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What would you do in my situation?

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Alwaybkind · 01/02/2025 09:39

My brother left rehab yesterday as he wasn’t able to sleep for 7 days he finally cracked and left after being there for over two months. He has lost his place at the rehab now. I went and found him and now he is in an Airbnb 5 minutes from me an hour away from our hometown where he usually lives. Mum is staying with him too to keep an eye on him.

Im willing to commit and allow him to move in with him whilst we get him back on his feet. DH thinks I’m wasting my time. Our life is stressful as it work and kids. But I don’t feel like I can just abandon him.

But I think if we both pull together and support him we could do it.

Am I being completely bonkers? I’m willing to give him one chance.

OP posts:
Alongleadtimeplease · 01/02/2025 13:35

Puzzledandpissedoff · 01/02/2025 13:23

I would support him to find a charity or an outreach centre or some here where he can seek further treatment

This would be my own approach, @Alongleadtimeplease, but the key point is that he has to want it himself, and that if he doesn't no amount of input is going to make a difference

Especially not moving him into OP's home, which would simply offer an opportunity to hide the issues - to say nothing of the risks to the family

Totally agree that the will to recover has to come from the addict themselves.

But op was asking what we would do in her shoes and that would be my personal strategy.

I also strongly recommended that the op should not let him in to her home as follows:

“So in your shoes, definitely don’t let him lose the place he has now. Support him there”

so not quite sure why you are querying that?

I think op feels like she needs and wants to do something to help. And support her mother in helping too, which is why I answered as I did.

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Alongleadtimeplease · 01/02/2025 13:27

Locutus2000 · 01/02/2025 13:18

From what I have read, most addicts take two or three attempts to get clean?

Most addicts never get clean.

Sorry, yes, to be clear, I meant the percentage of those who do get clean, take several
attempts.

I agree it should be emphasised that only 20% or so recover completely. That link is very useful.

Sidebeforeself · 01/02/2025 13:26

If it’s that easy OP everyone would do it and there’d be no rehab! Please put your kids first. Part of the recovery process means addicts need to realise it’s ultimately down to them and nobody can rescue them

Puzzledandpissedoff · 01/02/2025 13:23

I would support him to find a charity or an outreach centre or some here where he can seek further treatment

This would be my own approach, @Alongleadtimeplease, but the key point is that he has to want it himself, and that if he doesn't no amount of input is going to make a difference

Especially not moving him into OP's home, which would simply offer an opportunity to hide the issues - to say nothing of the risks to the family

Katyrosebug · 01/02/2025 13:20

My brother went into rehab 1st feb last year, self funded, he was there for 1 month for substance abuse. He did the full month but ti be honest should have done longer, you can be with him and keep an eye on him all he wants, it's now down to him. My brother unfortunately hasn't cut the friends out that he needs to and does fall off the wagon, then get pissed off at himself get depressed for a few weeks ans then gets back to normal, rinse ans repeat etc..
Your brother having been in for 2 months should now have the tools to help himself, he should also have started to make a plan about what he was going to do after rehab etc.. sorry this isn't much help, I've been there though so can sympathise

Alongleadtimeplease · 01/02/2025 13:16

Op, I think you are very caring of your brother to offer that, but why do you think you can succeed where the professionals have failed?

The line about not being able to sleep? Do you believe it? Rehab can’t be an easy place at all but did he have access to ear phones or ear plugs? He must have slept at some point? Did he crack from lack of sleep or did he use again?

From what I have read, most addicts take two or three attempts to get clean? So in your shoes, definitely don’t let him lose the place he has now. Support him there. I would support him to find a charity or an outreach centre or some here where he can seek further treatment. And then visit often to provide moral support and maybe some freshly cooked meals? Don’t involve your dc.

midnightblackcat · 01/02/2025 13:14

Locutus2000 · 01/02/2025 13:12

That's unnecessarily flippant.

I take it you have never been in a psych/rehab unit? It doesn't sound like he was in the Priory.

Actually no, I didn’t mean it flippantly. The poster I quoted said rehabs can be noisy and that in the OP’s shoes they would move said addict into their home. I was trying to point out that there may be other solutions available that don’t involve the addict leaving rehab.

Locutus2000 · 01/02/2025 13:12

midnightblackcat · 01/02/2025 12:53

Well, maybe he needs some earplugs then.

That's unnecessarily flippant.

I take it you have never been in a psych/rehab unit? It doesn't sound like he was in the Priory.

HaroldLeftEye · 01/02/2025 13:11

If you always do what you always did, you'll always get what you always got.

He had a funded rehab place. He was on someone's radar - who was it, his GP? Clearly he's lying about the sleeping pills so he wasn't ready. What's changed?

FootstepAway · 01/02/2025 13:11

Silvers11 · 01/02/2025 12:59

How to say you haven't read the OP's posts without saying you haven't 🙄

He walked out of rehab and lost his place there

I did read the posts but I had not understood that walking out of one rehab place means you cannot go to any rehab again.

Locutus2000 · 01/02/2025 13:09

Travail · 01/02/2025 12:11

I work in addiction.

I'm addicted to nicotine myself.

I understand addiction.

The sleeping pills is just an excuse to leave. He doesn't want to be there. The addiction is currently where he feels comfortable.

You cannot cure him.

Addiction is complex. It may start for a million reasons.

But once it's ingrained there's only one real reason to get out.

And that's because the addict realises that the life they're living is not as good as the life they could be living.

That's the only thing that stops ingrained addiction. And it has to come from the addict.

And, ultimately attempts to 'save' by family members often entrench addiction because there's shame and obligation and dynamics attached. Which, when failure and judgement are attached can send an addict into a spiral of use.

So when I say walk away with compassion and kindness @Alwaybkind, that actually is the best thing you can do for him. Really.

And, ultimately attempts to 'save' by family members often entrench addiction because there's shame and obligation and dynamics attached. Which, when failure and judgement are attached can send an addict into a spiral of use.

Former addict here. Amazing family who have always done everything possible to support me, including taking me back in their house and helping with drug debts.

The best thing they ever did was finally kick me out and stop giving me money. It allowed me to get a stable HA property and finally sort my life out, including the ASD diagnosis which changed my life and allowed me to put the drugs down permanently once I finally understood what was 'wrong' with me all those years and why I had sought oblivion to cope.

user1492757084 · 01/02/2025 13:02

I would take my brother to appointments and help him get scripts for medication etc. but I would never have him live in the same house as my children.
Can he live with your parents?

longerdaysinspring · 01/02/2025 13:01

Social services almost certainly won’t be interested. They often are too overstretched to notice even when there is an urgent need (see Sara sharif; the boys who died in the fire.)

Silvers11 · 01/02/2025 12:59

FootstepAway · 01/02/2025 11:01

Trying rehab with the correct medication seems the obvious next step, rather than trying to handle it yourself with no training, and kids in the picture.

Can I ask why you're not considering giving him a chance with that?

How to say you haven't read the OP's posts without saying you haven't 🙄

He walked out of rehab and lost his place there

Puzzledandpissedoff · 01/02/2025 12:56

Im sure im completely mad but cant help but want to try

There's no reason why you can't try to help him, OP, but just not in your home where the priority must surely be your DH and DCs

Remember, too, that you only have the addict's word for why he left rehab, which might have a bearing on whether he'll engage with any other help he's offered

Fencehedge · 01/02/2025 12:55

MandUs · 01/02/2025 12:52

Be prepared for social services to step in and for your children to go on the child protection register if they are living with an addict. If you’re husband was the addict, social services would expect you to leave him or you would lose your children so I could imagine that your husband might be required to move out with your kids if you move your brother in.

I’m surprised that nobody has picked up on this problem yet.

This is a very important point, yes

midnightblackcat · 01/02/2025 12:53

XiCi · 01/02/2025 11:43

I've spoken to a few people that have been to rehab and they all speak about this, about how noisy it is, patients screaming and shouting 24/7 and just not being able to get any rest. I think people have this idea that it's a bit like going to a spa and it's actually pretty horrendous

I'd do pretty much anything to help my brother and would take him in under these circumstances on the proviso he would be out at the first sign of a relapse because of the children

Well, maybe he needs some earplugs then.

MandUs · 01/02/2025 12:52

Be prepared for social services to step in and for your children to go on the child protection register if they are living with an addict. If you’re husband was the addict, social services would expect you to leave him or you would lose your children so I could imagine that your husband might be required to move out with your kids if you move your brother in.

I’m surprised that nobody has picked up on this problem yet.

midnightblackcat · 01/02/2025 12:51

IamGrout · 01/02/2025 12:32

Suddenly leaving rehab without support and nowhere to go shows that he cannot be trusted to make good decisions. You cannot have someone unstable like that living in your home with your 2 children. They should be your priority. He needs to go back to his GP and perhaps social services for help.

This. OP, you CANNOT ‘get him back on his feet’ I’m afraid, however much you wish you could.

T1Dmama · 01/02/2025 12:49

And sorry @jafbsd you had to go through that

T1Dmama · 01/02/2025 12:49

jafbsd · 01/02/2025 12:31

I took a family member in, Heroin addict, Difference is I'm single and have no kids and I would never do it again.

I found that every word out of his mouth was a lie, He would manipulate me into getting money, He would tell me he was buying food then would sneak off and buy his drugs then come back off his face. He promised over and over that he would change.

I then came home to find my tv was gone and also my laptop. He stole them to trade in for drugs. Of course he was sorry after the fact and was now getting clean.

He let me set up appointments here there and everywhere and would show up slurring his words and off his face, making me look like a complete idiot. got him on methadone and he started selling it for heroin, I then found out he was getting a friend to pee into a bottle for him so it looked like he was clean so I threw him out. the more i did for him the worse it got..

Two days later I had his dealers at my house demanding the money he owed them.

Three years later he is still on heroin, is on the verge of becoming homeless because he doesn't pay his bills and has been arrested and bailed, he showed up to court off his face.

He has sold everything he owned even down to his kettle, has no way to cook, owns thousands in unpaid bills, not paid his council tax for over a year and his flat now looks like a squat, needles all over the place/outside/at the back of his flat.

You can't fix him, you can't make this better, you can't do this to your family. i know how hard it is to say no and seemingly sit back and let it all happen. they only get help when the time is right for THEM. nothing you say or do will change him or the situation.

This @Alwaybkind is my experience having worked with addicts!….
You can advise and offer support, but your brother needs to be referred to homeless services. They will help him if and when he excepts help!

UnderTheStairs51 · 01/02/2025 12:48

Housing him may cause greater problems in the long run.

Once there is a place he can live, any priority status he might currently have will be removed.

Unkind as it sounds, you are not necessarily doing him a favour by trying to help..

Fencehedge · 01/02/2025 12:46

WhenTheyComeForYou · 01/02/2025 11:51

Honestly I don’t know because I’ve never been in that position.

It’s very easy for posters to sit in their warm home, drinking a cup of tea, to suggest abandoning your brother until he reaches rock bottom. But they don’t know or love him. You’re his sister.

Could you ring the rehab and ask for some advice?

Because many of us have had addicts in our lives and had to make the same or similar decisions.

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