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To be astounded at this behaviour from an 18 year old.

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123dontcomeatme · 30/01/2025 06:12

I'm awake and just trying to get my head around this. I'm middle aged and just reeling from the behaviour of this 18 year old boy.

My daughters first boyfriend, been together just over a year. Seemed nice enough but a few worrying traits which she would talk about with me over the year. Enough to be worries but not enough to end what was a fun relationship.

After a rough 2 months with him, she's had enough and ended things with him.

Hes not taken it well, it's a bit scary.

Hes found me on Instagram and sent me 2 messages telling me it's my fault and that I'm pathetic and a host of other insults.

My daughter is aghast and I'm just struggling to get my head around such unhinged behaviour. I cannot ever imagine anyone doing such a thing. How on earth can he think that's an acceptable thing to do.

I feel so sad for my daughter too and want to support her in the best way possible, but she's furious and dumbstruck and upset all at the same time.

I just can't get my head around the arrogance, entitlement and total disrespectful of an 18, nearly 19 year old boy thinking that's ok.

OP posts:
JandamiHash · 30/01/2025 14:12

What an horrible little snot rag he sounds. And they say women are the crazy ones!

My first boyfriend stalked me at the age of 18 after I dumped him, the police got involved but this was back when it wasn’t taken that seriously. Young relationships are SO intense and no more so than when a male gets the boot.

Just support your DD and make sure she ain’t guilted into getting back with him or meeting up with him out of pity

ERthree · 30/01/2025 14:12

Behaviour like this is so common and the consequence of children never being told no and always told they are, having their every whim being pandered to and never learning right from wrong.

jenesaispaspourquoi · 30/01/2025 14:07

WarmthAndDepth · 30/01/2025 07:44

Another thing, if your DD and this person share a social circle, she shouldn't fall into the trap of thinking she should not speak about what's happened in some misguided attempt at 'protecting his dignity' or 'keeping it between themselves'. That way, if he should somehow manage to get under her skin again, there will be nobody to support her.

This is such a good point

Simplynotsimple · 30/01/2025 14:07

jenesaispaspourquoi · 30/01/2025 14:01

You are wholly wrong. He may not "move on." And if he chooses not to what's his next step? Harassing the girl in person, more threats, violence?

And it was repeated calls ie harassing her not just calling a couple of times.

Agree with this. And it’s not even about if he moves on or not, what about the effect this has had on the OP’s daughter? For him it’s acting out in a moment of hurt. For her, this is the first experience she’ll have of a man showing frightening behaviour when told no. She will carry this with her for the rest of her life. In her next relationship she could well be wary, and may carry it on longer than necessary because she’s worried about the reaction for ending it. She’ll always know that worry of how a man reacted to her setting a boundary.

The op is right to stand up for her daughter and show men like this face consequences, and he needs to know those consequences so the OP’s daughter’s experience isn’t another young woman’s experience in waiting.

PassingStranger · 30/01/2025 14:06

Alwaysplayspicc · 30/01/2025 10:10

We had a very similar experience with my DS’s ex girlfriend.
After he finished with her, she sent messages to me on IG, telling me I needed to sort him out.
To cut a long story short, we discovered that in the time they’d been together, she had been coercive and controlling - demanding his social media log ins which she used to contact any female friends he had, cat phishing them as him, threatening female friends, contacting our DD to say she wasn’t happy about certain IG profiles DS was following etc.
If he added female friends on IG, she contacted them to warn them off and demanded screen shots of their conversations with DS.

Things rapidly escalated after he finished with her - she set up anonymous IG accounts to stalk me and DD, she used multiple burner phones to contact DS (pretending to be other people), she hacked his emails and social media accounts and then she went into his UCAS account and withdrew all his conservatoire applications the day after the submission deadline.

We went to the police and they logged every incident, recording the complaint as coercive controlling behaviour, stalking and harassment, and misuse of a computer.
Unfortunatrly, the days of the police being able to visit someone for a quiet word are past - now, they have to fully investigate complaints.
DS was going through auditions and A levels at the time and I was diagnosed with cancer in the middle of it all, so we chose to have it logged with the option to action the complaint if things continued.

She was withdrawn from their school this time last year (they were both boarders).
A couple of weeks ago, he was with his new girlfriend and was seen (he thinks) by his ex.
Within hours his FB account had been hacked.

OP, please contact the police. They will take it seriously and will log it as a complaint, which can be added to with every new incident and you can choose to action it either immediately or within 6 months.

What does Facebook account hacked mean, how does she know what to do?
Yes people are worse than ever now.
People don't do themselves any favours, they are controlling and nasty, so they get dumped, then they can't handle it and get nasty.
How can anyone win, just be nice.

Avoid relationships also if you know your a nasty bit of work.
It's not happiness

The crossbow one. If he'd been nicer to her she wouldn't have ended it.
Disgusting that they all lost their lives.
He is now in prison and in a wheelchair was it worth it.

maddening · 30/01/2025 14:04

Brefugee · 30/01/2025 13:18

Don't mither another woman with this adult man's begmhaviour.

OP and her daughter Both need to report 5his

I said parents - assume he has a father - opening the eyes of people close to him who could help him dial back - he is an adult but a young adult and like the op can support her adult dd those parents can possibly give their son a reality check without the need to escalate. It also means he can't go there for sympathy.

jenesaispaspourquoi · 30/01/2025 14:01

OneBadKitty · 30/01/2025 07:10

I think it's ridiculous to call the police because a teenager who is feeling hurt sent you a message on instagram and tried to call his girlfriend who dumped him. This is not dangerous behaviour, it's the behaviour of a young man who is feeling rejected, hurt and experiencing the loss of a relationship for the first time.

Just block him and don't respond. Unless he's threatening to harm you then calling the police is an over-reaction and MN often advise this for minor things which in reality are not going to get any action from the police. He'll get over it and move on no doubt.

You are wholly wrong. He may not "move on." And if he chooses not to what's his next step? Harassing the girl in person, more threats, violence?

And it was repeated calls ie harassing her not just calling a couple of times.

jenesaispaspourquoi · 30/01/2025 13:55

Itsnotallaboutyoulikeyouthink · 30/01/2025 06:51

Why are you or your daughter even entertaining this. Just block and move on. He’s pissed off, and has an avenue to message you something we never had when we were young. You’ll prob never hear from him
agaiin after this event.

Who has written this? Are you a male? I completely disagree and this makes me angry actually, suggesting they roll over and let the odious little shit proceed unchallenged. These behaviours are the thin end of the wedge and should be dealt with (by police) otherwise he will only escalate - either with the OP's DD or the next woman.

PassingStranger · 30/01/2025 13:50

Keep yourselves safe.
Tell her not to let him.in the house if she on her own.
Read up on Ellie Gould 17 2019 case in Wiltshire please.

Hedgingmybetching · 30/01/2025 13:46

I also agree to log this with the police now, do not let it escalate. If he's threatening his girlfriend's Mum that is pretty fucking unhinged and needs to be taken very seriously. Xx

September1013 · 30/01/2025 13:41

Please report this to the police. This is the beginning of a pattern of behaviour by him that will escalate if left unchecked - potentially as far as murder. If you make a police report there is evidence to support his future victims and more chance of him being stopped.

Google statistics on intimate partner homicide in the UK if you need any more convincing.

Margorett · 30/01/2025 13:37

FedupMum2024 · 30/01/2025 06:27

Nasty little bastard.
Do you not have a male relative who can sort this one out for you?

and what do you suggest the male relative does ???

Oreosareawful · 30/01/2025 13:23

Definitely go to the police with this, he won't get arrested at this stage, but he will get a talking too.

When I was 19 I dumped my controlling, possessive boyfriend and he hit the roof. He messaged me, left voicemails and started turning up in places where he knew I would be.
My parents house was up for sale at the time, and he was seen looking through the windows- presumably to check if we were still living there as I'd cut off all contact.

My parents encouraged me to report him for harassment and he was called into the station. I had given them evidence of texts and voicemails. The police gave him a stern talking too, and told him under no circumstances was he to contact me again.

It went quiet for several years, but through a friend forwarding a funny email to him, others and myself he managed to get my email address and messaged me.
I was much stronger at that point and told him myself that I would have him arrested if he so much as looked at me in the street.

I've never heard from him again.

penelopelondon · 30/01/2025 13:23

This young man fits the profile of dangerous psychopath. He's controlling, abusive, narcissistic, entitled, angry, lacks boundaries and any empathy. Record evidence of his stalking/harassment and go to police asap, you and your daughter are in danger.

Liveandletlive18 · 30/01/2025 13:22

maddening · 30/01/2025 12:49

Forward the messages to his parents and tell him and them that any further contact will result in a report of harassment to the police.

This too.

CherryVanillaPie · 30/01/2025 13:21

Is this sort of thing becoming more common or are we just hearing about it more? It's worrying behaviour.

Liveandletlive18 · 30/01/2025 13:21

YouDeserveBetterSoAskForIt · 30/01/2025 06:24

I would be quite concerned actually and would be saying if he contacts either of you again you will be filing a police report for harassment.

I think giving him a bit of a scare is necessary as clearly he enjoys and thinks it's okay to harass and bully women.

Young men are extremely entitled these days. Social media red pill influences don't help one bit.

Definitely this with bells on OP

Brefugee · 30/01/2025 13:19

Birthdaycakewithwine · 30/01/2025 12:57

Not all young men are entitled!

FFS. Nobody said that.

Brefugee · 30/01/2025 13:18

maddening · 30/01/2025 12:49

Forward the messages to his parents and tell him and them that any further contact will result in a report of harassment to the police.

Don't mither another woman with this adult man's begmhaviour.

OP and her daughter Both need to report 5his

Brefugee · 30/01/2025 13:16

JoyousGreyOrca · 30/01/2025 12:48

@Hotflushesandchilblains I advised doing nothing at the moment except screenshotting messages and blocking him, not because I am not taking this seriously. But because the police are unlikely to do anything. Certainly where I live they simply record and give you a crime number for all but the most serious crimes. If you live somewhere where the police will take this seriously, then sure report it.

Dangerous twaddle

Birthdaycakewithwine · 30/01/2025 12:57

YouDeserveBetterSoAskForIt · 30/01/2025 06:24

I would be quite concerned actually and would be saying if he contacts either of you again you will be filing a police report for harassment.

I think giving him a bit of a scare is necessary as clearly he enjoys and thinks it's okay to harass and bully women.

Young men are extremely entitled these days. Social media red pill influences don't help one bit.

Not all young men are entitled!

OOOtil2025 · 30/01/2025 12:54

123dontcomeatme · 30/01/2025 06:33

No male relative, single parent household.

It's really nasty, he was being really horrible tp her last night, he phoned her 25 times over the space of about 10 mins. She text him to stop and said she wasn't going to pick up, that's when he started messaging me.

She didn't dump him via text, but said to him they needed to talk about their relationship at the weekend. And then he went unhinged.

The calls were on top of the texts telling her to ' be a man and just fucking do it'

I'm so angry at him and horrified that he could speak to her like this. Then for him to start on me!

She said she couldn't meet him in person now as he doesn't feel safe.

I read all the time about male aggression towards women, but I am shocked by this.

Don’t wait. Or threaten. Make a police report now - even if they just give him a warning. He’s a nasty little prick who deserves a jolt to stop this behaviour which is stalking and completely unacceptable.

JoyousGreyOrca · 30/01/2025 12:53

@TheFormidableMrsC Fine, Op can report it to the police and hope her local police take it seriously.

Ohyay · 30/01/2025 12:52

123dontcomeatme · 30/01/2025 06:12

I'm awake and just trying to get my head around this. I'm middle aged and just reeling from the behaviour of this 18 year old boy.

My daughters first boyfriend, been together just over a year. Seemed nice enough but a few worrying traits which she would talk about with me over the year. Enough to be worries but not enough to end what was a fun relationship.

After a rough 2 months with him, she's had enough and ended things with him.

Hes not taken it well, it's a bit scary.

Hes found me on Instagram and sent me 2 messages telling me it's my fault and that I'm pathetic and a host of other insults.

My daughter is aghast and I'm just struggling to get my head around such unhinged behaviour. I cannot ever imagine anyone doing such a thing. How on earth can he think that's an acceptable thing to do.

I feel so sad for my daughter too and want to support her in the best way possible, but she's furious and dumbstruck and upset all at the same time.

I just can't get my head around the arrogance, entitlement and total disrespectful of an 18, nearly 19 year old boy thinking that's ok.

Hi OP
Police here. I occassionally pop up to offer advice when I feel its needed.
I would call 101 and advise them of whats been going on. Unfortunately this behaviour often escalates or can be a gateway for further offences down the line.
Whilst teen heartbreak is tough his response is not acceptable. He has continued to message your daughter and yourself therefore he has committed two crimes of harrassment.
Neither of you need to give a statement. It can be reported and closed without him speaking to if you wish. I always advise to report as if things escalate the situation is time stamped and he cant accuse you of making up historical reports.
Screenshot all messages these will ensure they are time stamped on your device.
If he turns up at the address / approaches your daughter in public and she feels intimidated call 999.

Please take care.

MissRoseDurward · 30/01/2025 12:51

Forward the messages to his parents

FGS. He is an adult!!!!