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14yo odd quiz at school- do I complain

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Cornecopia · 31/01/2025 07:01

My ds came home yesterday and said that he had to fill in an online form ( not just him the whole of his year) and the questions were- what is your sexual orientation, are you comfortable in your gender, have you had sexual experiences, have you ever sent or received inappropriate pictures.
I understand some questions are safeguarding views. But bloody hell the sexual orientation etc why on earth is that relevant to my sons schooling?? I just feel his privacy has been really invaded and he doesn’t know himself whether he’s is straight/gay or whatever- I did ask him if there was. ‘Prefer not to say’ option and he said yes but the teacher said not to use that!
I just don’t really know what to think about it all

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DrBlackbird · 31/01/2025 08:31

ElBandito · 31/01/2025 07:54

My child has been asked to answer a questionnaire like this recently, but is a younger age group. We had the choice to opt out. We did, not because of the questions, but because every time they do something like this at school re mental health I find my child's mental health dips. Rest of the time they are fine.

I think the problem is that in our case child tends to think too hard about the answers and then starts to doubt whether they are happy, have good friendships etc.

I'd be really interested if they ever add a section to something like this asking the participants how completing the questions has made them feel.

You reminded me of a time years ago that a school counsellor was asking students if they "ever felt hopeless about their future". My DC started to wonder ‘do they’ and became upset. So many poorly worded or incautiously worded personal questions and surveys. Sometimes deliberately worded. Yet, asking questions is not a neutral act. It is a powerful exercise esp for children as it can easily introduce or implant ideas that may have never occurred to them otherwise.

Littoralzone · 31/01/2025 08:30

NewFriendlyLadybird · 31/01/2025 08:21

Very relevant. People are getting worked up over something they do not know anything about. They’re just imagining stuff.

If the survey was about if they preferred broccoli to cauliflower they would still be entitled to op out or put prefer not to say.

Diomi · 31/01/2025 08:29

I wouldn’t over think it. These type of things are usually completed in a rush by a slightly frazzled teacher. One member of the class might deliver an impromptu protest speech about the school or government, depending on the personalities in the class and how engaged they are. Most teenagers are pretty sceptical about them and will tick it a bit randomly (or only tick ‘prefer not to say’) because they are teenagers and think everyone in the world will be looking at their answers. Then afterwards there will be loud discussion, where they all talk over each other, about how outrageously intrusive the questions were. Then they will head off to their lessons where they will grumble to the next teacher about it, in order to put off getting on with any work.

When they get home they will dramatically complain to their parents about it, knowing full well that they didn’t tick anything that they didn’t want to tick.

I would tell my child that they can always tick the ‘prefer not to say’ box and that would be my parenting done.

CarefulN0w · 31/01/2025 08:28

Teachers will know if they have pupils who are likely to answer most questions as "prefer not to say" out of laziness. It really does matter what words were used, but encouraging students to answer the questions would be OK with me.

LimeGoose · 31/01/2025 08:27

It’s absolutely unreasonable for children to be asked whether they’re comfortable in their ‘gender’ when no teenager is comfortable in their body and the concept of gender is undefinable without the use of rigid sex stereotypes. If those were the actual words used this is very worrying.

JollyZebra · 31/01/2025 08:27

Speak to the teacher. There may he a valid reason for the questionnaire. I would also point out that she should not be telling the pupils not to tick a particular option. I would expect these replies to be anonymous, if that is the case, your son could answer freely that he'd prefer not too say. Knowing 14 year olds, if it's anonymous they'll have a bit of fun with their answers, anyway - I know I would have!

DalzielOrNoDalzielAndDontPascoe · 31/01/2025 08:27

Official or not, it's a red flag to me when any adult asks a 14yo what their sexual orientation is - which is basically a slightly politer way of asking "Whom do you like having/want to have sex with?"

By all means ask whom they are romantically attracted to - even whom they 'fancy' - but asking an underage child about their sex lives is highly concerning.

denhaag · 31/01/2025 08:25

@sonnunny I've googled various things, but can't find what questionnaire you might be referring to. Do you have a link?
I don't recall my son telling me about it (he's nearly 16 and year 11 so maybe he didn't do one).

NewFriendlyLadybird · 31/01/2025 08:21

Littoralzone · 31/01/2025 08:03

How is that relevant?

Very relevant. People are getting worked up over something they do not know anything about. They’re just imagining stuff.

MixedClassBaby · 31/01/2025 08:18

It's likely the My Health My School survey,which is a national data capture and anonymous. It supports funding and allocation of resources. There are 'prefer not to say' options.

Parents should be informed and have the option to withdraw. There's a parent info section on the website.

MyLemonZebra · 31/01/2025 08:17

You don't seem to know very much about it and given all you have is your child's version of events why not call school and ask for their version of events. Then you can consider both sides and then decided if you want to complain...

Guinessandafire · 31/01/2025 08:14

Hwi · 31/01/2025 07:57

Bloody hell! Invasion of privacy! Complain! Find other parents who are unhappy and complain together, write to your MP, don't be quiet.
All this shit happens because people put up with it.
The other day I am going to my bank to withdraw cash, a decent amount. A teller says I have to fill the form (!!!!!!) - after I paid taxes on it - it is none of their business. 'What are you planning to spend the money on?' I filled it in 'on sex workers and dope, to have a good time'.
Don't be timid, no point. Tell your child to fill in 'invasion of privacy'.

I assume you are being sarcastic with this post?

NotbloodyGivingupYet · 31/01/2025 08:13

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"Go Karen" ... Oh dear.

Littoralzone · 31/01/2025 08:13

CurlewKate · 31/01/2025 08:05

@Littoralzone "Would you say the same if they were encouraged to ignore other answer options?"

I don't understand. I see nothing wrong with saying "Try to answer every question- the more data the survey gets the better"After all, we do want to tackle young people's mental health and bullying, don't we?

All I'm saying is it's always important to check what was actually said.

The reason why ‘prefer not to say’ is in the survey are it is required in order for the survey to be ethical. To let young people know they do not need to share information they might be uncomfortable sharing. Telling them they must through emotional manipulation (suggesting they are responsible for bullying and mental health) is bullying and undermines their mental health as well as the survey itself.

Hoardasurass · 31/01/2025 08:13

Be grateful that it wasn't the Scottish government's 1 as that asks about sex, sexual acts and rape and sexual abuse with no care or counselling for traumatised children who are expected to disclose the csa that they've endured in class and then get straight back to work

Orland0 · 31/01/2025 08:11

Silvertulips · 31/01/2025 07:25

It’s a national survey. Do you not see the result highlights every year? How else are they supposed to gather information for planning?

I just feel his privacy has been really invaded and he doesn’t know himself whether he’s is straight/gay or whatever

He does know, so do you! Being gay isn’t a choice or lifestyle option. It’s who they are.

No, it’s only one facet of who they are. And while some know from a very young age they’re gay, others take a lot longer to figure it out. He’s 14! I know I didn’t have my sexuality figured out a that age.

Guinessandafire · 31/01/2025 08:09

Newfoundzestforlife · 31/01/2025 07:41

Flagging non existant issues and offering "support" that isn't needed is problematic.
They're just prying and carrying out their trendy agenda.

Hello Mr President, have you not got other things to do?

Littoralzone · 31/01/2025 08:07

sonnunny · 31/01/2025 08:04

@Littoralzone pretty bloody obvious, as those of us who work in safeguarding know exactly what is asked and how the data is used. So much misinformation in this post

It is not relevant what the survey says because the same principles hold true regardless of the questions.

Those of you who work in safeguarding should know that you should not be coercing children to share intimate details about themselves they are not comfortable sharing. That they are entitled to say ‘no’ and telling them otherwise is a safeguarding breach in itself.

CurlewKate · 31/01/2025 08:05

@Littoralzone "Would you say the same if they were encouraged to ignore other answer options?"

I don't understand. I see nothing wrong with saying "Try to answer every question- the more data the survey gets the better"After all, we do want to tackle young people's mental health and bullying, don't we?

All I'm saying is it's always important to check what was actually said.

sonnunny · 31/01/2025 08:05

@Littoralzone have you seen it ?

sonnunny · 31/01/2025 08:04

@Littoralzone pretty bloody obvious, as those of us who work in safeguarding know exactly what is asked and how the data is used. So much misinformation in this post

Littoralzone · 31/01/2025 08:03

sonnunny · 31/01/2025 08:02

How many of you commenting have actually seen this questionnaire ?

How is that relevant?

Littoralzone · 31/01/2025 08:03

user1492757084 · 31/01/2025 08:01

Make not too much fuss about it.
And remind your child that they are free to use UNSURE as long as they've thought about the answer deeply.

Remind your child, they do not need to think about the answer deeply, they can opt out of the whole survey or put ‘prefer not to answer’ without even reading the question if they want to.

sonnunny · 31/01/2025 08:02

How many of you commenting have actually seen this questionnaire ?

user1492757084 · 31/01/2025 08:01

Make not too much fuss about it.
And remind your child that they are free to use UNSURE as long as they've thought about the answer deeply.