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To remind you to check your pension contributions before April 2025.

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AlisonWhatIsTheMatter · 29/01/2025 20:16

I’ve checked mine and even though I was advised to contract out of SERPS in the late 80s, (currently resting in Phoenix Life) I’m not missing any years of contributions ( I think) my forecast on GOV.UK states I cannot improve my forecast anymore.

I was reminded to check again last night after watching Martin Lewis.

Just a reminder to check your contributions before April 2025 otherwise you might not get another chance to ‘plug in’ any gaps.

I’ve attached my GOV.UK forecast so you can compare what yours states.

If only retirement age was still at 60! I’d have 5 years to go. 😩

To remind you to check your pension contributions before April 2025.
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AlisonWhatIsTheMatter · 30/01/2025 18:47

*you can

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AlisonWhatIsTheMatter · 30/01/2025 18:47

grace2025 · 30/01/2025 18:42

Oh right that's interesting. You have to go into the NI record. In answer to my own question yes the years I was SAHM are listed as full. My years at uni are not full and there's a year of transition 1991 not full but 39 years are full so that's good if I've understood it correctly . Thanks OP

I believe so @grace2025. if it states you can’t improve your forecast anymore then you’ve done all we can, although it does sting a little, knowing that I will continue to pay the same contributions with no benefit to my pension as it’s full.

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grace2025 · 30/01/2025 18:42

Oh right that's interesting. You have to go into the NI record. In answer to my own question yes the years I was SAHM are listed as full. My years at uni are not full and there's a year of transition 1991 not full but 39 years are full so that's good if I've understood it correctly . Thanks OP

lindyloo57 · 30/01/2025 18:37

I'm 65 this year so I get my pension in January 2027 but I have to pay £8000 to get a full pension , I worked part time mostly, thats a lot of money most of my savings, I worry if its worth it

Panham · 30/01/2025 18:37

Also don’t forget your death in service beneficiaries. Have you still get your exhusband on there if so he will get it and there’s nothing you can do. Check now that it will go to the right person.

grace2025 · 30/01/2025 18:35

I just checked mine OP with your link(thanks) and it's exactly the same as yours/ what does that mean is it the full pension?

Dweetfidilove · 30/01/2025 18:32

rainbowunicorn · 30/01/2025 18:29

No, you only have to pay in for 6 years between now and 2049 it's unlikely that you won't manage it. If you work for 6 years out of the next 24 you will pay the NI to give you full years. If you pay the missing year now and work for more than 6 years out of the next 24 you will have paid more than you need. You still pay NI even after you reach your maximum forecast so it would make no sense to buy that year now unless you plan to only work 5 years out of the next 24.

Thank you 😊.

grace2025 · 30/01/2025 18:31

Do they automatically pay for the child rearing years at home or do you have to contact them does anyone know?

rainbowunicorn · 30/01/2025 18:29

Dweetfidilove · 30/01/2025 17:40

I have 1 incomplete year, 2006 - paid 49/52 weeks. My retirement year is 2049, and it says I need to pay 6 more years to qualify for the full pension.
Is there any point in plugging my gap?
How do I work out how much it is to plug the gap?

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No, you only have to pay in for 6 years between now and 2049 it's unlikely that you won't manage it. If you work for 6 years out of the next 24 you will pay the NI to give you full years. If you pay the missing year now and work for more than 6 years out of the next 24 you will have paid more than you need. You still pay NI even after you reach your maximum forecast so it would make no sense to buy that year now unless you plan to only work 5 years out of the next 24.

Boxoo · 30/01/2025 17:49

redfishcat · 30/01/2025 17:17

I agree with @lulubakery,

I am almost at the paid in full, and that is some 8 years before I get my state pension, but the sheer joy of knowing all my stamps are pre paid and I can safely reduce hours or even take a very long summer break that is unpaid . It is a very important and stress reducing thing to do,

Can you imagine having to work that last year or two when totally worn out ?

I think it makes sense for people closing in on retirement I agree. But for 30 year olds now who might not even get a state pension? You say imagine having to work the last few years being knackered. But imagine paying a few thousand pounds and getting nothing back from it when they remove the state pension before you get there.

As it says on the gateway page. This is the amount you will receive “under current laws”. They could take it away in a heartbeat unfortunately. No one is guaranteed a state pension.

Dweetfidilove · 30/01/2025 17:40

I have 1 incomplete year, 2006 - paid 49/52 weeks. My retirement year is 2049, and it says I need to pay 6 more years to qualify for the full pension.
Is there any point in plugging my gap?
How do I work out how much it is to plug the gap?

redfishcat · 30/01/2025 17:17

I agree with @lulubakery,

I am almost at the paid in full, and that is some 8 years before I get my state pension, but the sheer joy of knowing all my stamps are pre paid and I can safely reduce hours or even take a very long summer break that is unpaid . It is a very important and stress reducing thing to do,

Can you imagine having to work that last year or two when totally worn out ?

Morph22010 · 30/01/2025 12:35

LuluBlakey1 · 29/01/2025 22:03

So surely it is better to have your full years completed as soon as you can complete them- then, as you get older you can choose to work part-time or retire early with a private pension knowing you have a full-state pension contribution paid already when you reach the required age?

No it’s not unless you know you are definately not going to be working. Once you get to the 35 years you still carry on paying ni contributions if you are working it just has no effect on your pension so if you paid voluntary earlier on that was a waste of money.

Mummabear04 · 30/01/2025 12:25

PartyOFive · 29/01/2025 23:39

Agree with rainbowunicorn you should check your statement but a few things that might help with getting head round it.

If the gaps you mention are pre 2006 then you won't be able to pay extra to fill them after April 2025. From then on you will only be able to pay for gaps within the last six years.

However, you may not need to pay the gaps. Your statement will tell you how many more years of contributions you need to reach the maximum state pension amount. It will also tell you the date at which you can claim state pension. (Under the current rules which may of course change).

If you have many more working years ahead of you and not many contributions needed for the full pension then it's probably not worth you plugging any gaps. If you had just a few years until you can claim state pension, and hadn't yet reached the full amount according to your statement, then it might be worth paying to plug those gaps.

So based just on your age and that you have only a few gaps, it seems likely that you don't need to pay to fill them. But take a look at the statement :)

Thank you so much for explaining, I really appreciate it ❤️

rainbowunicorn · 30/01/2025 09:47

SleepToad · 30/01/2025 09:39

Yes I've checked hence knowing that HMRC haven't updated the records.

I know I know I put it in a private pension. Which was a defined benefit scheme which would have paid me £7,500 a year if I wasn't financially educated and moved to a personal pension. So not a great move doing that, as the defined scheme also deducts my state pension when I get it!!

But it's the fact that I will potentially work for 51 years and still not get a full pension that rankles.

You shouldn't have anything deducted from your state pension for having a defined benefit pension though? Unless I am misunderstanding what you mean. I am not sure what you mean about the defined benefit and private scheme. Did you originally contract out to a defined benefit and then transfer out to a defined contribution?
I would certainly chase up why your most recent 3 years haven't been reported. If you have wage slips, proof of benefits or self employed books it should be an easy fix.

SleepToad · 30/01/2025 09:39

rainbowunicorn · 29/01/2025 22:39

Have you actually checked your forecast. SERPs was in relation to the 2nd state pension which doesn't exist for current workers. The new state pension is what you will get. Your forecast will tell you what you are at just now amd how many more years to get the full amount. Opting put of the second state pension just meant that you paid the money to a private / workplace pension so the amount that you would have got in second state pension will come from your private/ workplace arrangement.

Yes I've checked hence knowing that HMRC haven't updated the records.

I know I know I put it in a private pension. Which was a defined benefit scheme which would have paid me £7,500 a year if I wasn't financially educated and moved to a personal pension. So not a great move doing that, as the defined scheme also deducts my state pension when I get it!!

But it's the fact that I will potentially work for 51 years and still not get a full pension that rankles.

rainbowunicorn · 30/01/2025 09:38

LumpyandBumps · 30/01/2025 09:03

@rainbowunicorn
Thank you so much for all of your help on this thread.
Until your explanations here I couldn’t understand why my 39 qualifying years still left me 6 years short of a full pension. Now I understand that they were recalculated. It seems like a huge reduction in my case but I assume it’s because I was always contracted out.

Yes, that is correct. Whe you would have first started working and contributing there was state pension and then the additional second state pension. What you were contracted out of was the second state pension. The idea being that what uou contributed to your employers pension would be worth as much as or more than the second state pension. You would have paid less NI during the time you were opted out. When the new state pension came unto effect for anyone retiring after 2016 a recalculation was done at that point to give you the number of years you needed. The new state pension is paid at a higher rate than the old so more contribution years are needed to get it in full.

LumpyandBumps · 30/01/2025 09:03

@rainbowunicorn
Thank you so much for all of your help on this thread.
Until your explanations here I couldn’t understand why my 39 qualifying years still left me 6 years short of a full pension. Now I understand that they were recalculated. It seems like a huge reduction in my case but I assume it’s because I was always contracted out.

AQuickDeathInTexas · 30/01/2025 08:48

Chances are most people who are in work, or are claiming benefits, and have worked or claimed since leaving education wont need to top up with voluntary contributions.

People who might have gaps would be those who have worked very part-time, people who have worked abroad, or those who have had spells where they're not working or caring for someone or claiming benefits.

A missing year is just over £820 if you feel you need to pay it, preferably before this April, but don't leave it until too near the deadline.

Spicykitten · 30/01/2025 08:41

LuluBlakey1 · 29/01/2025 22:03

So surely it is better to have your full years completed as soon as you can complete them- then, as you get older you can choose to work part-time or retire early with a private pension knowing you have a full-state pension contribution paid already when you reach the required age?

I suppose, but if you claim certain benefits e.g. ESA and Child Benefit, then you’ll get stamps towards your NI record too

rainbowunicorn · 30/01/2025 08:21

Isthisexpected · 30/01/2025 01:11

It does. So let's say it says 11 years, and I have 18 to go then it doesn't make sense to top up, right? But what I'm suggesting is, is it worth topping up in case the goalposts are changed and suddenly it's 20 years I need to get the full amount?

That's very much an individual decision. You can pay class 3 NI if you don't work. Don't forget that many benefits would give you your credits as well. The only thing that is changing is the number if years that you can pay back. If for example you found yourself short on any future years you could back pay for the previous 6 years. Given all of the above, then no I wouldn't because if you do keep working and contributing you would end up paying more than you need to.

AlisonWhatIsTheMatter · 30/01/2025 08:09

DustyLee123 · 30/01/2025 07:36

Just checked mine and I retire same year as you, but be aware that it states we may get pushed back a year yet.

Nothing would surprise me!

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Neededa · 30/01/2025 08:08

Martin Lewis has an article about this on money saving expert which is worth reading.
if you are likely to reach your 35 years (current legislation) because you will work 35 years it’s probably not worth it. Unless you have cheap partial years which might be worth it.
He very much suggests it is your current age that matters.
You can currently pay extra years going back to 2006 but after April you will revert to the previous system where you can pay any missing for the last six.

fashionqueen0123 · 30/01/2025 07:57

Jollyjoy · 29/01/2025 23:33

Thank you so much op for the reminder to look into this. I wonder if anyone could advise me - I've been unemployed for nearly 3yrs as a SAHM. We don't claim child benefit as DH over the earning threshold. I know I should be to get stamps paid, and then pay it back, but have never gotten round to sorting it.

I went in to my gateway account there on your prompt and it said I have the full year in these recent years - that can't be right can it? Haven't claimed any benefits.

Not sure that is odd -but I’d get the child benefit thing sorted to be sure of no mistakes in the future!

fashionqueen0123 · 30/01/2025 07:53

stormacoming · 30/01/2025 06:55

I only work part time. Can you just pay the years with the smallest gaps?

Yes.

Also if you claim child benefit all of those years are automatically counted.

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