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To use a washed-up raw meat knife

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CuppaDog · 31/01/2025 19:32

DP and I had a big dispute regarding a hygiene issue. As these happen regularly, I'd love to get a sense check from this esteemed audience.

I cut DD (10)'s bread roll with a kitchen knife. That knife was used to cut raw chicken on the day before and subsequently washed up and has been dry overnight.

The strongly expressed demand was that I immediately throw away the bread roll, and that this is "common sense".

YABU - Using a raw meat knife for directly eaten food is never acceptable, even if it has been washed up
YANBU - It's fine to use a raw meat knife as long as it has been washed up

OP posts:
Pinkelephant66 · 31/01/2025 21:26

i think you should throw away the washing up bowl too if the knife has been in there 😂

Hoover2025 · 31/01/2025 21:25

Maddest thread of the day 😂

All our knives are interchangeable. Never had food poisioning. It’s never even occurred to me people have separate knives.

Bibi12 · 31/01/2025 21:25

I boil some hot water in a kettle and pour it over anything I used for raw meat.
If you just use soapy sponge then that sponge will become a perfect breeding ground for bacteria from the meat. So it will be the sponge which will be dirty and then you will use it to wash something else.

While parasites in the meat are rare these days they can also be extremely dangerous and people can have them for a long time before they develop any serious symptoms.

I think it's the case of awareness to be honest. The more awareness you have the more careful you become. If you don't know what can happen you just don't think about it.

user1492757084 · 31/01/2025 21:22

It's fine.
I've done a food handling cert.

Store uncooked or thawing chicken low down on fridge shelf. It won't drip on other food.
Use separate raw meat chopping board and knife.
Wash knife before using again for any purpose.
Wash chopping board before using again for raw meat..

Store cooked chicken, covered, higher up in fridge.

Tooearlytothink · 31/01/2025 21:19

If having this separation is apparently so important to DD, surely you would have to have agreed which are the raw meat knives & which are not? Otherwise how would either of you know what the other has used each knife for previously. Sounds bonkers to me though, as previous posters have said never seen this even in professional kitchens.

Ceecee2422 · 31/01/2025 21:17

We have a butchers block we chop everything on, we’re still alive lol never had food poisoning or anything else from it…….

BobbyBiscuits · 31/01/2025 21:13

In a commercial kitchen they use separate boards and utensils for cooked food and raw meat.
But in the home, it's not necessary as long as you wash it properly in hot soapy water.
Most people use the same knives for both, I know I do. And I have a food hygeine certificate. I know, get me! It's my highest level of qualification so I'm pretty sad really.

Dailystruggles · 31/01/2025 21:13

We pour boiling water over plates, knives and chopping boards that have had raw meat on them and then just wash them with everything else. Certainly don’t have specific knives(although probably wouldn’t use a bread knife for anything other than bread)

DeffoNeedANameChange · 31/01/2025 21:13

I understand that it's probably not an actual hygiene concern. But I do have separate stuff for raw meat. Like, I would never cut veg (especially salad veg) on the "meat" chopping board. If you've grown up that way, then it does feel like "contamination" even if it's not really.

And it turns out I trust the dishwasher more than I trust my own hand-washing skills (and sorry, but I really wouldn't trust my husband's washing-up skills. I would put the tea towel straight in the wash afterwards, because he often uses "drying up" as an opportunity to wipe away anything that survived the washing process 🤣🤣)

Ceecee2422 · 31/01/2025 21:12

Well surely the bread is cut where the meat was cut? So you’d have to throw that out too lol seems a bit ocd to me……..

Poale · 31/01/2025 21:11

that’s not a cultural thing, at least not in Beijing, amongst anyone I knew. Is he particular/have strange rules about other things too?

VotingForYourself · 31/01/2025 21:09

CuppaDog · 31/01/2025 20:09

Thanks for all the reassurances so far!

There is also a cultural dimension to this question. DP is Chinese where apparently the need for strict and full separation of raw meat and other utensils is taught from childhood.

There you go then. You know why he thinks as he does. So what's the deal here. Did he flip his lid? Or was it just a oh how do we navigate this difference in our upbringing type of conversation?

WiddlinDiddlin · 31/01/2025 21:07

Eh, I've got Chinese friends (one of whom owns a restaurant), so I asked...

The response was resoundingly: "thats not a culture thing thats a 'Your DP's parents thing!"...

None had ever heard of it.

FallingIsLearning · 31/01/2025 20:54

CuppaDog · 31/01/2025 20:09

Thanks for all the reassurances so far!

There is also a cultural dimension to this question. DP is Chinese where apparently the need for strict and full separation of raw meat and other utensils is taught from childhood.

I’m Chinese.

I have never heard of that rule before.

Tourmalines · 31/01/2025 20:53

He’s ridiculous

Yeahno · 31/01/2025 20:53

I think his excuse is BS. To give him the benefit of the doubt, he grew up in a weird house.

Blindedu · 31/01/2025 20:51

I have like 3 sharp knives that cut everything.

TwoLeftSocksWithHoles · 31/01/2025 20:50

I have advocated in the past that all the food we eat should be shrink wrapped individually immediately before we place it in our mouth to avoid any cross-contamination.

However I sometimes wake up at night coughing up bits of cling-film and think thst there may be a fundamental flaw in my idea.

On the plus side I have lost a lot of weight.

RedToothBrush · 31/01/2025 20:49

What is the purpose of washing up?

I'm confused.

Get a grip.

Deeperthantheocean · 31/01/2025 20:49

It was washed up, fine, not like you went from chicken to bread roll immediately! Xx

SchrodingersTwat2 · 31/01/2025 20:44

Thinking further, I have a halal frying pan and baking tray that have never had non halal food cooked on them.

But we all use the same crockery and cutlery!

Nonaynevernomore · 31/01/2025 20:44

This can’t have the first time this was an issue? Why let it get this far?

SchrodingersTwat2 · 31/01/2025 20:41

Do he throw cooking dishes and trays away after raw meat has been put on them?

Haffiana · 31/01/2025 20:40

CuppaDog · 31/01/2025 20:09

Thanks for all the reassurances so far!

There is also a cultural dimension to this question. DP is Chinese where apparently the need for strict and full separation of raw meat and other utensils is taught from childhood.

Nah. Rubbish.

He wanted a bread roll thrown away because 'common sense'. Not because 'culture'.

He either has incipient OCD/other mental health issue or he is just terminally ignorant and uninformed.

I also come from a culture/background where meat utensils and other foodstuffs utensils are kept entirely separate. Not uncommonly in entirely separate kitchens, even.

I am perfectly able to understand the difference between that and the health risk from a washed knife.

MrsTerryPratchett · 31/01/2025 20:32

HelloMyNameIsElderSmurf · 31/01/2025 20:21

That's my (limited) experience too @C1nnam0n - a friend shared a flat with a person of Chinese origin and it was a pleasure to watch her cook, her cleaver was like an extension of her hand and she used it for everything.

Quite. My Chinese friends use the same fucking massive for everything.

I mean I assume he cooks meat and veg in the same pan. How is it different?

Chopping boards I'm a little more careful. But knives get completely clean.

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