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To spend more on my niece than my step child

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LittleLisaBlue · 30/01/2025 07:36

February is an expensive month for us. It's our DCs birthday (they will be 5), my niece's birthday who I'm very close with (also 5) and my step sons birthday later in the month (turning 14).

I end up paying the majority for our daughters birthdays and my husband excuses this by saying that it's "fair" because he pays the majority for DSS. Personally I disagree because DH has two children, so why should he not pay equally toward both of their birthdays but that's another thread. Obviously since DSS has started to get older his presents have started to get smaller but a hell of a lot more expensive. This year he wants a new phone but it means his old one getting paid off first at a few hundred and some other things.

As I said above I am very close to my niece and she's had a bit of a rough year the last year. This year for her birthday I have bought tickets for her to a day out she'll love and a couple of smaller things. All in all it came to about £120 (DH not put into any of this which i dont expect him to). I am also, as I said above, paying for about 70% of our child's birthday things which is equalling another couple of hundred when you include the party. DH is paying some toward it but not half.

We basically had a bit of an argument last night because I said I would get something for DSS that's about £20 but that would be all I'd be getting for him personally and DH will need to sort the rest as there is too much going on this month.

DH is pissed off because he thinks i should be spending £120 on DSS and £20 on my niece not the other way around. I disagree. He only wants me to start chipping in more now with DSS because he's getting more expensive. I dont always spend this much on my niece but we have separate finances and I wanted to this year.

I think if DH wants to spend hundreds on DSS he should work something out with his mum, not have a go at me for not paying half. They never talk or arrange things together so DSS ends up with two lots of presents all costing a huge amount, two birthday trips out again costing ££. I dont begrudge that but I also don't think it's my responsibility to pay for it because his parents dont want to organise things together. I get no say in what the present is, just expected to cough up a hefty contribution when I'm already paying a lot of money out this month for both our child and my niece.

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ThatCyanJoker · 03/02/2025 15:27

Am I the only one who wouldn’t feel it necessary to spend the same amount on a 5 year old as a 14 year old?
That said, your DH is being petty. I have stepkids and their dad always buys their gifts and makes it from both of us. If I see something (smallish) that I know my stepchild would like, I might buy it as an extra but the main gift is bought by Dad, but a gift from us both.

Xsxjxmx · 03/02/2025 15:16

LittleLisaBlue · 30/01/2025 07:55

Yes, he does also put that on DSS' presents too so the kids know no different.

It's between us that it's a sticking point.

It's not even to do with money, he has the money. He gets extremely defensive if he feels I'm not treating DSS well enough or like family enough.

So you get the credit for something you don't even want to contribute towards.
I feel sorry for the stepson

Xsxjxmx · 03/02/2025 15:13

You also say the parents should sort something together. But say they don't talk. So I image you know full well the reason why they don't talk and what you're saying is probably very unrealistic that they we become buddies to sort presents.
Having your parents separated is hard, but you're begrudginh that the kids gets two lots of presents. I'm sure he'd rather have one home and only his bio parents, especially when his step mother can't be arsed with him from the sounds of it

Xsxjxmx · 03/02/2025 15:09

thepariscrimefiles · 03/02/2025 12:32

You are annoyed with the OP for not going 50/50 on expensive presents for her step-son, but you haven't criticised OP's DH who is contributing only 30% of the value of the gifts for his own daughter with OP.

If OP is an 'evil stepmother', he is an 'evil father 'by your standards.

OP has known her niece since she was born and is very close to her.

I didn't call her an evil step mother, I said things like this is where that comes from.

And hell yea I'm annoyed at her attitude , what did the poor kid do to deserve to be treated like crap by the step parent he has no choice in having. She had a choice to not have him by not being with the father. I have kids that have had step parents and one of them was treated not dissimilar to this and it's heartbreaking breaking when your kid knows they are basically an inconvenience to the step parent.

She didn't question her husband not paying half, that wasn't what she was asking. And I said that I believe ALL gifts should be halved. If she wanted half he would probably give it. But he isn't throwing just a £20 gift at his child it's way more than that. He also I would imagine spends more on that child during the year, than his other child that appears to not live with them, which is another reason he probably spends more on the birthday gift. And if she didn't consult him on the cost of their daughter and she refuses to contribute to her step child's present he probably doesn't have enough for half. That isn't his fault. If she spends £300 on gifts and parties and expects half from hubby without consulting him but then he spends £150 on his son, and rightly so, and she won't contribute as she has the opinion of not my child, then 🤷‍♀️ that's actually more down to her actions. And yes she said he didn't consult her about the step sons gift, but why would he if he knows she won't contribute towards it.

I'm fiercely of the belief of treating ALL the kids the same, as they NEVER are the ones that chose their situation. I have a step child and 3 bio children, and I NEVER say I have 3 kids and a step child, I have 4 kids, I only explain it if asked. And I would not put up with my partner treating my older 2 kids like the neighbours kid because he isn't bloody related, once we moved in together he went on halves with all gifts.

CindereIIa · 03/02/2025 14:38

SnoopysHoose · 03/02/2025 14:09

@Swiftie1878 @CindereIIa
What about the DH who barely contributes towards his DD and leaves it to the OP?
Is OP the bad guy because she's a step mum?

He's awful too. Absolutely.

SnoopysHoose · 03/02/2025 14:09

@Swiftie1878 @CindereIIa
What about the DH who barely contributes towards his DD and leaves it to the OP?
Is OP the bad guy because she's a step mum?

CindereIIa · 03/02/2025 13:55

Diarygirlqueen · 03/02/2025 13:51

Totally nailed it, I can feel her disdain for the SS through the posts.

Also agree.

Diarygirlqueen · 03/02/2025 13:51

Swiftie1878 · 03/02/2025 12:17

This is a mess that is going to keep rearing its head because there’s a fundamental underlying problem and that is your relationship with your DSS and your DH’s perception of that relationship.
When you marry someone with kids, it’s a package deal. Even if you don’t ‘feel’ the connection to them as a step parent, you have to behave like they are a part of your family. £20 (compared to what you are spending elsewhere on gifts) is a slap in the chops for a step child. It screams ‘you’re not mine and you’re not important to me’. That is not right.

Totally nailed it, I can feel her disdain for the SS through the posts.

UnbeatenMum · 03/02/2025 13:44

Is the issue that you would usually spend a bit more on DSS and you're short because of a big spend on DN? Or is £20 usual but DSS wants something unusually expensive this year? I'm not sure £20 is that generous for a step child when you don't have joint finances, but on the other hand you could afford to be more generous if DH paid half for your twins. And DSS shouldn't have loads more spent than your DC, although there's a big age gap so they may get more spent on them when they're older. If you can get him to contribute 50% to your children and you contribute say 20 or 25% to DSS or a set amount this might work out better for you over the longer term as your girls grow up and need phones and laptops and things and DSS becomes an adult and needs less.

carconcerns · 03/02/2025 13:07

What a mess and how sad 😔

Can't believe there are households which function like this.

We have had a joint account and 9nly a joint account since before we were even married. Complete trust, complete transparency l, no hard feelings.

Why would you have separate money, will never understand it. Also, the children must pick up on it...

When I was A SAHM for several years I had no income and at birthdays and Christmas there would never be any mention of who'd paid for what - would be unthinkable.

... And yes, there was some blending with a non resident step-daughter.

pikkumyy77 · 03/02/2025 12:49

LittleLisaBlue · 30/01/2025 07:54

He has paid towards DDs birthday, but just not as much as me. I'd say about a 70/30 split. He thinks that's fair because he pays more every year for DSS so it's "equal". I completely disagree with that logic personally considering both of them are his kids!

I hate to say it but obviously he considers dd your pet, while DSS is the real child.

user1492757084 · 03/02/2025 12:47

You spend a lot on birthdays and your DD and DSS should feel very fortunate.
I don't see why you need to mention your niece's gift as it is your private discretionary spending and you don't often spend that much. Presumably you have scrimped and saved on other items for yourself to afford the gift this year.

It seems fair that you always contribute less than DH to your DSS's gifts. Fair also that you each pay 50% of your DD's gift and that you pay all of your niece's gift (and DH pays for all of his neice's gift)

Swiftie1878 · 03/02/2025 12:45

thepariscrimefiles · 03/02/2025 12:37

No comment on OP's DH contributing only 30% of the value of his own daughter's presents?

It screams 'you are the child of my second marriage and you're not as important to me as my child from my first marriage'. That's much worse than what you think OP is doing. She has no legal responsibility for her step-son (but does still contribute to his gifts), but her DH has a legal responsibility to his own daughter.

I’m answering the OP’s question. She asked about her gifts to niece and DSS, not my opinion of how she and her DH handle their finances around their own child.

In these situations it’s hard to know how much one person’s behaviour is a result of someone else’s e.g. does he spend a lot on his son because he knows his wife won’t bother (and perhaps he can’t rely on ex-wife either, or ex-wife doesn’t have the finances). I can only really comment on OPs actions here, as she has explained her thought process and admitted she doesn’t treat her DSS as part of her family. That’s just wrong.

SnoopysHoose · 03/02/2025 12:43

@Xsxjxmx
What is the DH here then if he thinks he shouldn't contribute equally to his OWN DD? don't put this all on OP.

thepariscrimefiles · 03/02/2025 12:37

Swiftie1878 · 03/02/2025 12:17

This is a mess that is going to keep rearing its head because there’s a fundamental underlying problem and that is your relationship with your DSS and your DH’s perception of that relationship.
When you marry someone with kids, it’s a package deal. Even if you don’t ‘feel’ the connection to them as a step parent, you have to behave like they are a part of your family. £20 (compared to what you are spending elsewhere on gifts) is a slap in the chops for a step child. It screams ‘you’re not mine and you’re not important to me’. That is not right.

No comment on OP's DH contributing only 30% of the value of his own daughter's presents?

It screams 'you are the child of my second marriage and you're not as important to me as my child from my first marriage'. That's much worse than what you think OP is doing. She has no legal responsibility for her step-son (but does still contribute to his gifts), but her DH has a legal responsibility to his own daughter.

thepariscrimefiles · 03/02/2025 12:32

Xsxjxmx · 03/02/2025 11:40

People behaving like you is how you get the "evil step mother" being a thing. You are a family! I get not combining finance's if you don't wish to, but personally with gifts it should be 50/50 for family members, is he not seen as uncle to your niece? £20 for your step son is tight as hell, especially for a 14 year old and shows him exactly what you think of him, that he isn't even as important as your niece.
I have a step child and he's bought exactly the same as my bio kids. I also have extended family that aren't actually family anymore as they are my ex's family, but I still buy presents for their bday and Xmas as we all get along and my partner happily contributes to that regardless of what it is.

You are annoyed with the OP for not going 50/50 on expensive presents for her step-son, but you haven't criticised OP's DH who is contributing only 30% of the value of the gifts for his own daughter with OP.

If OP is an 'evil stepmother', he is an 'evil father 'by your standards.

OP has known her niece since she was born and is very close to her.

CindereIIa · 03/02/2025 12:22

I will never understand choosing to have a kid with someone who already has kids. It's ALWAYS messy. I feel sorry for the stepson.

Swiftie1878 · 03/02/2025 12:17

This is a mess that is going to keep rearing its head because there’s a fundamental underlying problem and that is your relationship with your DSS and your DH’s perception of that relationship.
When you marry someone with kids, it’s a package deal. Even if you don’t ‘feel’ the connection to them as a step parent, you have to behave like they are a part of your family. £20 (compared to what you are spending elsewhere on gifts) is a slap in the chops for a step child. It screams ‘you’re not mine and you’re not important to me’. That is not right.

Toddlerteaplease · 03/02/2025 11:59

I wouldn't be buying a new phone, when the current one is still being paid for.

Xsxjxmx · 03/02/2025 11:40

People behaving like you is how you get the "evil step mother" being a thing. You are a family! I get not combining finance's if you don't wish to, but personally with gifts it should be 50/50 for family members, is he not seen as uncle to your niece? £20 for your step son is tight as hell, especially for a 14 year old and shows him exactly what you think of him, that he isn't even as important as your niece.
I have a step child and he's bought exactly the same as my bio kids. I also have extended family that aren't actually family anymore as they are my ex's family, but I still buy presents for their bday and Xmas as we all get along and my partner happily contributes to that regardless of what it is.

Crushgrape · 03/02/2025 10:20

I guess the main issue is that you’ve let DH get away with not splitting DD’s birthday 50-50? I don’t get why you should be paying 70% unless you are a much higher paid earner than him.

Littletink1 · 03/02/2025 10:09

I can't fathom how he thinks it's ok to not contribute equally to the child you share together, but wants you to contribute towards his own child who will then have 3 parents spending money but yours effectively only has one parent spending money. Crazy. I'd refuse until he actually contributes more to your shared child.

Truth25 · 03/02/2025 09:32

HereComesEverybody · 30/01/2025 07:46

Yet another blended' family mess. I just don't understand how people get themselves into these situations.

No man to me is worth it that much to deal with stuff like this. Dss isn't your child, you don't need to be treating him equally with gifts as long as you are buying him something. That's for his actual parents to sort out.

I wouldn't even feel bad about spending on my DN. Quite pathetic of him to be treating your dd so unfairly.

LittleOwl153 · 03/02/2025 09:27

I would say that until he contributes 50% of his daughters costs then there is no discussion to be had. He is favouring one child over the other and that is not good enough.

ForZanyAquaViewer · 03/02/2025 09:13

LittleLisaBlue · 30/01/2025 10:11

Money isn't "tight" it's just I've already spent a lot this month as it is. And he isn't even contributing equally to his own daughter.

He will say that's because I don't contribute equally to DSS but at the end of the day it's different, DD only has me and DH. DSS has a mother that DH could discuss sharing costs with it he wanted to. I dont think DSS needs 3 adults all spending a lot of money on his birthday. He has a mum and dad to buy his presents, DD has a mum and dad to buy hers and I also have a niece to buy for too.

I'm not lying. I've said all this to him.

What’s his response when you say this to him?