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DH and best friend messaging

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flowersintheattic2 · 01/02/2025 09:10

In a nutshell - 'D'H talks with a mutual friend of ours (I met her originally and would consider her one of my closest friends). H is really struggling with his mental health at the moment, currently being seen by a psychiatrist for suspected bipolar - hyper-sexuality is a feature. Friend works in mental health field. I know they talk - no problem. In many ways they are similar. Our marriage is struggling at the moment following a ONS last year. We are working through this, rebuilding trust. No excuses - I snooped in his phone and read the conversation between H and friend. Most of it is general chit chat but my H will frequently write hyper-sexualised comments. I have spoken to him before about this, spoken about the inappropriateness of this. Friend responds with either shock or laughing emoji but doesn't respond back otherwise. H realised I snooped and now he refuses to talk with me. I feel betrayed by both parties tbh. I have spoken with my friend about it asking her opinion and she has been supportive, but shared that snooping was an invasion of his privacy. I am seeing my friend today and staying overnight. Meanwhile my relationship with my H is in tatters. Opinions and thoughts welcome.

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User67556 · 01/02/2025 10:10

flowersintheattic2 · 01/02/2025 10:04

I would say it's all the time.

Honestly fuck this - kick him out. What an absolute twat. I've known and worked with a few people with bi.polar and they were lovely. The mental health issues are a red herring here - he is a seedy creep who has cheated on you once already. Get rid.

sandrapinchedmysandwich · 01/02/2025 10:09

MarzipanAndFrenchFancies · 01/02/2025 09:29

It feels like your friend isn't a friend and has over stepped boundaries.

I work in a 'profession' and I wouldn't use my professional knowledge to advise or advocate for friends, because I don't have those systems and processes at home, which would make my advice safe.

Likewise your 'friend' is being incredibly unboundaried by supporting your husband and conflating her personal and professional life

It might be acceptable for a Mental Health Professional to overlook sexualised comments, (I genuinely dont know) but, it is definately not OK for your friend to do this.

Do you have other friends or family you can speak too? They might have tgr measure of both your husband and friend.

Edited

This. Your friend sounds like she is enjoying the attention under the guise of helping. She clearly isn't helping though and she knows this is affecting your relationship. She says you shouldn't have snooped but hasnt admonished him for what he is saying to her. She is no friend op

Hellohelga · 01/02/2025 10:08

Dump them both. He’s a cheat. She’s no friend of yours.

converseandjeans · 01/02/2025 10:07

I think he is using or exaggerating his MH issues to keep you in line. Your friend & DH are having regular chats with him sending sexual comments & she hasn't discouraged it has she?

I don’t think I would want ti be friends with her tbh.

Gymmum82 · 01/02/2025 10:07

Being a support to your husband I would say is pushing it but ok. Not shutting down any sexual comments is absolutely not.
She is not being a friend to you. Your husband is a cheat and is actively looking to cheat again and she is acting like she’s open to it. I would be getting rid of the pair of them

BleachedJumper · 01/02/2025 10:07

Am I correct in reading that you are actually going to see this particular ‘friend’ today @flowersintheattic2?

Why?

pinkdelight · 01/02/2025 10:04

I get the medical aspect but that absolutely cannot be used to make his behaviour okay and not his fault and indeed your problem if you don't make allowances. He's cheated on you, he's writing filth to your friend, and passing this off as being hypersexualised involuntary behaviour is beyond bullshit. He can be bipolar and a cheating creep without one being the cause/excuse for the other. I'm sorry but from everything you've said, it's only you who's trying to fix things while he's still swinging his sledgehammer/dick around and the only healthy thing you can do is to step away and look after yourself. He'll destroy you both, and your friendship. Please use the support you have to take care of yourself rather than trying to work through something that is not going to work.

flowersintheattic2 · 01/02/2025 10:04

Tootiredforthis23 · 01/02/2025 09:44

@flowersintheattic2 how often are these messages occurring, do they just tend to occur during manic phases? If so, then the messages themselves at the time may be caused by his bipolar. BUT outside of manic phases he should be able to recognise they were inappropriate, apologise and have the sense to stop messaging her if he valued his marriage. It sounds like he’s using the potential bipolar diagnosis as an excuse to cheat.

I would say it's all the time.

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Endofyear · 01/02/2025 10:04

It sounds like your husband has put your friend in an awkward position - it's possible that she wanted to tell you about his inappropriate comments but found it difficult to broach the subject? Yes, you invaded his privacy by looking at his messages but you had good reason to do so - he has cheated on you and broken the trust in your relationship. Do you actually want to continue being with him? This would be a deal breaker for me to be honest. If he is diagnosed with bipolar, even with medication there's no guarantee that his behaviour will improve and you could well have a lifetime of difficulties ahead 🙁

Ppzd · 01/02/2025 10:02

flowersintheattic2 · 01/02/2025 09:21

Yes, he had a ONS.

That'd be me out just after the ONS. I admire you working through it. Now this sexualised messaging on top, that's unforgivable again for me. If he needs to express his hyper-sexuality, he can do so with you if you consent. Why do it with someone else? To me, sexting is part of cheating, even if the recipient doesn't reply back in the same vein, HE is sexting her, that's crossing a line for me.
If hypersexuality can be a symptom of bipolarity (I don't know enough about this thoigg), I'm pretty sure sexting/cheating isn't!!!! What a lame excuse from him. Get rid!

thepariscrimefiles · 01/02/2025 10:02

OtterlyMad · 01/02/2025 09:37

It’s hilarious when someone snoops and finds something incriminating and the partner acts as if their lying/cheating is now completely irrelevant because “OMG I can’t believe you went through my phone”. I don’t condone snooping but on a scale of bad things you can do in a relationship, snooping is like a 4 and cheating is a 10!!

Frankly I think you’re being too understanding of what he’s done, just because he might have bipolar… he still knows what he’s done is wrong. He has betrayed your trust, undermined your relationship and now is trying to turn the blame on you. Honestly I think you should have more care/respect for yourself and stop putting up with his bullshit.

Edited

Mumsnet is very unforgiving about posters who check their partner's phones to confirm their suspicions about their behaviour. Checking their partner's phone without their knowledge or permission becomes a far greater crime than the behaviour (no matter how awful) it reveals.

flowersintheattic2 · 01/02/2025 10:02

MySweetGeorgina · 01/02/2025 09:35

The fact that she does not stop it, shows she likes it. If a male friend started making any kind of sexual comment towards me, I would stop it very swiftly and stop responding to any of his messages.

She is not your friend . She is dvd. Trying to gaslight you

And yes, you clearly cannot trust your DH not to stray. Question is can you live with this.

All three of you clearly have issues with boundaries though! You are about to see her and play "happy friends" with her? Where is your dignity? Where are your boundaries?

They are messing with you. Telling you off for snooping is so audacious it's ridiculous

DVD?

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CheekyAquaBeaker · 01/02/2025 10:01

You said suspected so he hasn’t had the diagnosis yet? Is he currently in a manic episode? Hypersexuality can be an issue then but only in a manic/hypomanic phase. Is he on treatment? I’d just be careful he’s not using it as an excuse to behave inappropriately.

feelingalittlehorse · 01/02/2025 10:01

Blaming his cheating on his Bipolar is a little offensive on other people with Bipolar imo.

In fact; according to your ‘D’H, none of this seems to be his fault. Which is odd seeing as the astray penis is attached to his body 🤔

Twaddlepip · 01/02/2025 10:01

Why in the absolute fuck is she not stopping him/telling him to stop?

And she works in the field of mental health?!

Nah.

He’s trying to cheer again and she’s enjoying it.

crashbandicooty · 01/02/2025 10:00

He has done a real number on you. Forget the suspected Bi polar. Your husband cheated on you and is now sending sexually explicit messages to one of your closest friends who isn't shutting it down. What does the man have to do for you to leave?!

meh2025 · 01/02/2025 10:00

He's a liar and a cheat, and you're not his psychologist, you're his doormat. Up to you if you want to stick around for more abuse.

Tomatocutwithazigzagedge · 01/02/2025 09:58

I have a few good male friends as I attended a university that had quite a male bias. All are married, with families. One of my friends started sending IMs to me, reminding me of things from the past, catching up etc, which then turned leery and eventually sexual in nature.

My first response was not to respond, but to ask "How are the wife and kids?"

After bleating on about struggles in his sexless marriage I just responded that he should set his focus on fixing that, and not sending me sexual requests that I'm not going to accept, and that if I was his wife, I wouldn't be happy.

I don't understand why she's just replying with emojis and not nipping it in the bud. How does brushing over it help him realise that it's unacceptable to be a bloody sex pest. I'd be having words about it with your friend.

On his side though... With that knowledge, and the previous cheating you must completely have the ick. Would you even want to have sex with his man again? There's no trust there at all for you. I'd be reviewing whether I wanted to be in a relationship with him at all.

Redcandlescandal · 01/02/2025 09:58

Oh I would be bored trying to analyse him.

Just LTB. There’s no trust, so no relationship.

Mirabai · 01/02/2025 09:58

When you say he’s being seen by a psychiatrist for “suspected” bipolar - how many times had he seen the doctor? It doesn’t take long to make a mental health diagnosis.

thepariscrimefiles · 01/02/2025 09:56

flowersintheattic2 · 01/02/2025 09:21

Yes, he had a ONS.

He sounds awful. He has been unfaithful, is sending sexual comments to your friend and he is refusing to talk to you. Why on earth would you want to stay with him?

What is your situation? Do you have children together? Do you work? Start making plans to separate.

Mirabai · 01/02/2025 09:55

He’s just a sex pesty philandering perv - and your friend has no boundaries.

Bipolar or not is irrelevant.

Flamingoknees · 01/02/2025 09:55

Your DH is a cheat - his MH struggles don't make that OK, or mean you should put up with it.
Your friend is a disgrace. As a MH professional, she knows exactly how to immediately shut down this type of behaviour. She isn't doing so because she likes it, on some level. She is NOT a friend to you.
Start putting yourself first and ditch these two gaslighters OP. Start by cancelling your stay. Please don't put up with this for a moment longer. As a retired health professional, my blood is boiling reading this.

TheNuthatch · 01/02/2025 09:54

You are being a doormat op. Your husband's behaviour is inexcusable, bipolar or not.
Your 'friend' is a disgrace to her profession, and she is gaslighting you. They are both making a fool of you.
You need to start making steps to divorce him before things get worse. I wouldn't want any further contact with this 'friend'.

BouncerMum · 01/02/2025 09:54

OP, you yourself will end up with anxiety and depression if you carry on in this triangle of gaslighting.

I can’t believe you looked at his messages and saw inappropriate comments between them, and they’ve said oh but you are the problem, the snoop. Tell you “friend” to get to F. With friends like that, one who is getting some kind of ego massage by accommodating his selfishness, who needs enemies.

What pops out here is, WHAT DO YOU WANT OUT OF LIFE? Do you have DC? Do you want to travel? Do you want to laugh, and have fun and be supported? Can this man do this for you, or is he a hoover, vacuuming the joy out of you?

If so, cast him off and her.

If a crime was committed, or a breach of some sort happened at work, there would be an investigation. People who say you are invading someone’s privacy if they suspect an affair, a breach of marital contract, by looking for the evidence are obviously gaslighters and manipulators themselves.