To be really glad I don't live in America right now

Yes of course it did.

BUT the Democrats knew this was a likelihood and failed to act to codify Roe v Wade to prevent it.

Obama had even promised to do this pre- his first term election but didn't follow through.

Neither party has, when it comes down to it, acted to protect women's reproductive rights.

I am merely pointing out the hypocrisy of the Democrats in failing to recognise the part they played in failing to settle this once and for all.

The Prime Minister has the authority to declare war. Parliament has no say in it.

I get the sense that the minority you are most concerned about are the ones who identify as women but who are in fact male?

The restoration of single sex spaces and sports is a positive for female people and for homosexual people, if sex is displaced by gender then you have the absolute horrors of lesbians being told that they have to accept that males can be lesbians and the issues of males wanting to break the cotton ceiling.

I am also familiar with the Handsmaid Tale, both the book and the TV series. I definitely saw the irony of the way that women thrown to the alter of trans in Canada & other parts of the Western World in the backdrop partcularly of the TV show.

I don't doubt that things will be difficult for minority groups, I understand that trans people do not benefit from anti discrimination laws in housing and employment in the way that they do in the UK and I don't think that anyone should be harassed or victimised because they don't perform gender roles.

However when women are being raped and sexually assaulted in prison by male bodied inmates and when girls lose out to sporting scholarships and are called bigots for not wanting to be naked in changing rooms next to male bodies and gay or vulnerable children are being given hormones to prevent their bodies from developing appropriately and are having double mastectomies because they don't feel that they align with femininity then women have a problem. It is our job to protect women and children from such sexism and physical harm. It's a shame the Democrats failed to recognise the problem leaving Trump with an open goal.

In the meantime it's 2025 and the USA has a female in the most senior administrative role which is Chief of Staff. So I have no doubt that Trump is a misogynist. I can't stand what he stands for in the majority of his beliefs but I applaud him for restoring women's sex based rights and for halting the medical harm to children.

But there lies the problems which dei policies were trying to address. Competent black people are regularly overlooked for jobs they qualify for simply because of their colour their names. Competent women are overlooked or nor catered for because they are women. The argument for dei is not to get incompetent people in. It's to create a fair system where everyone can thrive in. To create workplace policies where racism, bullying, sexism in their multitude of forms are not tolerated. To investigate structural barriers based on race, sex, (dis)ability and dismantle them so that all those you call a tiny minority can enter and thrive. But fox and the hard right have sold a narrative that it is about getting incompetent minorities in. FGS we don't even know why the crash occurred but minorities are to blame? How is that not 1939 level shit?

This is real.

Americans had 3 candidates to vote for. Two of those, one got 49% and one got 48%.

We have several parties and a voting system which relies on "this party got most seats even if they didn't have candidates everywhere"

It's not a comparable system

Well he did appoint the judges who were instrumental in overturning Roe vs. Wade.
So that dud happen.

Times have changed considerably, for the worse in many cases, since his last administration
And he has been elected despite his anti-minority stance and literally being a criminal
He now has a legitimate claim that Americans don't care about minorities or legalities...

I read Handmaid's Tale long before it was a popular TV series and even the it struck me as how worryingly plausible it seemed. And the world was very different then.

He elected one woman and plenty of sex offenders. It's like saying "I can't be racist, I have a black friend". It doesn't mean he's pro-women

Trump couldn't give a fuck about abortion one way or the other, he just bends with the wind.

The Project 2025 team behind his presidency however are far more worrying.

Anyone interested in US politics should read it in full.

Summary from the Graun.

When have I said otherwise? I'm very simply replying to the generalisation that Americans are happy with him.

And people have said that, on this thread, as that was what I was responding to.

You mean for the infant mortality rate?
Or less economic inequality?
The weather sucks though I give you that

America is an extremely polarised country, I don't think anyone would say all Americans are happy with Trump. Just as not everyone here is happy with Labour.

Its worth pointing out that Trump, on the popular vote, had a much more decisive victory that our own Labour party did, he had 49.7% of the popular vote, Labour had 34% of the vote.

Based on that, its reasonable to guess that more Americans are happy with Trump, perhaps both in terms of numbers and level of happiness, than UK citizens are happy with their Government.

I really think Trump's opponents would be better off spending their time honestly and dispassionately appraising WHY he won

@likeyoubut That's exactly how I feel.

There was just over 1% difference between number of votes for him and for Kamala

Brexit had slightly more of a gap and still people wanted a do over...

Labour seem even more determined to 'kiss the ring' than the Tories would have been.

Mandelson's statement was a sad state of affairs.

He makes it harder for poor women to get an abortion.
Link above.
Also depends if you see every abortion as a tragedy. I don't. I see it as a choice.

What a strange thing to say

Like all Americans are the same person

I'm sure the Americans won't be bothered. They got the president they voted for.

Oh for the love of god. All sorts of things were said about Trump the first time which didn't happen.

Reproductive rights are in the hands of individual states. The democrats failed to codify when they had the opportunity and even when Obama had promised.

As for your 'woman's place should be in the home' under Trump narrative, well isn't it funny how Trump has appointed a woman Susie Wiles to Chief of Staff? Hardly a sign that he thinks women should be chained to the women sink.

I'm no fan of Trump but you could knock yourself out with the hyperbole you're posting.

I am not for a moment implying he did not have a legitimate victory (that seems to be the purview of Republicans). I am saying that statements like, Americans (generalised) are happy with him does not capture a true picture of the country.

Democracies work by counting the votes of those who actually voted. He won both the popular vote and the state vote. Within the rules of the game, he very clearly won on both ways of counting the vote.

Trying to reframe a victory as barely a victory by discarding how the system works is not convincing.

I can't stand the man, but I'm not going to try to pretend this was not an clear victory within the rules and context of the American election system.

I really think Trump's opponents would be better off spending their time honestly and dispassionately appraising WHY he won, than expending wasted energy pretending he hardly won at all.

How Americans feel is going to be who you know over there.
If you only really know rich, white, able bodied, straight people then you'll see a very different reaction to if those you know are in any minority (or more than one)

If you don't think it's coming then enjoy your new Handmaid role

He didn't get 50% of the votes...

No but it contributed definitely. I hear what you are saying about CNN but Fox News is rhe most popular and watched news channel in the US by some margin.