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BexAubs20 · 29/01/2025 10:45

I’m drowning in life! Kids & work and I’m doing none of it well! I try my best every day but it is never good enough! For eg I had to call in sick today as my little one had me up all night from 1am-5am and has come out in spots all over her face. Work are not happy and I may get sacked as had a long sickness / absence history due to my health/ kids. Yesterday I forgot to take son’s PE kit out of washer so it was still wet on the morning and he was late. So basically failing at home, as a mum & at work! 4 kids ages 17, 14, 12, 2. Husband who said he couldn’t get up last night as had a big job in today. Not much of a support network apart from my mum who does her best to help. I have anxiety, depression and in diagnosed what I think is an autoimmune condition and PMDD. AMBU to think everyone else copes with day to day life of work and kids and I should be able to as well?

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HipToTheHopDontStop · 30/01/2025 09:03

BexAubs20 · 29/01/2025 13:55

Because their school is on my way to nursery and work so I take them with me. Do other people just leave their older kids to fend for themselves on a morning? Like just leave them in bed and expect them to get up and to school on their own?

14 and 17 year olds, yes of course we do. Your oldest is almost an adult, at 17 I lived abroad, alone. You're getting him ready for school and driving him there?

StarsBeneathMyFeet · 30/01/2025 08:41

My 11yo DD gets herself up in the morning. I make sure she’s awake and getting dressed before I leave but she leaves after me. She sorts her own packed lunch and lets herself out to get the bus about 15 minutes after I leave for work. She’s also learned how to use the air fryer and can cook a simple meal now (still supervised at the moment!).
I think you need to rephrase this time off. It’s not ‘sick leave’ it’s ‘carer’s leave’ if you’re looking after a sick dependent.
I left a marriage where I was expected to do the majority of the mental load and home management. It honestly feels like less work now. The balance of what he contributed versus the amount he created (mess that he didn’t clean up, expensive tastes for food etc), on balance, I have less to do now.
You sound exhausted. Take a step back and think about how you can get your older kids to step up and help at home. You need to get them helping so they learn how to be independent adults. Then think about your relationship, he’s not being supportive.

IbizaToTheNorfolkBroads · 30/01/2025 07:56

I remember standing on my mum's doorstep crying at the prospect of a 5 hour drive home with the dc, who were maybe 1-2 and 4-5 at the time. She was saying something like "I don't know what all the fuss is about, I raised 4 children" (I have 2), and me saying "But you didn't also have a job!". I'm old enough that my siblings got some of the diseases kids are routinely vaccinated against now (mumps, diphtheria, whooping cough), but even this happened we all hunkered down at home.

IbizaToTheNorfolkBroads · 30/01/2025 07:41

Do other people just leave their older kids to fend for themselves on a morning? Like just leave them in bed and expect them to get up and to school on their own?

Mine are 13 and 16.

I shout them to get up at 7.15 and 7.30. DH or I stay at home until they've left about 8.10. They get themselves to and from school.

They are both responsible for their own laundry, PE kits and packed lunches.

I don't usually work on Mondays, and try and get food prepped for evening meals for the coming week.

Meal planning and Tesco online food delivery once a fortnight. Delivery on Sunday evenings and everyone helps to bring the food in and put it away.

AquaPeer · 29/01/2025 20:51

Ameliepoulainandthephotobooth · 29/01/2025 18:50

@AquaPeer why are you so angry at op? I’m not sure that the tough love routine is going to help the op who is very obviously frazzled. You having a go and demanding answers from someone who is being verbally abused by their husband isn’t ok.

@BexAubs20 You are ok. Teens and a toddler plus your own health issues and an unsupportive husband sounds super stressful! I think anyone would drop the ball at some point! I agree that the teens need to be helping more, this is the perfect opportunity to start! Also you need routine and a time table (for everyone, not just you). You will get through this stage.

I’m not in the slightest bit angry. OP however, has had a post deleted for abusing me and been snippy and rude to other posters

wpotua · 29/01/2025 20:45

4 kids and a full time job is difficult? Who da thunk it.

rickandmorts · 29/01/2025 20:43

Right OP gather the older 3, show them how to use the washer and dryer and say they need to be responsible for washing their own clothes/ PE kits/ anything else they need. I started doing my own washing in year 7 because I had a busy working mum and more spare time than her. I'd tidy my room on a Sunday, vac and polish and change my bedding and wash it, sort my uniform etc so I would encourage them to do that too. It builds good habits for the future, takes the pressure off you and means they start the week with some order.

JLou08 · 29/01/2025 19:25

BexAubs20 · 29/01/2025 13:55

Because their school is on my way to nursery and work so I take them with me. Do other people just leave their older kids to fend for themselves on a morning? Like just leave them in bed and expect them to get up and to school on their own?

You've got your priorities right OP! I've never know anyone actually say work is their priority. I wonder if the person who commented is actually a mother.

Mumofmarauders · 29/01/2025 19:03

I work three days and my husband works full time so if one of our kids is ill or has an appointment (and one is disabled so there are a LOT) on a day I work then more often than not he tends to be the one to cover it. He gets the benefit of the fact that we arrange all appointments we can on my NWDs and I automatically do all the sick days on those days, and it's a bigger deal for me to miss a day because it's a third rather than a fifth of my working week.
I think you're making your workplace suffer for the fact that your DH isn't pulling his weight. Maybe he can be made to understand the impact it has on you, I'm sure he wouldn't want your income to go!

AmberGemstone · 29/01/2025 19:01

BexAubs20 · 29/01/2025 14:28

It’s my 2yr old who’s ill so what am I supposed to do? Leave her on her own sick? God it’s women like YOU who make it so hard for working mothers! I really hope your not anyone’s boss

I’d wager that it’s women like YOU who make it harder for working mums. The stereotype of mothers in the workplace being unreliable and unavailable due to childcare is one that’s very hard to shake.

JLou08 · 29/01/2025 18:58

We're not all coping. Once upon a time being a mother was seen as a full time job. Now there's an expectation we do it alongside another full time job.
I reduced to part time hours a couple of years ago, there are still times that it feels like I'm failing but it's definitely not as frequently or as intensely as when I was working full time.

Overthebow · 29/01/2025 18:56

BexAubs20 · 29/01/2025 14:28

It’s my 2yr old who’s ill so what am I supposed to do? Leave her on her own sick? God it’s women like YOU who make it so hard for working mothers! I really hope your not anyone’s boss

People are bringing this up because you said in your OP you called in sick because your dd was sick. You don't call in sick when you are not sick, it should be carers, annual or unpaid leave. You may have meant something else but that's what you said so people pick up on it. Your DH does need to share the time off though, your work will be annoyed if it's you every time and they have every right to be.

Greengagesnfennel · 29/01/2025 18:54

Yes.

Older kids can ‘just fend for themselves’ in the morning and get themselves up. I’d expect this in late primary let alone secondary age.

BarbaricYawp · 29/01/2025 18:51

I think OP and her children have been gaslit into believing that the lion's share of what needs to be done is her responsibility. That attitude comes from her abusive DH and has trickled down to the kids. It isn't easy to see that dynamic when you're immersed in it and still harder to know what to do to bring about change, even if people think change is possible as long as there's an abuser in the picture. Ideally she should leave him while there's still time to get things on a healthier footing with her children, who are learning that this is normal, but OP is already really struggling so that probably also seems unmanageable. Suggesting she give up her own income is really bad advice in the circumstances.

OP, is leaving him an option? In the short term, I would advise talking to your GP and, if you think they would be sympathetic, to your employer about the fact that you're in an abuse situation and close to going pop. Perhaps your GP might sign you off for a period so that you could get your health together, get things on a more even keel with your family and make a plan to leave.

OP, you are not failing, you are being failed.

Ameliepoulainandthephotobooth · 29/01/2025 18:50

@AquaPeer why are you so angry at op? I’m not sure that the tough love routine is going to help the op who is very obviously frazzled. You having a go and demanding answers from someone who is being verbally abused by their husband isn’t ok.

@BexAubs20 You are ok. Teens and a toddler plus your own health issues and an unsupportive husband sounds super stressful! I think anyone would drop the ball at some point! I agree that the teens need to be helping more, this is the perfect opportunity to start! Also you need routine and a time table (for everyone, not just you). You will get through this stage.

Caterina99 · 29/01/2025 18:47

Sounds really hard OP. I’ve been there with the PE kit (I assume most mums have) and I only have 2 kids primary age. I do feel I’m somewhat on a treadmill of life right now, but my DH is supportive and I think that’s your main problem here. Your DH is leaving everything to you and is verbally abusive if you ask for help!

Also you have a toddler. They are hard work. I am never going back to toddlers again. I think the toddler teenager combination must be very difficult, despite all the DH issues.

SnoopysHoose · 29/01/2025 18:42

You talk about dinner /bath time and a lot of things that should only relate to the two year old, time to step back and let the older ones sort
themselves out.

BexAubs20 · 29/01/2025 18:35

WhenTheyComeForYou · 29/01/2025 16:40

Husband is verbally abusive when you try to ask for more help? For equality?

OP, I heavily suspect many of your health issues, mental health especially, will improve drastically if you leave him. He has you trapped. He “works” all the time and you’re left doing everything else and if you dare say anything, he’s nasty to you. What a pig.

Relationships work on mutual respect and care. Without this, you’ll be unhappy. And long term unhappiness leads to depression and anxiety.

Of course you have anxiety with the workload you are bearing, that’s normal, normal a condition you need to treat with medication. You need to solve the root issue; the unsupportive husband.

It sounds like he makes good money? Even more reason to take your half and run. Your health issues won’t improve all the while you’re carrying so much responsibility with a disrespectful husband.

I think this is the case too! I’m scared but need to leave him! He’s gone out now at bath: bed time (the next most stressful part of my day after school runs) to put oil in his van so I’m basically parenting alone! My baby has just used the potty and I’ve just thought to myself I’ve been the one to solely potty train her too!

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BexAubs20 · 29/01/2025 18:33

Hotnspicyy · 29/01/2025 16:32

This OP sounds like a cry for help and at breaking point. Your DH and older children (I had a full time job at 15 and got myself to and from there myself) need to step up.

It sounds like your DH is expecting you to be the one to take time off every time a child is sick and be up in the night. You both work, it needs to be 50-50.

All I get from your OP is that you have a DH issue. He needs to help out more and pull his weight.

the 14 and 17 year old should definitely have chores, so should the 12 year old but maybe smaller amount. They are all old enough to get themselves dressed teeth brushed and packed lunch x

Got it in one!

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Lentilweaver · 29/01/2025 16:44

Everyone else copes because we don't have 4 kids and we don't have to organise our teens for school. They organise themselves.

MeAndMyCatCharlotte · 29/01/2025 16:41

The PE kit, that's normal. I did things like that so many times! And I had 2 dc, not 4!

And there is no WAY I would have gone to work if my child was sick.

I hope you had a sofa day, OP.

WhenTheyComeForYou · 29/01/2025 16:40

Husband is verbally abusive when you try to ask for more help? For equality?

OP, I heavily suspect many of your health issues, mental health especially, will improve drastically if you leave him. He has you trapped. He “works” all the time and you’re left doing everything else and if you dare say anything, he’s nasty to you. What a pig.

Relationships work on mutual respect and care. Without this, you’ll be unhappy. And long term unhappiness leads to depression and anxiety.

Of course you have anxiety with the workload you are bearing, that’s normal, normal a condition you need to treat with medication. You need to solve the root issue; the unsupportive husband.

It sounds like he makes good money? Even more reason to take your half and run. Your health issues won’t improve all the while you’re carrying so much responsibility with a disrespectful husband.

DeedlessIndeed · 29/01/2025 16:40

Nothing really to add OP, but just to say that I don't have a quarter of the stress that you do and have days where I feel stressed out of my nut. Can't imagine what you must be feeling.

The fact you are persevering and juggling so much really does you credit. You are a good parent and you are doing your best.

876543A · 29/01/2025 16:37

In my house PE kit goes in the wash the day after PE and is hung up all on the same hanger, dry in the cupboard on the weekend to ensure its ready for the next week and all pieces of kit are together. This has become non negotiable for me because I have had too many stressful mornings scrabbling through washing baskets in the past trying to find it and I've learned my lesson.

Can you draw up some similar rules for yourself / family to follow?

Hotnspicyy · 29/01/2025 16:33

gianfrancogorgonzola · 29/01/2025 15:09

Older children need to get themselves up and out. Bags / clothes organised the night before (them not you!). These are life skills, it's not helpful to reach young adulthood without learning to take responsibility for themselves. I would say from last year Primary / first year secondary this should be expected, you can implement it now for them all.

Your 2 yr old sickness needs to be covered equally between you and your partner. Surely he understands your job is at risk and your family needs your income? It's practical to split this and not allow one persons job to take precedence.

Your 2 yr old sickness needs to be covered equally between you and your partner. Surely he understands your job is at risk and your family needs your income? It's practical to split this and not allow one persons job to take precedence.

This is my opinion too, I feel like DH has a “op will do it all” attitude with no real care for how she’s feeling and her job at risk

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