultaneously keeping their careers afloat and sustaining a happy marriage. If you weren't totally besotted by motherhood you kept it to yourself for fear of being judged as somehow lacking.

Gettingbysomehow · 01/02/2025 21:40

My DS and DiL 43 and 46 have been together for years and no interest in children at all.
They just want their home and a nice life.
I don't blame them. They have lots of pets.
I'm not bothered about grandchildren so why not?
They think life is tough even without children in the mix.

Orangeandgold · 01/02/2025 21:11

I think it’s great. I wasn’t into sex, relationships etc until I was in my 20s - but from the age of 14 I felt the pressure to have a boyfriend, loose my virginity and know the names of my future children. So I love that there is less pressure to conform and “be married by 25”

But I think it’s sad when you get to your 30s and crave a family but the reason why you haven’t been able to find anyone is because society seems to have become extreme. Social media has put us in micro bubbles - and some of the mindsets people develop sound crazy. It has become harder to meet people. There are way more negative stories. Poor dating experiences.

LaPalmaLlama · 01/02/2025 20:49

I Imagine people living at home for much longer also has quite a lot to do with it. Whilst most parents are happy for adult children to bring established gf/bf to stay overnight, I doubt any but the most liberal would welcome a revolving cast of tinder trash. If I’d lived with my parents in my misspent twenties I’d have had a LOT less sex.

MissHollyGolightly · 01/02/2025 20:43

Everythingisnumbersnow · 01/02/2025 19:43

So they should have kids they don't want?

Yes, for the greater good. If everyone behaves selfishly there isn’t one!! I’m a classic individualist but that is the argument.

Butchyrestingface · 01/02/2025 20:03

Yes, I think this nails it. When I was young, there was a widespread belief that to be single and childless was to be a failure. A single, childless man was ‘sinister’ or ‘weird’, and a single, childless woman was pitied.

Speaking as a single, childless 40 something, I'm not convinced that attitude is dying out. Or if it is, not fast enough.

WaryCrow · 01/02/2025 20:00

NowThatYouSayIt · 01/02/2025 18:49

I’m interested in who you think told young men this? Was it the same force that told young women that if they wore a short skirt they were inviting rape?

Yes, it’s always amazing how disadvantaged the poor boys are by women and girls, when around the world it is routinely men who are in charge and women who are subject to male violence, starting with so many being killed as babies for being female.

Butchyrestingface · 01/02/2025 19:56

Rather than seeing relationships as life's central joy, they're increasingly viewed as a danger – something that might bring you happiness, but probably won't, and could even ruin your life.

They're probably been on MN, reading AIBU.

Mrsdyna · 01/02/2025 19:55

Editing because my comment posted twice.

Mrsdyna · 01/02/2025 19:55

They seem a lot less mature than me and my friends were at that age. Very much still clinging to their parents. I'm not saying it's bad, it's just a surprising and noticeable difference.

N4ish · 01/02/2025 19:44

I think there’s a growing gap between the sexes and younger women aren’t prepared to put up with nasty, immature men. Also the kind of sex many boys and men are now conditioned to want is rarely pleasurable or satisfying for women so I’m not surprised they’re opting out.

Sarah2891 · 01/02/2025 19:43

I'm glad if girls feel they have more choice now and don't feel that they have to marry and have kids. There's more to life.

Everythingisnumbersnow · 01/02/2025 19:43

MissHollyGolightly · 01/02/2025 19:34

Yeah but if the young don’t have kids then we just worsen the demographic trends and bankrupt social safety nets and eventually the whole human race dies out.

So they should have kids they don't want?

yetanotherusername44 · 01/02/2025 19:36

SnowflakeSeason · 01/02/2025 19:25

Maybe they should try not being misogynists and incels?

Maybe you should try not assuming all boys are mosogynists and incels?

MissHollyGolightly · 01/02/2025 19:34

Yeah but if the young don’t have kids then we just worsen the demographic trends and bankrupt social safety nets and eventually the whole human race dies out.

Dappy777 · 01/02/2025 19:31

Plaided · 01/02/2025 18:41

It’s great isn’t it!! People can now choose what they want, not get tied down with shit partners because it’s expected, have children they don’t want just because it used to be the norm. They can be happy within themselves and not need validation from someone else. How exciting for them.

Yes, I think this nails it. When I was young, there was a widespread belief that to be single and childless was to be a failure. A single, childless man was ‘sinister’ or ‘weird’, and a single, childless woman was pitied. (OK, bit of an exaggeration, but not much.) I remember hearing my dad’s friend describe his 28-year-old daughter as “left on the shelf.” Left on the shelf, at 28!! And I remember a woman in my road, who was married to an utterly vile little man, pitying her sister because she couldn’t find someone. Even as a kid I remember thinking “she probably pities you.”

Such views are dying out. People increasingly see celibacy and childlessness not as something forced on you but something you’ve chosen. I often wonder what will happen if we really do find ways of extending the lifespan. If the wizards in Silicon Valley invent pills and nanobots and god knows what to slow or reverse ageing (as some predict), it will be interesting to see how people react.

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Whoknew24 · 01/02/2025 19:26

I think the traditional set up doesn’t appeal to younger women. I really don’t blame them, most husbands end up being an additional child/chore. Women carry everything, full time job, running entire house, having to carry the full load with children.

I would rather see my girls live a life which makes them happy, I hope they travel and do everything on their own terms.

I don’t know anyone at all worried about climate change, they seem worried about this country, it’s failing and no one in government seems to want to get the UK back to where it was unfortunately.

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