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To remind you to check your pension contributions before April 2025.

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AlisonWhatIsTheMatter · 29/01/2025 20:16

I’ve checked mine and even though I was advised to contract out of SERPS in the late 80s, (currently resting in Phoenix Life) I’m not missing any years of contributions ( I think) my forecast on GOV.UK states I cannot improve my forecast anymore.

I was reminded to check again last night after watching Martin Lewis.

Just a reminder to check your contributions before April 2025 otherwise you might not get another chance to ‘plug in’ any gaps.

I’ve attached my GOV.UK forecast so you can compare what yours states.

If only retirement age was still at 60! I’d have 5 years to go. 😩

To remind you to check your pension contributions before April 2025.
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BashfulClam · 29/01/2025 22:12

I have a shortage in 1998/99 but I was at college and not employed. Although it does say as long as I have 4 more full years I’ll get my full pension.

rainbowunicorn · 29/01/2025 22:12

SpunkyAmberReader · 29/01/2025 22:10

Do you need to do anything to get access to the pension forecast?

Follow the link in the OP you will need to register for a government gateway account and then you will.have access to everything.

Likewhatever · 29/01/2025 22:12

I was missing a few years due to unexpectedly taking early retirement. Also I fall into the WASPI group.

I paid £4,800ish to make up the gaps, I’ll make that up in 2 ½ years. From then on I’ll be better off. Definitely worth doing.

Blinkingbonkers · 29/01/2025 22:11

So - it seems to be telling me that I have 13 years left to pay to get to the full amount BUT I have another 21 years before I hit 68 (& I plan to work) so there’s not much point me paying to make up the missed 5 years at this point - am I right?! Thanks….. I’ve been worrying about this for ages so am really grateful you signposted this @AlisonWhatIsTheMatter !

rainbowunicorn · 29/01/2025 22:10

LuluBlakey1 · 29/01/2025 22:03

So surely it is better to have your full years completed as soon as you can complete them- then, as you get older you can choose to work part-time or retire early with a private pension knowing you have a full-state pension contribution paid already when you reach the required age?

Not really as the chances are you would end up paying more than you need to. It would be better to pay class 3 at a later date than back fill a year that you might never have needed.

SpunkyAmberReader · 29/01/2025 22:10

Do you need to do anything to get access to the pension forecast?

rainbowunicorn · 29/01/2025 22:09

Charlize43 · 29/01/2025 21:58

I assume if you already have the required 35 years of contribution it would be totally pointless purchasing any missing years, however recent?

I was made redundant during Covid so my recent record is patchy with missing years.

You would need to check your forecast depending on when you started paying NI it could be more or less than 35 years. If your forecast says you cant increase the forecast anymore then you have enough years. If not it will tell you how many more you need.

SpunkyAmberReader · 29/01/2025 22:08

Why April 2025?

PartyOFive · 29/01/2025 22:06

It is the vast numbers of people who do not work, who live on benefits, contribute nothing to the state and leech money out of it who create our issues with the state pension. We can not keep carrying these people.

There are many reasons for our pension problem but I think the main one is people are living longer, so they are receiving their pension for longer. I would need to look up to confirm but since pensions form a large majority of our benefits bill I suspect pensioners are the largest group of welfare recipients in the country. I'm happy to keep carrying these people.

rainbowunicorn · 29/01/2025 22:05

Changingnameagain · 29/01/2025 21:54

Thanks for this OP.

I've just checked mine.
I have 4 payable gaps but the forecast says I will get the max amount per week £220.21 so is there any point paying the gaps? They're a lot of money that I don't have lying about.

If you pay contributions for another 19 years then you will get the full amount. If you were to never pay another NI in your life from this moment on you would get the £106 shown in the screenshot. The amount as it stands will increase with each year you pay NI up to the max. Once you have paid enough years it will say you can't increase your forecast anymore.

hamsandyams · 29/01/2025 22:04

Temporaryname158 · 29/01/2025 20:34

I wish I’d known of this in my 20’s I have my 3 years at university incomplete. Why do they cut it off? Why can’t you pay in for missing years further back? I wish I could.

Missing contributions in your 20s shouldn’t matter, as even at 30 you would expect to have at least 35 working years left to make up the contributions - I knew and didn’t bother topping up as I’ll get enough years anyway so it would have been a waste.

LuluBlakey1 · 29/01/2025 22:03

weirdoboelady · 29/01/2025 21:59

I disagree with your advice. The poster is only in their 30's.

You seem to be assuming that pension deductions from your salary - NI contributions - stop when you have completed 35 years' worth of contributions. This is not correct, NI deductions will continue until you reach state pension age (under current rules). If you top up your previous years and you are suddenly unable to work for evermore, it might affect your pension positively. If you continue to work until you are 67, 68 or whatever random ridiculous age the government decides by the time you get there, your partly funded years won't matter at all unless you have not got 35 (or however many years it is by then) fully funded years.

So surely it is better to have your full years completed as soon as you can complete them- then, as you get older you can choose to work part-time or retire early with a private pension knowing you have a full-state pension contribution paid already when you reach the required age?

weirdoboelady · 29/01/2025 22:00

Charlize43 · 29/01/2025 21:58

I assume if you already have the required 35 years of contribution it would be totally pointless purchasing any missing years, however recent?

I was made redundant during Covid so my recent record is patchy with missing years.

I think that's the whole point of the OP's website link - the website will answer this question for you! (My understanding is that you are correct, but why not check?)

rainbowunicorn · 29/01/2025 22:00

Saracen · 29/01/2025 21:50

Yes, that means you don't have to (and can't) do anything right now. There are no missing years which you are able to top up right now.

It doesn't mean you will definitely get the full state pension, even if the law remains unchanged. It does mean that you are on track to get full state pension, either by working enough years in future or buying extra years in future. Count up the number of full years in your record to see whether you already have 35, or if not, how many more years you'd need to work in order to reach 35.

If you don't end up working enough years to get the full state pension, you'll want to consider buying extra years. But that isn't something you are able to do in advance.

This is not correct advice as the pp has built up years before 2016. The 35 years only applies to people who started paying NI from 2016. If her forecast says she can't increase the forecast anymore then she has enough qualifying years already. People who were already paying NI before 2016 had a recalculation done when the new state pension came in. Some needed less and some needed more than 35 years depending on their circumstances.

weirdoboelady · 29/01/2025 21:59

LuluBlakey1 · 29/01/2025 21:45

Yes because if you complete them they will count towards the number you need a full contribution from to get a full pension- currently 33 full contribution years- so you'll have 14 complete years and 19 complete years still to pay. If you don't complete them you them, you will have 9 years that count and 24 to pay full contributions from. Surely it is worth paying an extra £800 for a full year than starting again from nothing to pay full years?

I disagree with your advice. The poster is only in their 30's.

You seem to be assuming that pension deductions from your salary - NI contributions - stop when you have completed 35 years' worth of contributions. This is not correct, NI deductions will continue until you reach state pension age (under current rules). If you top up your previous years and you are suddenly unable to work for evermore, it might affect your pension positively. If you continue to work until you are 67, 68 or whatever random ridiculous age the government decides by the time you get there, your partly funded years won't matter at all unless you have not got 35 (or however many years it is by then) fully funded years.

Charlize43 · 29/01/2025 21:58

I assume if you already have the required 35 years of contribution it would be totally pointless purchasing any missing years, however recent?

I was made redundant during Covid so my recent record is patchy with missing years.

AQuickDeathInTexas · 29/01/2025 21:57

Not really because as long as she is working for the future years she will still have to pay NI contributions so will meet the criteria with what she is paying. No point paying for 1 past year if you still have plenty of years left to work and contribute.

I agree, you are potentially paying double

PartyOFive · 29/01/2025 21:57

LuluBlakey1 · 29/01/2025 21:45

Yes because if you complete them they will count towards the number you need a full contribution from to get a full pension- currently 33 full contribution years- so you'll have 14 complete years and 19 complete years still to pay. If you don't complete them you them, you will have 9 years that count and 24 to pay full contributions from. Surely it is worth paying an extra £800 for a full year than starting again from nothing to pay full years?

But you can't opt out of paying NICs, so you don't get any kind of benefit for "finishing" your 33 years early. And at 30 you have over 30 years to go before you can claim the pension anyway, so plenty of time to make up the 24 years needed. And policies can change within that time so I wouldn't say it's clearcut to pay the £800 per year. (As I understand it!) Personally if I was 30 and had some gaps I don't think I'd pay them,

LuluBlakey1 · 29/01/2025 21:55

I can see whatever government increasing state pension age to 70 in the next 10 years.
I can also see state pensions undergoing massive change so that they become means tested.

I don't think either will happen quickly. They have to give people a chance to prepare for those changes which takes years and will require a different approach to saving and investment for individuals so that they do not end up significantly worse off.

But it will come and it is a disgrace. We have amongst the very worst state pension levels in Europe and are one of the wealthiest countries. People pay into the state pension their whole working life- and it is 1/3rd of the minimum living wage. Many also pay into employment/private pensions to back up a basic living standard when they are pensioners.

It is the vast numbers of people who do not work, who live on benefits, contribute nothing to the state and leech money out of it who create our issues with the state pension. We can not keep carrying these people.

rainbowunicorn · 29/01/2025 21:54

LuluBlakey1 · 29/01/2025 21:45

Yes because if you complete them they will count towards the number you need a full contribution from to get a full pension- currently 33 full contribution years- so you'll have 14 complete years and 19 complete years still to pay. If you don't complete them you them, you will have 9 years that count and 24 to pay full contributions from. Surely it is worth paying an extra £800 for a full year than starting again from nothing to pay full years?

Not really because as long as she is working for the future years she will still have to pay NI contributions so will meet the criteria with what she is paying. No point paying for 1 past year if you still have plenty of years left to work and contribute.

Changingnameagain · 29/01/2025 21:54

Thanks for this OP.

I've just checked mine.
I have 4 payable gaps but the forecast says I will get the max amount per week £220.21 so is there any point paying the gaps? They're a lot of money that I don't have lying about.

To remind you to check your pension contributions before April 2025.
To remind you to check your pension contributions before April 2025.
AQuickDeathInTexas · 29/01/2025 21:51

Please don't just pay, if you're not 100% certain that you need to.

I phoned HMRC about this last week and was strongly advised not to pay my missing years until I'd spoken to someone at the Future Pensions department.

If you are likely to be working, and paying a stamp, for the full 35 years required then it's pointless paying for a few missing years. If you get to say 58 and you've paid all 35 you will still have to pay NI on your earnings. The deduction doesn't stop just because you've enough qualifying years for a state pension.

rainbowunicorn · 29/01/2025 21:51

mrsm43s · 29/01/2025 21:34

If one opted out of SERPS for 2 or 3 years early in ones career, but still have 35yrs + of full (non opted out) contributions, is full pension without deductions still payable?

It will say in your forecast if you have enough years. If you do then it will be paid at the rate of the New State Pension which will also be on the forecast. This obviously increases each year as well.

Newname85 · 29/01/2025 21:51

AlisonWhatIsTheMatter · 29/01/2025 20:44

I’m no financial advisor so hopefully someone will come along to advise you.

When is your retirement date?

I’m 43 next week.

Saracen · 29/01/2025 21:50

Karmaisagod · 29/01/2025 21:15

Thank you for sharing this, OP. If I get the same message as you, with the same amount and line "You cannot improve your forecast any more", does it mean I don't need to do anything? My retirement year is 3 before you.

Yes, that means you don't have to (and can't) do anything right now. There are no missing years which you are able to top up right now.

It doesn't mean you will definitely get the full state pension, even if the law remains unchanged. It does mean that you are on track to get full state pension, either by working enough years in future or buying extra years in future. Count up the number of full years in your record to see whether you already have 35, or if not, how many more years you'd need to work in order to reach 35.

If you don't end up working enough years to get the full state pension, you'll want to consider buying extra years. But that isn't something you are able to do in advance.

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