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To be fuming at my ex’s new girlfriend trying to coparent with me

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Veryvraiment · 29/01/2025 20:02

Bit of a backstory, I have 2 children DS (8) and DD (6). Have been separated for 4 years from their dad and have been with my partner for 2 and a half years.

my children’s father has been flakey, sporadic and unpleasant the entire time and has a line of girlfriends (not my business) he introduced one to my children and they were together for about a year (ended with her reporting him to SS after a fight and the police having to remove them from eachother)

he had a stint of about 5 months of not seeing the kids at all when child support finally started catching up (after £2,000 arrears) and he claimed he had a mental breakdown and messaged me apologising and asking to see the children. I agreed but put boundaries in place. He has a new partner who he says that has been supporting him and they had been together for around 6 months so I told him he could start having the children overnight once a fortnight, but for all communication I basically put him in a groupchat with my partner, his partner and his mum because he has a history of being verbally abusive and just straight up lying all the time about arrangements and interactions.

somce then it has been fine, he’s already moved his new girlfriend in and she seems like a nice enough person. Obviously the kids have had to meet her (not ideal) but recently when making plans, he will not communicate at all. She will only send any kind of messages or arrangements and it is super passive aggressive and sickly sweet. The idea was that we communicated but it was a public ish platform so it couldn’t get nasty but it is enraging me to my core. And I found out that they’ve been together for 3 months, and she basically moved in instantly and sending me messages about looking after my children etc. I don’t know how to rectify this without looking like I’m being petty as he’s such a manipulative person any time I say anything at all he manipulates it.

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SleeplessInWherever · 29/01/2025 20:29

I wouldn’t message my partner’s ex unless there was some sort of legitimate emergency, or his phone was somehow destroyed.

We've got each other’s numbers, she used mine for updates when we were on holiday as we only paid for one data plan, but other than that - wouldn’t dream of it.

Ignore her and message him directly, because that’s weird behaviour.

Veryvraiment · 29/01/2025 20:28

I realise it was a bad idea, I just didn’t know what else to do at the time. I’m try to keep communication to an absolute minimum because everything outside of facts just gets twisted. They’ve also already accused me of being unfair and abusive as they wanted to swap a couple of weekends for mid way through the year as they’d just booked to go on holiday together and I said no we have a schedule.

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Rainbowqueeen · 29/01/2025 20:26

Use a parenting app for all communication. That will give you all the comfort you need - messages can't be deleted.

He's clearly a shitty person as well as a shitty parent. And that will never change, girlfriend or no girlfriend. The best way to manage that is to only communicate about the DC and make the DC available for the agreed contact schedule. If he doesnt turn up or tries to change it, just dont agree. Distract the kids. Focus on helping them deal with the fact that their father is a waste of space.

Veryvraiment · 29/01/2025 20:25

ExtraOnions · 29/01/2025 20:16

What the issue with her messaging ? She’s not being rude, or abusive, is just sticking to the facts..

It’s just another abuse tactic from my ex. I thought it would be a good idea as he will be nice as pie to my face if someone else is there to witness but if it’s just us he will literally hiss and snarl. I don’t even do drop offs myself. I have no concerns over him being abusive to the kids but he despises me because he blames me for his downfall. Every message that I receive from her is so condescending

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Talulahalula · 29/01/2025 20:23

Just say that you cannot discuss with the new GF as she has no parental responsibility and therefore when your ex wishes contact he should get in touch by text. Contact is for the DC to see their father, not his girlfriend of a few months, and the girlfriend should not be responsible for the children for a whole host of reasons. She cannot authorise any medical care if it is needed for a start.
If he is verbally abusive when he messages, then do not reply or engage and let him take you to court for his contact.

StrawberryWater · 29/01/2025 20:23

Veryvraiment · 29/01/2025 20:08

@MissUltraViolet i suggested it as previously he has a history of being extremely verbally abusive and lying about dates agreed when having the children. I think I did it as a bit of self preservation honestly

There are dedicated apps that separated parents can use for messaging. Have a look into them and going forward it might be a better solution that having some rando woman butting in and him being abusive.

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Theunamedcat · 29/01/2025 20:19

ExtraOnions · 29/01/2025 20:16

What the issue with her messaging ? She’s not being rude, or abusive, is just sticking to the facts..

I think I would find it irritating that the girlfriend of three months is making arrangements and the father (of their entire existence) refuses to communicate full stop because it sounds like he is opting out again why did he say he wanted to start seeing the kids again if he was just going to opt out again

Pointless

MrsTerryPratchett · 29/01/2025 20:17

ExtraOnions · 29/01/2025 20:16

What the issue with her messaging ? She’s not being rude, or abusive, is just sticking to the facts..

She's arranging contact after three months of dating? While dad doesn't bother. That seems like an issue to me.

Theunamedcat · 29/01/2025 20:16

Don't react to her can you @ people on WhatsApp?

The child arrangements are nothing to do with her they are just in as witnesses because he is abusive

ExtraOnions · 29/01/2025 20:16

What the issue with her messaging ? She’s not being rude, or abusive, is just sticking to the facts..

MissUltraViolet · 29/01/2025 20:13

Veryvraiment · 29/01/2025 20:08

@MissUltraViolet i suggested it as previously he has a history of being extremely verbally abusive and lying about dates agreed when having the children. I think I did it as a bit of self preservation honestly

It was worth a try (maybe lol.)

So how about you keep all communication via email? That way you will always have a record of what has been said/agreed and nobody can play silly buggers by deleting sent messages or denying things etc?

I would absolutely get rid of the group chat though, it's so open to drama and confusion and stuff like what is happening now - you ending up communicating with a random girlfriend instead of their father.

CruCru · 29/01/2025 20:12

I can see why this annoys you. I think it’s time for grey rock - keep all messages completely factual.

”The children will be ready for collection at 6pm (say). Jack has some English homework which needs to be handed in on Monday.” Then it won’t matter what her messaging style is.

Starlight7080 · 29/01/2025 20:11

I wouldn't let my children stay overnight with a stranger who has been involved with my ex for only 3 months .
Day visit ok but not overnight .
The fact they have lied already speaks volumes

Veryvraiment · 29/01/2025 20:08

@MissUltraViolet i suggested it as previously he has a history of being extremely verbally abusive and lying about dates agreed when having the children. I think I did it as a bit of self preservation honestly

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MissUltraViolet · 29/01/2025 20:06

Ohhh lord, what on earth made you think it was a good idea to have you, your partner, your ex and his new partner of a few months in a group chat!?

Talk to your ex, tell him the group chat was a stupid idea and is no longer working, shut it down. Communicate with him directly regarding the children from now on.

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