To be really glad I don't live in America right now

If feels like we are living in a parallel universe. A sick parody. Trump is utterly reprehensible. How anyone can support or admire him is beyond me. He has no redeeming features. He is a dangerous creep.

Can you imagine a foreign power hosting a globally broadcast press conference and saying 'oh we will probably just go in and take LA. Rebuild it. It's a disaster over there. Awful. We will be asking Mexico and Canada to take in the Los Angelenos - get them a nice piece of land there. Build them something lovely out there. Yes we will be taking ownership of LA for the long term. What if the Los Angelenos want to come back? Why would they, it was horrible those fires and of course there will just be more fires so why would they want to come back? It's by the Ocean you know, we can make it real nice and global people can live there'.

Can you imagine how the Orange Shit Gibbon would react to that.

This is the problem. People are wildly unrealistic about Israel. America doesn’t even have that much leverage on them.

OK then, good for you.

As for me, I'm worried about a potential future under Reform and the like here in the UK, with the NHS likely to be privatised, an increasingly hostile environment for immigrants, women and minorities, and life becoming harder and harder for those without significant means and privileges, such as minimum wage workers, housing becoming increasingly unaffordable, educational opportunities increasingly unequal etc etc.

He reinstated border control and I had no trust she’d do that. He even went so far as to rescind birthright citizenship, which he’d not even campaigned on.

I’m also pleased that he codified sex as male and female and has slashed DEI efforts federally. I’m also a ‘small government’ person so reducing the size and scope of the federal government is a welcome move.

Honestly, it’s been beyond my expectations. Gaza is perhaps the first misstep to me personally.

Which bits are categorically wrong?

Of course there is such a thing as intersex. It's well known in biology. Often in crustaceans and fish but also in mammals.
This body of biological study?

People who are intersex have genitals, chromosomes or reproductive organs that don't fit into a male/female sex binary. Their genitals might not match their reproductive organs, or they may have traits of both. Being intersex may be evident at birth, childhood, later in adulthood or never. Causes may be trisomy or may be developmental.
This body of biological study?
What about those with CAIS? XY but develop as females. Are they male or female? Do you propose they be surgically altered to make them align with their chromosomes, and not with their assigned gender at birth?
https://isna.org/faq/conditions/ais/

FYI I have an ancestor who was registered as a girl at birth (1871) but developed as a boy and went on to found a successful business and family.
Are you calling me a liar?

Don't be silly. I am saying the best thing for everybody is to accept reality and find a new solution. Going round in circles blowing each other up is not long term viable. Unless you think it is?

How is he 100 times better than Harris?

I will wait and see. Not entirely happy with Gaza (prefer to do nothing except pull funding from Israel) but willing to see where he goes with this.

He’s 100 times better than Harris

I just preferred Trump’s policies. Not exactly happy with Gaza but still preferable to Harris et al.

In fact I’m very optimistic for the future of my country.

Also for all those people who claimed Trump was against the USA involving itself in foreign wars….

Is that a yes or no to the proposed forced relocation of Gazans as Trump is recommended?

But people don't want to think about these things. They would rather close their eyes to reality and believe the 'sunlit uplands' lies fed to them, even in the knowledge they are being lied to. Then blame the misery of their lives on immigrants.

No. I am saying someone has to quit, and Israel never will, so best cut your losses and take a different path. As I mentioned many times, I am passionately antizionist.

So you are also calling for the ethnic cleansing of Gaza?

I have family there in Blue States who are meandering along ok.

But I do feel sorry for them have The Orange Mad Man in power. But it’s his fanbots that are more disturbing. I saw he has clearly called for the ethnic cleansing of Gaza with colonisation by the USA yet all of his supporters see no issue with this.

He is mad but his supporters are madder. There is literally nothing he could do or say that would put them off.

I get what you are saying but …

Israel is not the UK. And Ireland is not Gaza. And both sides trusted America
as a negotiating partner.

It’s just not possible. Israel covets that land and will not give up their claim because you think it’s the right thing to do. They do not operate on that basis

Trump is not for women’s rights. In the red states they are already reintroducing and pushing covenant marriages as law. They’ll do this by incentivising tax breaks and pushing this through churches. It removes the ability of a no-fault divorce if you sign up to one and this will disproportionately affect poorer women. This means they will have to prove abuse to get out of the marriage, which in theory sounds easy but we know hard that is (just look on the boards here for women that try to leave their husbands). The republicans know women choose to end their marriages more so than men, so they want to make it harder to leave. They’re also making it harder to access contraception and anti abortion but they’ll throw women a bone with the whole trans culture wars. But I don’t live there and they voted for this.

But life literally DOES begin at conception! I'm pro-choice but these are just basic facts.

So what is your solution that does not rely on Israel suddenly not being Israel?

@SernieBanders

how on earth could it be worse?!?! also the amount of aid money that goes to Gaza right now is huge - how about instead of spending it there, for it to be blown up a week later, it was used to pay to set up a viable Palestinian homeland, somewhere where they wo;t get blown up?

It is a spiritual homeland. They have a deep religious connection to this place, so it isn't a case of being able to simply pack up and set elsewhere and job done.

Of course, that's also the very same reason Israel wants it.

The big issue is you somehow think you can force Israel to accept a hostile Gazan presence next door. Even America cannot do that.

@SernieBanders

I'm quite passionately anti zionist, and left leaning. But I have come to the conclusion that Israel is never going to go anywhere and so possibly the best thing to do is to move the Palestinians, who to be clear I think have a better claim to the land, to somewhere where they will not be perpetual victims of war. There will never be peace until someone moves, and Israel, backed by the US, is never going to is it.

Neither Egypt nor Jordan wish to take any displaced Palestinian people.

What is happening here is Bibi requesting US military assistance with his ethnic cleanse. Trump, in his speech, was simply too clear with what he, Bibi and Jared Kushner would then do with the cleared territory.