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To call in sick after this happened

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cherryblossom83 · 01/02/2025 12:09

I have worked in the same company for almost 20 years. I love my job. Due to the nature of my job it can be difficult to get time off at certain times as any shifts swapped have to be done ourselves. I accept this and have missed out on family events over the years.
I rarely take a sick day I've had one sick day in 5 years.
I've now had a bereavement and because it is not a direct relative of mine but someone I knew extremely well the company will not authorise me the day off to attend the funeral. The problem I have is because it's a training course hence why I cannot swap with one of my colleagues despite the course taking place frequently and I have offered to attend the course on my days off they will not accommodate me due to the course being at maximum numbers. I don't have access to see who is on the course on other days.
Aibu to just call in sick at this point as they will have to find me a place on the course at a later date or would you basically just keep saying what I have already said that I need to be there.

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Reallyyyyyy · 03/02/2025 13:04

I would speak to your manager. Remind them of your loyalty and if they aren't able to accommodate then you might start looking elsewhere for employment. Do you think that would change their viewpoint? Or are they a company who are happy to replace people?

Kitten1982 · 03/02/2025 13:02

Call in sick under the guise of mental health due to the impact of the bereavement upon you. If you need to, make sure your doctor knows you’re feeling depressed, so you have back up, should you need it

Treesandsheepeverywhere · 03/02/2025 12:21

Ger1atricMillennial · 03/02/2025 05:38

You can self-certify for up to 7 days, so no NHS resources needed.

I know that. There were posts saying to get signed off for 2 weeks as it's harder to argue with a doctor's note.

GoldOP · 03/02/2025 12:09

This kind of scenario would be typical of where I work too, there’s so many people who take the piss yet they don’t value the long term staff who rarely go off sick or cause any issues.
You Can’t go off sick with something like flu or noro in case you are seen out and about however taking a few days off due to bereavement is acceptable in my opinion if it was someone close/special to you. It is so frustrating that your employer could authorise this and just lose you for one day but their actions mean in future you won’t even bother asking for the time off and take the easier option!

Flavourful · 03/02/2025 08:10

This really annoys me, take sick a week prior and stay off if you will get sick pay. Let them sort it out, try and come up with something that wouldn’t allow you to get to work so if you have to drive say something that you can’t drive, as long as no one could collect you. You could then still go funeral as someone kindly helped you.
companies annoy me today as there’s no give and take

Ger1atricMillennial · 03/02/2025 05:38

Treesandsheepeverywhere · 02/02/2025 21:51

Absolutely! The ease at which people churn out "get signed off" is embarrassing.

OP doesn't sound like someone who'd do this as she wouldn't need to ask and just do it.

As the sensible have said OP, there are ways to get your day off without lying and using up NHS resources unnecessarily.

Sorry for your loss and hope you manage to go and keep your job.

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You can self-certify for up to 7 days, so no NHS resources needed.

Ger1atricMillennial · 03/02/2025 05:36

Oh OP what a conundrum. This is just extra unnecessary stress.

I can't believe they can't manage a day, especially with warning, what would happen if you were in a car accident?

You have several great options. My preference is honest and immovable, as being a trusted employee is important, however if it was me I would be sick for the day before, the day of and the day after. Even though this is a training course, things happen and they can always be rebooked.

I also echo the sentiment of looking for another place to work.

saffronspices · 03/02/2025 04:24

Do you know anyone else who has had the same issue in the past getting time off for a funeral who is not a close relative? Are they following a strict pattern?

budlea64 · 03/02/2025 01:42

I just wouldn't work for a company or organisation that would do this.

shehasglasses48 · 02/02/2025 22:17

Sorry your firm is so lacking in understanding but could you explain the situation and offer to take it as annual leave xx

Treesandsheepeverywhere · 02/02/2025 21:51

Sidebeforeself · 01/02/2025 13:15

Can’t believe posters are saying get signed off sick! No wonder people can’t get GP appointments and the Uk is seen as workshy . As others have suggested there’s a way around this without clogging up the NHS .

Absolutely! The ease at which people churn out "get signed off" is embarrassing.

OP doesn't sound like someone who'd do this as she wouldn't need to ask and just do it.

As the sensible have said OP, there are ways to get your day off without lying and using up NHS resources unnecessarily.

Sorry for your loss and hope you manage to go and keep your job.

TwinklySquid · 02/02/2025 21:33

I’d go. Tell them you are taking the death hard and need a few days to get over it.

MyProudHare · 02/02/2025 20:55

Who won't authorise you, OP? Your manager? Can you appeal to anyone higher up? What about HR - have you got an HR dept there?

I'd be considering raising a grievance, personally. This is a really bad way to treat a loyal employee.

Missj25 · 02/02/2025 20:24

I’d say what Carlilove35 advised you to say ..

Sorry for your loss x

canyouseemyhousefromhere · 02/02/2025 19:30

I’m sorry for your loss OP. What an awful way to treat a loyal employee.

You can’t just take the day sick, it would have to be a couple of days before and after too as it would be very obvious that you were lying. I think it would also look a bit suspicious if you took any time tbh.

I would probably say that I was taking the day as unpaid leave and will do the training as soon as they can arrange it.

Look for another job with a more reasonable employer.

llizzie · 02/02/2025 18:54

cherryblossom83 · 01/02/2025 12:09

I have worked in the same company for almost 20 years. I love my job. Due to the nature of my job it can be difficult to get time off at certain times as any shifts swapped have to be done ourselves. I accept this and have missed out on family events over the years.
I rarely take a sick day I've had one sick day in 5 years.
I've now had a bereavement and because it is not a direct relative of mine but someone I knew extremely well the company will not authorise me the day off to attend the funeral. The problem I have is because it's a training course hence why I cannot swap with one of my colleagues despite the course taking place frequently and I have offered to attend the course on my days off they will not accommodate me due to the course being at maximum numbers. I don't have access to see who is on the course on other days.
Aibu to just call in sick at this point as they will have to find me a place on the course at a later date or would you basically just keep saying what I have already said that I need to be there.

No. It is risking your job and the rest of your life, because they will not give you a reference and any new employer will think you were in the habit of doing this.

If you had asked for the time off because a dear close friend had died and you wanted to pay your respects and mourn, they might have given you the time gladly. Too many people think that the term 'relative' means anyone in the family tree, and that makes employers cautious.

grace2025 · 02/02/2025 10:01

Yes that's right you self certify for first week, as self limiting illnesses often resolve in that time it's only after that you need a sick note.

JMSA · 02/02/2025 09:00

nomorechoco · 02/02/2025 08:54

I totally agree that your employer is in the wrong on this but I'm quite shocked by the number of people that are saying that your GP should just sign you off. GPs shouldn't be asked or expected to sign people off who are not sick! Their job is to attend to ill people not get people out of tricky situations at work.

Agreed.

JMSA · 02/02/2025 08:58

I'm really sorry for your loss. I am always 🙄 at 'time off at the drop of a hat' posts, but this is absolutely not the case here!
It's really bad that they denied your request Sad
I wish you had decided to call in sick in the first place, but presumably you didn't see this coming?
Flowers

nomorechoco · 02/02/2025 08:54

I totally agree that your employer is in the wrong on this but I'm quite shocked by the number of people that are saying that your GP should just sign you off. GPs shouldn't be asked or expected to sign people off who are not sick! Their job is to attend to ill people not get people out of tricky situations at work.

RatedDoingMagic · 02/02/2025 08:16

ClearHoldBuild · 02/02/2025 07:49

All those advocating a sick note, you do realise that GPs are stretched enough with time wasters without adding to their workload and potentially depriving someone else of an appointment that is actually needed.

Not even this. A GP will not provide a sick note until after you have self-certified for 5 days and need a note to cover you for more than a week off. Sick notes cannot be used for a single day.

maddening · 02/02/2025 08:14

CarliLove35 · 01/02/2025 12:33

I wouldn't go off sick. I would tell your line manager that you are attending the funeral and it's non-negotiable. You will take the day as annual leave or unpaid leave, but you are going. This is a close personal friend and you need to pay your respects and say your goodbyes respectfully.

Condolences on your loss.

And if they cause a fuss.i would be looking at a new job!

Wavescrashingonthebeach · 02/02/2025 08:12

Don't call in sick. As pp said, tell them you are attending the funeral and non negotiable. If poss as annual leave. If they choose to put as un auth absence that's upto them.

SparklesGlitter · 02/02/2025 08:10

Don’t go off sick. You could be done for misconduct. Say how important this person was in your life and you need to say goodbye and get that bit of closure. You’ll take it as unpaid, and make the time up. Or you’ll duck out for the funeral if not to far away, and then be back after

Humphhhh · 02/02/2025 08:09

Do you work in the NHS?