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MIL and disregarding boundaries

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TTCagain85 · 29/01/2025 14:48

RANT INCOMING- AIBU?

What would you do if your MIL consistently oversteps boundaries and your husband won't speak to her about it as he has been brought up emotionally emeshed and parentified by her.

For context, he is an only child. She is married and has stepchildren.

Me and husband have agreed to have a weekend free of visitors before the arrival of our second child next week. MIL was supposed to visit last weekend but cancelled due to weather. She lives an hour away, and i don't blame her for not travelling when the weather wasn't pleasant. Cut to today, announces she is visiting on Sunday, and I had responded to say this doesn't suit that we have plans Saturday and Sunday, but offered an alternative day. Her response was that she will be dropping stuff off to our house on Sunday anyway.

😡😡😡😡😡 we will most likely be in the house as we want to relax, and if she arrives, we will have to host her against our wishes. She isn't one for stopping by for a quick cuppa, it's always a 5/6hr visit.

Husband refused to address this with her.

What would you do?

OP posts:
GrumblingRose · 02/02/2025 09:45

TTCagain85 · 29/01/2025 18:02

For those saying I'm precious and not to be rude wasting her journey. I've asked her not to come. She has a key to our house and has essentially said she will come and let herself in. I'm 39 weeks pregnant with a high risk pregnancy. We will be seeing her next week when baby is here, most likely within hours of the birth which is totally fine. I don't think wanting one weekend of peace before the birth is wrong.

For context, we really struggled to conceive this baby and lost a baby at 18weeks 3 years ago. She let herself into our house on our child's 1st anniversary whilst we were away after asking her not to come. It's as if she was checking we were there or not. My DH wouldn't ask for the key back. So yes, there is a DH issue as well, and i agree with others- I'm realising he finds it easier to piss off me than her.

Ask for the key back as you have lost yours . Or change the locks . I would not be happy with her letting herself in when you are not there . She's trying to domineer you OP .

GreylingsSkin · 02/02/2025 09:44

pelargoniums · 02/02/2025 09:39

The MIL doesn’t care about OP, though. If you care about someone, you listen to their “no”.

And OP has literally suggested another day!

Can see who the ghastly mils by the comments 🚩🚩🚩

pelargoniums · 02/02/2025 09:39

CosyLemur · 02/02/2025 09:27

FFS! It's your MIL the Grandmother to your children - be grateful she cares enough to see you all.
Just say that's okay, but we're got plans at x time so it'll need to be before then, or another day.
I hope you're so horrible and nasty about your own mother if she ever dares to come and visit with gifts for you and the baby!

The MIL doesn’t care about OP, though. If you care about someone, you listen to their “no”.

And OP has literally suggested another day!

MeOldBamboo · 02/02/2025 09:36

I hope you do stick to your guns and your DH backs you. I had this problem throughout my marriage and I always came second. She is now my exMIL. It saddens me that we could have still been married now had my exH grown a pair. There were other issues too, but she could do no wrong.

Ophy83 · 02/02/2025 09:35

JimHalpertsWife · 02/02/2025 09:27

You know what will happen Grin as it always does.

OP will try and force the visit to end, the dh will be so fucking passive that the MIL might as well move in, she'll end up staying for dinner, which the OP will end up cooking.

Once MIL eventually goes, OP will raise it with dh who will shrug it off "we can relax next weekend" and "she means well" completely overlooking the fact that his wife is about to have his baby and deserves the earth on a stick.

Then the OP will go into labour.

Yes that's my worry!

I think there's a decent chance MIL will turn up anyway, so OP needs a workable "just in case" plan. Her DH is likely the weakest link here so she may need him to be out of the house already. But all of this rather spoils the lovely relaxing day at home plan 🙁

OP is there an alternative that you would enjoy e.g. a nice pub nearby where you could go for a cosy Sunday lunch?

JimHalpertsWife · 02/02/2025 09:27

Ophy83 · 02/02/2025 09:23

Have you got a plan for if she does turn up today? Perhaps have your things ready by the door so if she does turn up you can say "oh what a shame you came all this when even though we said we were busy. As you know we have plans today and we're just on our way out", put coats and shoes on, leave the house ushering her out at the same time. You don't need to be out for long.

You know what will happen Grin as it always does.

OP will try and force the visit to end, the dh will be so fucking passive that the MIL might as well move in, she'll end up staying for dinner, which the OP will end up cooking.

Once MIL eventually goes, OP will raise it with dh who will shrug it off "we can relax next weekend" and "she means well" completely overlooking the fact that his wife is about to have his baby and deserves the earth on a stick.

Then the OP will go into labour.

CosyLemur · 02/02/2025 09:27

FFS! It's your MIL the Grandmother to your children - be grateful she cares enough to see you all.
Just say that's okay, but we're got plans at x time so it'll need to be before then, or another day.
I hope you're so horrible and nasty about your own mother if she ever dares to come and visit with gifts for you and the baby!

Ophy83 · 02/02/2025 09:23

Have you got a plan for if she does turn up today? Perhaps have your things ready by the door so if she does turn up you can say "oh what a shame you came all this when even though we said we were busy. As you know we have plans today and we're just on our way out", put coats and shoes on, leave the house ushering her out at the same time. You don't need to be out for long.

CheekyRaven · 02/02/2025 09:15

'What time will you get here'? You ask. When she says the time, say 11am, reply with, OK. but we're going out at 11.30. Make sure you're sort of ready when she arrives.

MyspecialMug · 02/02/2025 09:09

It's time to put your foot down and try to end this, especially with the new arrival due soon.
Agree with previous posters, if you've any idea of time she arrives. Be out, got out for breakfast/lunch, (I know you won't feel up to it, but its worth it, if you dont have to entertain her for 6 hours).
Also turn you phones off or silent when your out she can't contact you.
Do you have a ring doorbell, you could just have the camera on to keep an eye on the door, then you'll know if she's been & left.
All the best you you and your new baby.

toastofthetown · 02/02/2025 08:42

ClearHoldBuild · 02/02/2025 08:01

But you don’t have plans. Apart from “relaxing”. I can’t imagine telling my parents or in-laws that they weren’t welcome if I had nothing on.

Relaxing was the plan. It’s not a ticketed event or requires travelling distances, but when the OP and her husband planned this weekend, they wanted to spend it chilled and without visitors. That’s as valid a plan as any other and the MIL is not more entitled to disrupt those plans than if the OP had chosen to spend the weekend relaxing in a hotel rather than at home.

Redsheshed · 02/02/2025 08:39

Just don't 'host' her. Do what you were going to do but dont wait on her. Let your husband do it. It will send her a message and set the president for the future. I've been there. 8 years of it. A divorce fixed it but now he hardly sees his mum.

It Turns out, my hospitality for every weekend , for most of one day alllllll of those years was what she really came for. He hardly sees her now and although my relationship with him has always been good as we have 2 boys together, she has not spoken a word to me since.

I now get to give that time that she had taken up to my own mum. Its your time to decide who you want to spend it with.

Good luck with your new baby too. Exciting times ahead x

Imisschampagne · 02/02/2025 08:25

Also, can’t edit my post unfortunately- but @TTCagain85 even better to tackle the unhealthy dynamic and process the underlying issues in therapy or counselling in order to make sure the cycle doesn’t continue or worsens once the baby arrives. Your baby does not need a father who’s still dependent on the emotional manipulation by his mother.

He needs to safeguard his child and disentangle himself from the emotional enmeshing his mother has created for him. Otherwise the next generation will be drawn into this too. And it will cause marital distress in the future.

MyLemonZebra · 02/02/2025 08:21

TTCagain85 · 29/01/2025 18:56

@stastayathomer completely agree, and I am very family orientated and accommodating to both sets of parents. Most of our Sundays are spent visiting family.

This is one weekend we both agreed was for us; my family live nearby and previously had a tendency to call in unannounced albeit for 5/10mins not hours, but I've put a stop to that as I wouldn't want double standards having one rule for my side and one rule for his.

Calling my DH a useless tosser is a bit much, he is an only child who has grown up with a mentally unstable manipulative mother. Whilst I agree he needs to stand up for me, you can see how it is difficult for him. And it is his mother, and as he is an only child i dont want long term animosity I will speak to him and suggest I message her but that in no circumstances will she be welcomed into our home this weekend.

The one bit of advice I would give you here is whilst it's nice to not have double standards do not make your parents change things that you are happy with them doing just because you want to be fair to a MIL who is not being fair to you. I've done this with my parents (not seen them as much, reduced the amount of time they have my children etc) all to try and be fair on a bossy, pushy, controlling mother in law who I have since realised does not care one bit about me or my feelings. I regret pushing my parents away a bit to be fair on her and realise now that this is classic tactics of a controlling person (emotionally guilt tripping me in to spending less time with my parents so she isn't missing out). I'm changing things drastically now but the easy bit for me is my husband has seen his parents for what they are the whole time and has been trying to show me that they are controlling us both via taking advantage of my good nature. It took a family holiday where they attempted to overrule me on every aspect of my children's care to realise enough is enough.

WilderHawthorn · 02/02/2025 08:14

Good luck today- I hope she doesn't turn up!

EdithBond · 02/02/2025 08:10

YANBU.

I agree you need to change your lock barrel if it’d cause too much drama to ask for the key back. If someone lets themselves into your home without your permission they shouldn’t have a key.

However, to give balance, if he’s an only child and she’s not with his dad, they must have a very close relationship, especially if it was just the two of them for a while. I expect she’s very anxious and excited about the arrival of her grandchild. If you have a DS, you’ll realise there’s a risk when he’s older you’ll be pushed away as his mother by his partner. Or your way of doing things as a family may not be tolerated by her.

Both ways, it’s so important mothers respect other mothers.

Imisschampagne · 02/02/2025 08:09

TTCagain85 · 30/01/2025 16:33

@luluckylavender not ordinarily, no. But it's recurrent overstepping of boundaries is the issue rather than this as an isolated incident. saying she will come and let herself in anyway, and a general disregard for our wishes is not on. Her behaviour in the past when she's not got her own way involves emotional manipulation and saying she is suicidal.

She wouldn't just drive over an hour and "drop" stuff off, she would sit the full day. She is honestly the most selfish, self centred woman when it comes to her wants and emotional needs. Don't get me wrong, she is not all bad and I have offered suitable alternatives. The baby will be born a few days later and she will see us then, so to have Sunday to ourselves isn't alot to ask.

Good for you for talking with your husband and also for suggesting counseling.

what your MIL does is emotionally immature and blackmailing. It’s a very unhealthy behavior that has likely been persistent since your husband‘s childhood. He was probably made feel responsible for her feelings for a long time which makes it hard for him to realize that the dynamic is not normal and harder for him to emancipate himself from her.

a therapist and counselling can definitely help. Check out the column in the NYT about parents who place the burden of their well being on their children: https://www.nytimes.com/2025/01/16/well/mind/critical-mom-advice.html

In the end your MIL needs to respect your boundaries and your husband needs to invoke them. She should absolutely not have your keys or the chance to steamroll your boundaries. Furthermore your husband needs to understand that he is not responsible for his mother‘s feelings and does not owe her anything. He is responsible for his partner and his child.

BadlyDrawnRoy · 02/02/2025 08:06

nahthatsnotforme · 29/01/2025 15:25

I'd assume she has things for you, your child or the new baby that she wants you to have before the birth, so is dropping them off.

Is that so awful?

If that's the case, she'll be happy to drop them at the door and get on her way, given that she's already been told that the OP and her DH don't want visitors....

Imisschampagne · 02/02/2025 08:04

Boomer55 · 29/01/2025 16:57

This. 🙄

So what? A no is a no. Boundary stomping with good intentions is still boundary stomping. And people who consistently think their good intentions trump other people’s wishes care more about their own „charity“ than what their good intentions actually does with the other person. It’s beneficial only to the giver.

Don‘t know why this is being encouraged here.

ClearHoldBuild · 02/02/2025 08:01

But you don’t have plans. Apart from “relaxing”. I can’t imagine telling my parents or in-laws that they weren’t welcome if I had nothing on.

ehb102 · 02/02/2025 08:01

Any time someone threatens to kill themselves it is game over for mature conversation. They now have the ultimate abusive trump card. When someone does that you have to refuse to play any more and insist they get help otherwise they have the power forever.

Wavescrashingonthebeach · 02/02/2025 07:54

Take her key off her or change the locks and only give a set to your parents. If she let's herself in when she's been expressly told not to shes going to drive you fuxking potty when you have the baby

Ihavenopatienceforthis · 02/02/2025 07:51

Im Just commenting because I need to know if she turns up today

Peaceandquietandacuppa · 02/02/2025 07:46

JollyZebra · 02/02/2025 07:09

Whatever you decide, please don't let the woman drive 1hr to have your husband shut the door on her, or you sit inside and don't answer. That's not establishing boundaries, that's spiteful. You need to speak to her nicely beforehand and get husband to collect items before the weekend. I hope some of the advisers above are never find themselves as unwelcome and resented MILs. As Churchill said "Jaw jaw is better than war war" - and the same goes for family relationships.

Did you miss the bit where she threatens her own son that she will commit suicide if he doesn’t give in to what she wants? This is bloody abusive and if she chose to ignore that she wasn’t welcome, that’s her shout.

Griff1963 · 02/02/2025 07:33

The truth will set you free!

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