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People who don’t bother removing personal information etc when fly tipping deserve the fine

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Cuffi · 01/02/2025 08:08

Yesterday I was walking down a road and spotted a couple of Amazon boxes - both stuffed with rubbish. Still had address on both boxes.

i hate fly tipping. It makes the areas messy, attracts vermin and shows how lazy people are.

Using an app called Love Clean Streets- sent a report with photos. Love Clean Streets you can report things like fallen trees, dead animals as well as fly tipping

if people spend a few seconds on removing address, they will be less likely to be caught. So they deserve fines

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Cuffi · 01/02/2025 15:08

Having signs to say fly tipping is illegal and fines will be imposed if caught, don't work.

My friend is a member of the South Leicestershire Litter Wombles and she does group picks - laybys, industrial parks, bypasses, A roads. They often find fly tips by signs "No fly tipping". Most of its a car's worth of fly tipping. Other times, its 17 fridges and the rest. This is the group page on FB. https://www.facebook.com/groups/604107836721038

Also many farms have to pay for the fly tipping done on their land/entrances to fields, unless they find addresses etc on the crap.

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SerendipityJane · 01/02/2025 14:43

CaptainMyCaptain · 01/02/2025 13:17

It's advisable to avoid identity theft but doesn't let you off the hook with fly tipping. Fly tipping is unforgivable and deserves the fines.

It's the one crime - along with littering - that I would happily see the death penalty restored for.

If you stop to think about what is going on here ... this is a bunch of folks showing they have zero regard for you and your environment. Where your children play. Where your family live. Where your neighbours make a community.

Flytipping and littering is a big "fuck you" to all of that and should be treated with an even bigger fuck you of the harshest penalties we can think of.

In civil emergencies, it's not uncommon for looters to be shot. In civil peacetime they could target practice with litterbugs. I wouldn't shed a tear.

FlyTippingVan · 01/02/2025 13:27

There is a local fly tipper who dumps a white van load twice a week. I caught him doing it last Sunday evening for the second time. My word against his so the police will do nothing without hard evidence - ie a video recording.

I even have his number plate.

As @taxguru says, the householders who are quite relaxed to pay cash in hand for a man with a van are culpable here.

If the local farmers find him, he can kiss his arse goodbye. It will be like a scene from The Revenant.

CaptainMyCaptain · 01/02/2025 13:17

Cuffi · 01/02/2025 11:04

Why can't people spend a few seconds removing their address from packaging? I always do. Sometimes the sticker doesn't come off cleanly and in bits.

It's advisable to avoid identity theft but doesn't let you off the hook with fly tipping. Fly tipping is unforgivable and deserves the fines.

Bayonetlightbulb · 01/02/2025 12:18

ScanningQRCode · 01/02/2025 08:19

Yes agree mostly. But there were a couple of cases locally to me where people paid for waste to be taken away for them and the dodgy scammers then flytipped. Our community facebook page did a much better job at hunting the scammers down than the police ever would have.

Still the original people's responsibility to ensure their waste is disposed or correctly so they should still be fined

PlantDoctor · 01/02/2025 12:15

This happened locally recently and someone named and shamed. Turns out they had paid a man and van to take it to the tip and he had dumped it instead.

That said, you are still responsible if it's your rubbish as you chose to hire dodgy bloke.

RandomButtons · 01/02/2025 12:11

ScanningQRCode · 01/02/2025 08:19

Yes agree mostly. But there were a couple of cases locally to me where people paid for waste to be taken away for them and the dodgy scammers then flytipped. Our community facebook page did a much better job at hunting the scammers down than the police ever would have.

You have a legal duty to check waste collectors are licensed.

If they aren’t you are still liable for fly tipping.

SerendipityJane · 01/02/2025 12:09

MolkosTeenageAngst · 01/02/2025 11:35

I don’t think most people remove the address labels from envelopes/ parcel packaging before putting them into their bins, I certainly don’t.

It is advised to prevent identity theft.

MolkosTeenageAngst · 01/02/2025 11:35

Cuffi · 01/02/2025 11:15

Just to prove a point that there is a reason why you need to remove the address labels. If they did remove their address, I just have put cardboard into my recycling bin. Plus this family are always messy.

I don’t think most people remove the address labels from envelopes/ parcel packaging before putting them into their bins, I certainly don’t.

Iknjtjumpers · 01/02/2025 11:19

HoraceCope · 01/02/2025 11:10

nobody should fly tip

Goes without saying!!

What the heck is wrong with people that they feel the need to leave litter lying about and don’t pick up after themselves. It’s someone else’s job I suppose!!!

Cuffi · 01/02/2025 11:15

sandrapinchedmysandwich · 01/02/2025 11:06

Well this makes you a bit of an arse. You said this happened during a storm so therefore it is likely this blew off someones property

Just to prove a point that there is a reason why you need to remove the address labels. If they did remove their address, I just have put cardboard into my recycling bin. Plus this family are always messy.

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HoraceCope · 01/02/2025 11:10

nobody should fly tip

MolkosTeenageAngst · 01/02/2025 11:09

Cuffi · 01/02/2025 09:09

During one of the storms last year, an Amazon cardboard envelope rested by my car. On picking it up, I noticed the address label was still attached. I wrote on the envelope "I am back because you didn't bother to remove your address" and shoved it through their letterbox.

If it was in a storm there’s a good chance chance the envelope was thrown away appropriately but that the wind blew the bin open/ over and that the wind blew the envelope to your car. You sound very petty over that. Not something I would be sharing proudly!

sandrapinchedmysandwich · 01/02/2025 11:06

Cuffi · 01/02/2025 09:09

During one of the storms last year, an Amazon cardboard envelope rested by my car. On picking it up, I noticed the address label was still attached. I wrote on the envelope "I am back because you didn't bother to remove your address" and shoved it through their letterbox.

Well this makes you a bit of an arse. You said this happened during a storm so therefore it is likely this blew off someones property

Cuffi · 01/02/2025 11:04

Why can't people spend a few seconds removing their address from packaging? I always do. Sometimes the sticker doesn't come off cleanly and in bits.

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Fordian · 01/02/2025 10:51

taxguru · 01/02/2025 08:17

More likely they paid someone to clear the rubbish who wasn’t registered for trade waste and has dumped it rather than pay the tip costs. People don’t seem to know to ask for the trade waste transport authorisation certificate to prove the rubbish firm is legitimate.

The Trade Waste Transportation Authorisation Certificate needs a zippier name, doesn't it? 🤭

SerendipityJane · 01/02/2025 09:28

KittenPause · 01/02/2025 08:43

I don't really think that's a fair thing to expect someone to do

Fair or not, it's the law.

Basically, if you get waste taken away, get a proper receipt that has the waste carriers licence. Then it's their problem.

To be fair, it's the one thing our local authority isn't completely useless at. Flytipped rubbish gets scoured by volunteers and any ID is used to prosecute.

1984Winston · 01/02/2025 09:26

My BIL and SIL were investigated for fly tipping after they gave some things away on Facebook and the person then dumped it (and it was in an amazon box with their name on) they were so annoyed as it wasn't even rubbish and why get it if they didn't even want it? They didn't get fined as they could prove they gave it away on Facebook.

dizzydizzydizzy · 01/02/2025 09:23

Friend of mine got a £1000 for fly tipping. She drove her recycling to a local place where there are lots of recycling bins. She got all her recycling out of the car and put it on the pavement next to the bin. Then she started taking it from the pavement and putting it in the bins. When she had nearly finished, her phone rang and she took the call. She then forgot that she hadn't put all the rubbish in the bin and drove off. Unfortunately one of the cardboard boxes had her name and address on it......

AKAanothername · 01/02/2025 09:14

When caught, the fines should be much higher. We had a local case and the fine was only £300, so pretty much the same as hiring a skip. It's no deterrent if the likely fine is cheaper than doing the right thing.

Carouselfish · 01/02/2025 09:11

Ha people who are so scummy they fly tip and so thick they leave their address on should be blasted.into space. What's the point of them.

Cuffi · 01/02/2025 09:09

Whyherewego · 01/02/2025 08:44

someone repeatedly dumped a load of rubbish just by my house, I looked through the contents one day and found an envelope addressed to the next street. I gathered it up and dumped it on their doorstep with the addressstuck to the top. never happened again!

During one of the storms last year, an Amazon cardboard envelope rested by my car. On picking it up, I noticed the address label was still attached. I wrote on the envelope "I am back because you didn't bother to remove your address" and shoved it through their letterbox.

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Funnywonder · 01/02/2025 09:05

Treacletreacle · 01/02/2025 08:17

I have often taken items back to the house with the address on them. Humans are vile.

I think this is what I would want to do. In practice I'm not sure if I would go to the trouble. Depends how far they have travelled to dump their crap. You're right about humans!

Beck30 · 01/02/2025 09:01

I'd stick the details up on the local Facebook group. Then pick it up, take it round to theirs and empty it all in their garden. Maybe with a few bits stuck through their letterbox.

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