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Would you hire a morbidly obese Nanny?

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whompingwillo · 01/02/2025 11:50

I would like to hire someone we’ve met for my 9 month old baby. She’s fab, great with kids, lovely, I have no concerns.

I would estimate her BMI is 50-60 and my husband noticed that it is a struggle for her to get up and down off the floor and he is worried that if baby was in danger she may struggle.

So what would you do? Do you think that weight could impact a job like this? I’m sure people of this weight have their own children and are safe to look after them?

YABU - morbid obesity could impact her ability to do this job

YANBU - she’ll be fine

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Itssofunny · 09/02/2025 19:34

chargeitup · 09/02/2025 18:49

You don't. If you eat less that you use you will lose weight.

The problem is not singular.

People do not all burn the same amount of calories in their resting state. Studies have been performed where a small group of people had to consume less than 600 calories a day before they lost weight.
This is extremely difficult to do without medical intervention. I would go as far as to say it is impossible to eat less that 600 calories a day for almost everyone. The control, planning and will power would be beyond most people.
There are millions of people for whom that threshold will be 800 or 900 or whatever. But not 1600-1800 or whatever it is that healthy slim people without this disadvantage eat.

Secondly the hormone that signal you have had enough does not function properly in many obese people. So they are constantly craving food. This is not some small thing. Overriding a body that genuinely doesn't register as being full is extraordinarily difficult. For people with a normal hormonal response to reaching fullness to suggest it's down to willpower is akin to being ablist towards the disabled.

So yes. If you consume less than you use you will lose weight. But it's not as straightforward as that in a practical sense

I recommend the book 'the obesity code' by doctor Jason Fung. It explainswhy some people's metabolisms are lower or their satiety signals aren't working properly, then explains how to fix it. Everything is backed up by research, so you can fact-check everything.

chargeitup · 09/02/2025 18:49

Errors · 06/02/2025 19:53

Unless I am completely dense, I just don’t see how it is physically possible for someone to consume fewer calories than they burn each day and become obese. I can absolutely understand that some people lose weight quicker than others due to metabolic rates but how is it scientifically possible to gain weight or even remain at a very high weight if you eat fewer calories than you burn?

You don't. If you eat less that you use you will lose weight.

The problem is not singular.

People do not all burn the same amount of calories in their resting state. Studies have been performed where a small group of people had to consume less than 600 calories a day before they lost weight.
This is extremely difficult to do without medical intervention. I would go as far as to say it is impossible to eat less that 600 calories a day for almost everyone. The control, planning and will power would be beyond most people.
There are millions of people for whom that threshold will be 800 or 900 or whatever. But not 1600-1800 or whatever it is that healthy slim people without this disadvantage eat.

Secondly the hormone that signal you have had enough does not function properly in many obese people. So they are constantly craving food. This is not some small thing. Overriding a body that genuinely doesn't register as being full is extraordinarily difficult. For people with a normal hormonal response to reaching fullness to suggest it's down to willpower is akin to being ablist towards the disabled.

So yes. If you consume less than you use you will lose weight. But it's not as straightforward as that in a practical sense

NonplasticBertrand · 09/02/2025 10:36

LadyTangerine · 04/02/2025 19:55

"Ozempic works by mimicking a naturally occurring hormone. As those hormone levels rise, the molecules go to your brain, telling it you're full. It also slows digestion by increasing the time it takes for food to leave the body. This is similar to the effect of bariatrics surgery"

So whatever the mechanism, it stops you eating so much. Not judging at all but it is a fact that the less you consume the less you will weigh.

You are dodging my point that this does not come down to moral fibre. You are very invested in 'Lady Tangerine can do it because she is motivated and clever and if morbidly obese people behaved like me they would be thin too. For my experience must be true for everyone else, and there is no complexity my truth does not answer'.

Errors · 07/02/2025 11:16

SquashedSquid · 07/02/2025 09:23

Lipoedema, Bile Acid Malabsorbtion, thyroid disease, various medications, hormonal imbalance, metabolic issues, and many more.

Do these conditions cause a person to gain weight in of themselves or do they make it harder to lose weight?
For example, if a person with any one of those medical conditions fasted for a very long time and also exercised, would they still gain weight?

LadyTangerine · 07/02/2025 09:36

'I completely agree that different people have different hormonal levels, insulin resistance, metabolic rates etc, all of which impact weight.However, if a person fasts for a week, they're going to lose weight. It's impossible to eat nothing and yet not lose weight.'

Yes, some meds of course alter hormones etc so you may have to reduce what you have previously consumed the fact os if you aren't getting excess calories you aren't going to put on weight.

We could say peri and menopause 'causes weight gain'. However what actually happens is metabolic rates alter so we can't consume what we have previously and remain the same weight.

SquashedSquid · 07/02/2025 09:23

Errors · 07/02/2025 08:58

What would cause someone to gain weight if they weren’t taking in additional calories?

Lipoedema, Bile Acid Malabsorbtion, thyroid disease, various medications, hormonal imbalance, metabolic issues, and many more.

Itssofunny · 07/02/2025 09:12

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I completely agree that different people have different hormonal levels, insulin resistance, metabolic rates etc, all of which impact weight.

However, if a person fasts for a week, they're going to lose weight. It's impossible to eat nothing and yet not lose weight.

Sure, some people are genetically luckier than others and can eat anything and stay thin, while others put on weight very easily. But there is very clearly something in our modern lifestyle that is leading us to put on weight. Otherwise how do you explain the massive rise in obesity rates compared to 50 years ago?

Perhaps if we started eating more like people did back then (less processed food, less sugar, less eating out, fewer snacks) we'd be better off.

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What would cause someone to gain weight if they weren’t taking in additional calories?

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Errors · 06/02/2025 19:53

Unless I am completely dense, I just don’t see how it is physically possible for someone to consume fewer calories than they burn each day and become obese. I can absolutely understand that some people lose weight quicker than others due to metabolic rates but how is it scientifically possible to gain weight or even remain at a very high weight if you eat fewer calories than you burn?

ChishiyaBat · 06/02/2025 19:29

LadyTangerine · 06/02/2025 19:18

No obviously not, I'm again just stating facts. Tube feeds are strictly calculated by dieticians, if a patient is morbidly obese they are getting the wrong amount. Someone is making a mistake somewhere.

I'm neither judgemental rude or nasty, you know that.

Or it could be that obesity is caused by more than just the amount of food or in this case tube feeds. Rude no, but you are quite judgemental and whether you mean it or not it does come across as nasty.

LadyTangerine · 06/02/2025 19:18

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No obviously not, I'm again just stating facts. Tube feeds are strictly calculated by dieticians, if a patient is morbidly obese they are getting the wrong amount. Someone is making a mistake somewhere.

I'm neither judgemental rude or nasty, you know that.

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LadyTangerine · 06/02/2025 19:07

ChishiyaBat · 06/02/2025 12:56

I bet she is great fun&very beautiful though!

She is very beautiful yes just very naughty too Grin.

LadyTangerine · 06/02/2025 19:05

'Apparently they're all hell bent on how "eat less, move more" is the answer and they've solved obesity for all of human kind. Only I don't eat, and I move quite a lot, so...'

We've discussed this earlier, as you are tube fed your dietician is being negligent if you are morbidly obese. Feeds are strictly calculated fo balance calories in and energy used. You said you don't want unsolicited advice but someone needs to tell your dietician they are being incompetent. Best wishes.

I think it is great that you have a high energy dog who gets walked miles every day, fresh air is good for us all.

ChishiyaBat · 06/02/2025 15:39

SquashedSquid · 06/02/2025 15:28

No, exactly. Apparently they're all hell bent on how "eat less, move more" is the answer and they've solved obesity for all of human kind. Only I don't eat, and I move quite a lot, so...

Good luck in your new role!

I'm glad I didn't see what that person above said, as it was probably upsetting, but if it was a suggestion that a disabled or obese person shouldn't have working breed dogs, then that just goes to show how uneducated they are.

I know, we just need to not be lazy and greedy. It is so tiresome! If only it was that easy huh.

Thank you, it's somethibg I haven't done before and i'm looking forward to it.

No it wasn't that it was just rude and sounded accusatory.

SquashedSquid · 06/02/2025 15:28

SunshineOnASnowyDay · 06/02/2025 15:10

I didn’t say she couldn’t take her dogs out for Christ sake and you know it!!!! She tried to suggest she as an obese person still takes her ‘high energy, working-breed dogs’ out for a long walk!!!

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Well, I didn't though, seeing as I can't walk 👍

SquashedSquid · 06/02/2025 15:28

ChishiyaBat · 06/02/2025 13:55

It doesn't matter what we say squid, we will never be believed.
As a side note I have a new job role starting on Monday, my work times have changed, so I will be walking the 2.5 miles(uphill too) to work every day as well as my normal steps, so it will be interesting to see whether my weight will drop or not, i'm going to say not.

No, exactly. Apparently they're all hell bent on how "eat less, move more" is the answer and they've solved obesity for all of human kind. Only I don't eat, and I move quite a lot, so...

Good luck in your new role!

I'm glad I didn't see what that person above said, as it was probably upsetting, but if it was a suggestion that a disabled or obese person shouldn't have working breed dogs, then that just goes to show how uneducated they are.

SunshineOnASnowyDay · 06/02/2025 15:15

ChishiyaBat · 06/02/2025 15:14

It was still horrible! It came across as accusatory and sarcastic as hell!

Well I didn’t mean it as such and apologise if it came across that way!

ChishiyaBat · 06/02/2025 15:14

SunshineOnASnowyDay · 06/02/2025 15:10

I didn’t say she couldn’t take her dogs out for Christ sake and you know it!!!! She tried to suggest she as an obese person still takes her ‘high energy, working-breed dogs’ out for a long walk!!!

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It was still horrible! It came across as accusatory and sarcastic as hell!

SunshineOnASnowyDay · 06/02/2025 15:10

ChishiyaBat · 06/02/2025 14:33

Wow what a horrible comment!
So what if she doesn't walk, she can still take her dogs out in her wheelchair! Or you know have someone else walk them.

I didn’t say she couldn’t take her dogs out for Christ sake and you know it!!!! She tried to suggest she as an obese person still takes her ‘high energy, working-breed dogs’ out for a long walk!!!

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Wow what a horrible comment!
So what if she doesn't walk, she can still take her dogs out in her wheelchair! Or you know have someone else walk them.

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ChishiyaBat · 06/02/2025 13:55

SquashedSquid · 06/02/2025 12:46

Ah, I'll tell my large, high energy, working-breed dogs that I'm owning dogs wrong, then.

It doesn't matter what we say squid, we will never be believed.
As a side note I have a new job role starting on Monday, my work times have changed, so I will be walking the 2.5 miles(uphill too) to work every day as well as my normal steps, so it will be interesting to see whether my weight will drop or not, i'm going to say not.

ChishiyaBat · 06/02/2025 12:56

LadyTangerine · 06/02/2025 12:46

I have a very excitable lab, she is lovely but a handful 😬

I bet she is great fun&very beautiful though!