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To ask Trump supporters how they defend this?

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snugsnug1 · 31/01/2025 14:18

To be blunt, I don't understand how anyone can stand this guy. Nothing on earth would convince me to vote for him (I'm American), but he seems to have a surprising level of support on here. Over 60 people died, including a sickening number of children.

How is this ok?

“I have a plan to visit, not the site. Because you tell me, what’s the site? The water? You want me to go swimming?” Donald Trump responded during a White House press briefing on Thursday. The latest tragic mishap marks the deadliest US air disaster in two decades.

All 67 passengers feared dead in Washington DC plane crash, 28 bodies recovered from river — 10 things to know | Today News

Washington DC Plane Crash: Multiple bodies have been recovered from the Potomac River following a collision between a passenger jet and a military helicopter. At least 28 bodies were found, with 60 passengers onboard the jet, including figure skaters r...

https://www.livemint.com/news/us-news/washington-dc-plane-crash-30-bodies-recovered-from-river-russian-skating-couple-among-victims-10-things-to-know-11738231200746.html

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Phthia · 01/02/2025 03:56

Sarahconnor1 · 31/01/2025 14:51

These constant demands to justify trumps latest crazy, are as boring as they are pointless.

He is the US president, there is bugger all the vast majority of MN posters can do about that.

Posters who support Trump can explain how and why they do so in light of this sort of behaviour, including posters in the US, and give us some insight into the mindset of his voters. Given the dangers he poses, that's quite important.

Winamy192 · 01/02/2025 03:50

Momtotwokids · 01/02/2025 03:47

You should really worry about your own country. No one seemed bothered when Biden was incompetent or walked around not knowing what he was doing. Trump hopefully will get our country back on track. Men don't need to be in women's bathrooms or sports. We need to take care of our citizens not illegals who come here and cause serious trouble.

So what about women's rights? How is that ok? You do realise basically all of America are immigrants anyway?

Momtotwokids · 01/02/2025 03:47

You should really worry about your own country. No one seemed bothered when Biden was incompetent or walked around not knowing what he was doing. Trump hopefully will get our country back on track. Men don't need to be in women's bathrooms or sports. We need to take care of our citizens not illegals who come here and cause serious trouble.

Winamy192 · 01/02/2025 03:37

XWKD · 01/02/2025 03:32

Trump is absolute scum.

I read an interview he did back in the 90s possibly where he said something along the lines of I'll be president one day and be in control cause the people in USA are stupid enough to vote for me. 🫠😭😱

Winamy192 · 01/02/2025 03:32

snugsnug1 · 31/01/2025 14:18

To be blunt, I don't understand how anyone can stand this guy. Nothing on earth would convince me to vote for him (I'm American), but he seems to have a surprising level of support on here. Over 60 people died, including a sickening number of children.

How is this ok?

“I have a plan to visit, not the site. Because you tell me, what’s the site? The water? You want me to go swimming?” Donald Trump responded during a White House press briefing on Thursday. The latest tragic mishap marks the deadliest US air disaster in two decades.

Although this is awful - I'm more concerned about the abortion rights that he wants to take away (I know it's already happened but it's going to get worse) no exceptions etc I feel so so so sad for all women in the USA - it's like their rights are being stripped and the law is going backwards not forwards. And these laws and decisions are put in place by men!!!

XWKD · 01/02/2025 03:32

Trump is absolute scum.

Firefly1987 · 01/02/2025 03:28

I'm sick to death of hearing about the bloke tbh. We barely get any of our own news it's America this Gaza that. Non-stop coverage of the election, then him going into the White House, such a yawnfest. Meanwhile the vast majority of Americans don't care enough about our country to even have a bloody clue who our prime minister is. Obviously the plane crash was terribly tragic and newsworthy but I don't really care what Trump has to say about it. He's always saying dumb shit, this isn't new. Why not try reddit which is very American centric? I come here to get away from talk about American politics, god, abortion....

EmeraldShamrock000 · 01/02/2025 02:39

Sadly the options for election were very poor.

Busywithsomething · 31/01/2025 22:38

It's beyond belief that such a ridiculous oaf is now the POTUS. What sane individual would vote for him ?

Scammersarescum · 31/01/2025 22:32

There is something deeply wrong with Mr Trump.

He simply is not a normal, sane human.

God bless American because they need all of the help they can get with him at the helm. My heart goes out to the normal Americans who see him for what he is.

Coolasfeck · 31/01/2025 22:25

God forbid I ever end up in the situation these families are in. Nevertheless I know if I was I’d be so hurt if the leader of my country acted the way Trump has. Can some people not put HUMANITY above politics and point scoring?

The books that will be written about this period…

suburberphobe · 31/01/2025 20:51

^Also the fact he blamed the accident on “diversity and inclusion policies” brought in by Obama and Biden.
He's an absolutely VILE man.^

Took the words right out of my mouth.

Notonthestairs · 31/01/2025 20:43

"“Because you tell me, what’s the site? The water? You want me to go swimming?”

It was neither a respectful or statesmanlike response to a very easy and predictable question.

A straightforward response of "I'll visit when it's appropriate to do so, right now I am concentrating on offering my full support to the emergency services and families" etc

Nobody expected him to say he's going straightaway and certainly nobody expected him to get in the river.

19751974P · 31/01/2025 20:41

If I was a family of a victim I would be campaigning to keep him away from the crash site. His insensitivity, disrespect and crassness are breathtaking.

Happyher · 31/01/2025 20:40

He has no propriety, integrity, courtesy, no idea what being a leader is about. He reads the appropriate statements more intelligent people have written for him like a seven year old reading to his class and then the buffoon goes off on some weird inappropriate rant spewing his prejudices and hatred.

God help us all

Thegoatliesdownonbroadway · 31/01/2025 20:35

Sarah2891 · 31/01/2025 20:12

YANBU. He's despicable and so is anyone who supports him..

77 million Americans are despicable?

MsReacher2025 · 31/01/2025 20:31

ElatedShark · 31/01/2025 19:55

He also hasn't offered any condolences at all.

His first speech about the whole thing was to blame diversity, curious how he will blame people of colour/minorities now it's been shown all pilots and air controllers are white American men.

He gave a speech fairly soon after in which he offered condolences and thanked the emergency services. He made a point of mentioning people from the specific places, (Russia, Wichita, Washington), who were on the plane and said the whole country was in mourning.

Bits from what he said:
A real tragedy... they've done a phenomenal job - so quick so fast.... this was a dark and excruciating night.. as one nation we grieve for every precious soul - we are a nation in mourning... For the family members -- very, very ,sorry we can only begin to imagine the agony.... our prayers are with you now... and to offer you our devotion our love and our support..."

It's not a quote it's just what I gleaned from the speech and I didn't get all of it ... but to say he never mentioned the families simply isn't true.

I'm not a American and can't say I'd have voted for him if I were an American. His politics worry me. You may love him or hate him - but the facts are important.

CheeseyOnionPie · 31/01/2025 20:28

fanaticalfairy · 31/01/2025 14:33

He's just saying he won't go to the water site, but stay in land... What's the problem?

Yeah ok buddy

MsReacher2025 · 31/01/2025 20:18

Are you genuinely wondering how it wd feel to have a "loved one" involved?? Or are you using the tragedy to score more points about a politician you hate?

What he said was a response ... probably to a jibe or a heckle or a sneery "question" - and likely designed to put down an aggressive questioner rather than as a message to the victims' families. But I haven't clicked your link as I don't care.

BoldRed · 31/01/2025 20:16

He’s a horror. Those poor people have only just died and he’s using their deaths for political gain and making the most appalling ‘jokes’. It’s depressing how much he debases his office.

Sarah2891 · 31/01/2025 20:12

YANBU. He's despicable and so is anyone who supports him..

Coolasfeck · 31/01/2025 20:11

Yes the poor families, many of whom’s loved ones are still in a cold, dark river. He has no empathy, it’s all about him and scoring cheap points.

And now he’s put tariffs on multiple countries which will drive up the price of goods for millions of ordinary people.

It’s all a game for Trump and the tech oligarchs.

And millions of people voted for this, not because they thought their lives would be better, but because they thought others would suffer.

PointsSouth · 31/01/2025 20:11

Megapint · 31/01/2025 14:58

Honestly, I don't really have an opinion on it. I don't invest much time in American politics. I just think your question is a little disingenuous. If you want actual answers from Trump voters, go ask actual Trump voters.

The OP didn't ask the opinion of Trump voters. He asked the opinion of MN users.

Like any US President, Trump's a global figure and what he says and does carries global significance. We in the UK may not be able to do much about it, but we can certainly think about it and talk about it. If we want. Which some of us do. And you might not.

kellysjowls · 31/01/2025 20:03

To be honest I struggle to find this worse than all the million offensive and criminal things he's done.
But the voters were obviously at peace with that, and the person he is....

ElatedShark · 31/01/2025 19:56

Notonthestairs · 31/01/2025 19:54

From his own mouth. The ACTUAL video proof is everywhere online/tv news go look