To ask Trump supporters how they defend this?

The fact that Trump can do basically whatever he likes, even bizarrely demanding to have countries, without Trump supporters blinking is a worry and seems cult like to me. It is off the scale to what we are used to in the West

We generally like what he is doing.

And we do criticize Trump often—for example there was a huge pushback when he said we should staple green cards to diplomas while on the campaign trail (an obviously dumb idea).

I think buying Greenland would be fantastic. Hope he can negotiate a deal on this one.

Can you give me the actual quote of Trump saying he vowed to strike back against the FBI? This doesn't appear to be a quote.

So you have decided that anybody who gets sacked from the FBI did not deserve to be and there will be no good reasons, regardless of what actually transpires?

I prefer to wait and watch for facts and make judgements based on that.

The requested list, which interim DOJ leaders had spent the past week drawing up, highlights how the new administration has moved quickly to deliver on President Donald Trump’s vow to strike back at the Justice Department and FBI that he claims have been weaponized against him. Trump has falsely accused agents of abuse in their court-ordered search of his Mar-a-Lago home and of their treatment of Capitol rioters

He says it himself! He vowed to strike back. I am not sure what reasons you need when it's out of his mouth.

I found a video clip of the interview on CNN, it starts about half a question before he makes the comment above. It seems like a bad tempered adversarial interview with the journalist talking over his responses. I’m guessing the swimming comment was made out of temper.

so I’d say it should not have been said but it’s not that he was trying to get cheap laughs from a tragic situation. So not as bad as is being made out and not as bad as the text reads.

was the journalist hoping to provoke something like this? Perhaps. Is that at least as shameful? What about those using comments once removed from this tragic accident to score political points is that any better? @snugsnug1

Was this for me? I guess as only 6 have been ordered to stand down or be sacked, not 1000s, we will just have to wait and see what the reasons given are.

We know why. Revenge.

Oh sorry she said pig shit. Not dog shit.

So not 1000s of FBi agents then, only 6?

I guess we will wait to see the reasons for their sacking and wait to see who else gets sacked and why.

No, you are quite fixated on forcing me to interact with you for some reason on issues you are particularly concerned about, when in fact I was interacting with someone else and you inserted yourself into that interaction and I responded to you politely and on point.

I simply wanted to point out the absurdity and bigotry of calling 77 million people as dumb as dog shit for disagreeing with you.

I appreciate that you believe that it is in fact crass and vile to call 77 million people as dumb as dogshit. I wouldn't have used those words, I'd have said confused, not very bright or not in full possession of the facts.

And I never stated or implied that I do not have my own reservations about Trump. But I'm afraid that you are not in charge of what I discuss or don't discuss, however much that might upset you.

"A separate memo by Bove identified more than a half-dozen FBI senior executives who were ordered to retire or be fired by Monday, and also asked for the names, titles and offices of all FBI employees who worked on investigations into the Jan. 6, 2021, U.S. Capitol riot — a list the bureau’s acting director said could number in the thousands. Bove, who has defended Trump in his criminal case"

One source. It's all over the internet. And are you saying to me that every single person who worked on these prosecutions happened to be incompetent?
Hardly likely dont you think?

They are being sacked because they worked on bringing criminals who caused an insurrection to justice

He gave a stupid answer to a stupid question. You've answered several questions (you perceive as such on this thread) in the same way (ie with sarcasm). The difference between Trump and other leaders is that he vents his frustration at reporters unguarded, others would wait until they're off mic.

But my point is can you show why they are being sacked? Perhaps they are incompetent? You seem sure they are being sacked for being apolitical and doing their jobs, I just wondered how you knew that.

In answer to your question, I have no idea. I don’t know the 77 million people from a bar of soap. You are very fixated on whether I think they are stupid, but actually even very intelligent people can be attracted to personality cults and I suspect this is the case here, on a mass scale.

The fact that Trump can do basically whatever he likes, even bizarrely demanding to have countries, without Trump supporters blinking is a worry and seems cult like to me. It is off the scale to what we are used to in the West.

No

They haven't been sacked yet. Apparently it's happening on Monday. There is loads of information about this out there

You're being terribly sanctimonious while at the same time desperately deflecting. How odd.

And I cannot seem to stop you from engaging with me for some bizarre reason, do feel free to go away at any time as it's quite dull :)

The original poster did in fact engage with me, to ask me what I would call them. I answered her.

So you agree then that 77 million people are not, in fact, as dumb as dog shit and the original poster was, in your own words, crass and vile to make that incorrect claim.

Well, that's good then. So no reason to discuss further :)

Trump made it clear he would free the J6ers as soon as he got into power and as with his other promises, he kept to it.

Can you please give links to sources discussing that FBi agents were sacked for upholding law and order and being apolitical?

I’m not a Trump supporter or defender, and I find those comments crass, and quite vile.

But at the same time OP, your question is inane. In a democracy people don’t have to defend who they vote for to anyone else.

Your sanctimonious “look how shit he is” with the embedded implication of how great you are is really dull and people won’t engage with you. Why should they?

Agree. EU will be next.

I also find being told to mind our own business by American Trump supporters puzzling too. Apart from Trump demanding to have other countries, the tariffs have an impact on world trade as well. He has started with Canada, Mexico and China - who next? Of course the rest of us in the world are concerned.

He’s accomplished more in one week than GOP has done in years

Hahaha...yeah his revenge purge is quite an achievement...is it over 1,000 FBI agents he's sacking because they upheld law and order in bringing to justice the criminals of the insurrection

They are apolitical but sacked for doing their job and upholding democracy

Quite an achievement 🥺

Oh dear no, you have the interaction confused. A woman claimed 77 million people are as dumb as dog shit. I questioned that. You then interjected and tried to insist I answer your questions as a way of deflecting.

And, of course, it is very much a logical fallacy to insist that if people voted for Trump they agree with all the things you, personally consider unacceptable.

I can understand that it's embarrassing to have to say yes I think 77 million people are as dumb as dog shit, because it marks whoever says it as a bigot at worst or very confused at best and, possibly, not very bright.

I can see why you would rather deflect than answering yes or no.

So, to return to the original question I asked the poster in direct response to her statement - do you believe 77 million people are as dumb as dog shit because they disagree with you?

If no, then I have idea at all why you are responding to me.

If yes, see above.

It is not true to say he is trying to ban abortion

And you believe him? He lies like a cheap rug all the time. In his previous administration he was fact checked at different times and sometimes he would tell up to 100 lies in one press conference. Wait till Vance gets his way on an abortion ban

He is a truly disgusting man his comments after this dreadful tragedy were incomprehensible. He was already apportioning blame whilst the bodies weren't even recovered from the river and then cracks a cheap joke

He’s accomplished more in one week than GOP has done in years

Trying to imagine a Jeb! government. Just more of the same demoralizing shit tbh

So, you can stop worrying now, he has no plans to ban abortion. If you feel strongly about it, you could lobby the individual states or discuss with women in those states how best to help them, since Trump won't be banning abortion

Or, if people feel strongly about it they could move States to another that they are aligned with. I don’t live in the USA but in another country with States, and there are some here I wouldn’t live in as I consider the politicians/politics in those are crackers. There’s a level of personal responsibility in all of this.

I understand it’s not going to solve every situation, such as a 13yo raped by her father who can’t access an abortion or independently move States. But that’s a minority, the VAST majority of people in a Stare are there voluntarily, no one’s making you live in one State versus another, at a certain point quite early in life these are personal choices we all make.

Well, ordinary American people aren't exactly known around the world for their intelligence. Voting for Trump proves that. They voted in a criminal.