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To think we are becoming a country of hypochondriacs?

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YellowTulips25 · 29/01/2025 08:51

Firstly, let me preface this by saying that I entirely sympathise with people who have to live with serious long-term medical conditions. I don't wish to downplay illness or disabilities - visible or hidden - at all.

However, does anyone else feel like we're rapidly becoming a country of hypochondriacs, where an increasing number of people let seemingly minor health issues dominate their life?

For example, an article on the BBC this week features a woman who talks about having 'chronic pain, migraines and travel sickness' as reasons why it's impossible for her to work in an office. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cp9x0819417o

I think most of us suffer from aches and pains and headaches from time to time? What'd happen if we all started using this excuse?

And I know plenty of friends who always seem to have some ailment or other troubling them, whether it's being in pain, being tired, having a cough or cold, etc etc. It seems almost as if constantly being ill is part of their personality, a badge of honour?

I know I'll probably get flamed for this, but surely I can't be the only one to feel like rolling my eyes at some people's lack of resilience?

A woman with grey hair is stood centre frame. She has a solemn impression on her face and is wearing a grey turtle neck and light blue coat. She is stood in the woods.

Working from home criticism sparks anger: 'We are not lazy'

Hundreds of BBC readers disagreed with former Asda boss Lord Rose's view that working from home is "not proper work".

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cp9x0819417o

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EggFriedRiceAndChips · 29/01/2025 09:41

Would you prefer the woman in the article to be unemployed and claiming benefits? Or would you prefer her to manage her condition whilst holding down a job, at no detriment to anyone? Because I know which I’d rather. Good for her, and for all the disabled people struggling to find ways to work despite their condition ( and for those who can’t, I’m very happy to pay into a system that supports them, because I want to live in a civilised society). Bad enough being disabled without all this mean spirited right wing Daily Mail crap to deal with.

Digdongdoo · 29/01/2025 09:38

Yes, I'm not buying that we're all so much sicker than any previous generation. Covid has convinced people that they should sit at home any time they're not 100%, which imo, is the opposite of helpful and makes you feel worse.

Lentilweaver · 29/01/2025 09:37

Chronic migraines are a recognised disability. I have a friend with them and they knock her out. And there is no cure.

FranticFractions · 29/01/2025 09:37

brunettemic · 29/01/2025 09:31

It is true. It might not be true in this instance but it’s a massive problem. People saying they have the flu with a cold cracks me up, if you have the flu you’re in bed for multiple days.

I'm not aware of ever having the flu, so I say I've never had it, but presumably it manifests in a variety of ways, if at all.

Some people were hospitalised with covid, some people were asymptomatic. Isn't that similar to a flu virus?

RandomButtons · 29/01/2025 09:36

YellowTulips25 · 29/01/2025 09:11

Absolutely! And everything is "chronic" these days, chronic pain, chronic migraines, chronic coughs and sneezes.

I do agree with another poster as well that a lot is probably lifestyle related - people not eating healthily enough/doing enough exercise etc. I have one friend who always seems to be in pain, yet she spends most her free time sat on her sofa watching telly and rarely goes outside even when the weather's sunny. Maybe it's just coincidence, but I can't help but feel the two things are probably connected in some way.

Tell me you know nothing about chronic conditions without telling me.

If you have arthritis, that’s a chronic pain condition. It’s devastating. Working from home can make the difference between staying in work or not.

Yes there are a lot more moaners who need to get more resilient, but that doesn’t take away from the reality of actual chronic health conditions.

BobbiJo · 29/01/2025 09:36

YellowTulips25 · 29/01/2025 09:32

Of course not.

But on a similar theme, I do think that there are some people who use their mental health as an excuse for bad behaviour, or reason for why they're unable to do something, to the point that it negatively impacts those who genuinely really do suffer from depression. Look at how many celebrities who suddenly have depression/anxiety when they've been caught out for something or other, having previously never spoken about it.

I mean I wonder why some people wouldn't discuss their mental health issues when people suggest mental health issues are just a way to get away with stuff.

Almost like some people look down on other people stealth conditions and think,
"I've never had X so therefore X isn't so bad..."

Chronic migraines.
Chronic pain.
Depression.

These are life limiting, and in some cases life ending.
I'd be fucking jubilant if I'd never experienced any of them instead of judging those who suffer daily..

SaltyPig · 29/01/2025 09:35

I have a life limiting condition. There's one thing on her list that stops me dead in my tracks and that's a migraine. I deal with crap every day, take strong pain killers and get on with it. I get migraines maybe once a year and they are hideous.

ChardonnaysBeastlyCat · 29/01/2025 09:33

We are.
Covid didn’t help, lack of GP appointments doesn’t help, and the increased lack on common sense doesn’t help either.

Add to that the sickness benefits and up goes the welfare bill.

BobbyPeruLikeTheCountry · 29/01/2025 09:33

brunettemic · 29/01/2025 09:31

It is true. It might not be true in this instance but it’s a massive problem. People saying they have the flu with a cold cracks me up, if you have the flu you’re in bed for multiple days.

Yes, I'm sure some people do. The thing I take issue with is the OP posting an article where a real woman is discussing her issues, when she has no idea whether she is genuine or not, and also her implying that a migraine is just a headache that you can push though. Really not fair to use a real person's health struggles to make a point.

Op just looks spiteful and ignorant.

YellowTulips25 · 29/01/2025 09:32

BobbiJo · 29/01/2025 09:16

Next up.
OP will tell depression sufferers to just cheer up a bit and carry on..

Of course not.

But on a similar theme, I do think that there are some people who use their mental health as an excuse for bad behaviour, or reason for why they're unable to do something, to the point that it negatively impacts those who genuinely really do suffer from depression. Look at how many celebrities who suddenly have depression/anxiety when they've been caught out for something or other, having previously never spoken about it.

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brunettemic · 29/01/2025 09:31

BobbyPeruLikeTheCountry · 29/01/2025 09:05

Not true, I’ve just said I can work with chronic migraines that have some horrendous symptoms, because I’m self employed. I’d she’s able to work flexibly, she may be able to too.

It is true. It might not be true in this instance but it’s a massive problem. People saying they have the flu with a cold cracks me up, if you have the flu you’re in bed for multiple days.

FranticFractions · 29/01/2025 09:30

thinktwice36 · 29/01/2025 09:24

I bet a fair few people claiming migraines aren’t like this PP with actual migraines.

a headache can be brutal - but not every headache is a migraine!

How did you decide that this poster was definitely telling the truth, but all those other people are definitely lying? I'd love to have access to your magical remote lie detector test!

BobbyPeruLikeTheCountry · 29/01/2025 09:26

thinktwice36 · 29/01/2025 09:24

I bet a fair few people claiming migraines aren’t like this PP with actual migraines.

a headache can be brutal - but not every headache is a migraine!

Maybe, but the OP has posted a link with a woman who suffers with terrible migraines, then said we all have headaches from time to time, and it's no big deal, implying that people (like the woman in the article, are at it).

Several of us have pointed out that migraines can cause serious symptoms like blackout, vomiting, vision loss, limb weakness - just for starters - and she has conveniently ignored all that.

Slouchypants · 29/01/2025 09:25

thinktwice36 · 29/01/2025 09:24

I bet a fair few people claiming migraines aren’t like this PP with actual migraines.

a headache can be brutal - but not every headache is a migraine!

Migraine is a neurological event that manifests in a similar way to a seizure. You get a prodrome, aura, event and postdrome, some skip the aura stage.

Migraine is a severe and debilitating condition that is more than just the pain stage.

thinktwice36 · 29/01/2025 09:24

BobbyPeruLikeTheCountry · 29/01/2025 09:00

Chronic migraines aren’t just a headache though. When I get a migraine I lose my vision, I forcefully vomit. I black out. I get disorientated - some people have thought I’m drunk! I’m lucky enough that I’m self employed so I can work around them, but dismissing them as just a headache is not fair, and some people absolutely wouldn’t be able to work with them.

I bet a fair few people claiming migraines aren’t like this PP with actual migraines.

a headache can be brutal - but not every headache is a migraine!

LadyKenya · 29/01/2025 09:24

Macrodatarefiner · 29/01/2025 09:10

I think we are generally an unwell population, we live sedentary lives and our diets are very poor. It's no wonder we feel shit and indeed have all manner of health issues.

Having a poor diet will not help matters, no, but look at how many posters are in denial about the amount of rubbish food that they consume.

bombastix · 29/01/2025 09:22

I think it's a reasonable point; which is coming to a head because of benefits and the number of people claiming them. I expect Labour to make it harder to obtain them, but also expect employers to show flexibility in managing medical issues.

BobbyPeruLikeTheCountry · 29/01/2025 09:22

fanaticalfairy · 29/01/2025 09:20

nobody thinks they don't exist.

its just that PERHAPS not every time you get a headache you have a migraine ...

Yes, but she doesn't know whether the woman in the article she posted just has a headache or has serious migraines, does she? She's just decided that the woman is at it.

FranticFractions · 29/01/2025 09:21

I don't think it's a lack of resilience; I think it's a high level of constant stimulation and life today being extremely unhealthy. Road noise, for example, is shown to cause health issues, even if you think you block it out.

I'm autistic and can see the general population displaying more and more autism-like behaviours, like in the run up to a big meltdown.

I also think that we know too much about illnesses and their symptoms, now. We're told that half of us (now just under half of us) will get cancer - how is that helpful? It's manipulative and cruel.

Having chronic pain isn't the same as having aches and pains now and again, by the way. Maybe you could swap some of your resilience for empathy. 😅

fanaticalfairy · 29/01/2025 09:20

BobbyPeruLikeTheCountry · 29/01/2025 09:13

So you think chronic migraines don’t exist? You think migraines are just a “bad headache” but you don’t want to downplay genuine illness?

You’re really showing your ignorance.

nobody thinks they don't exist.

its just that PERHAPS not every time you get a headache you have a migraine ...

Pinkblueflowers · 29/01/2025 09:20

I agree that some people can over diagnose themselves, and that perhaps people in general are less resilient than in the past.

However I do think there is more stress in modern day living, as well as environmental and societal factors, which have led to an increase in genuine chronic illnesses.

As for the migraines - as some PPs have said, if you have a migraine it can be impossible to work. Mine affect the whole body, and cause neurological symptoms as well as a headache, sickness and flu like symptoms. I literally can barely walk to the bathroom let alone work.

I think the problem is that some people who've never had a migraine hear the word migraine and think "Oh that's just a headache, I get those sometimes, just take an aspirin and get on with it" which unfortunately is very far from the truth of having a migraine.

OhMaria2 · 29/01/2025 09:20

YellowTulips25 · 29/01/2025 09:11

Absolutely! And everything is "chronic" these days, chronic pain, chronic migraines, chronic coughs and sneezes.

I do agree with another poster as well that a lot is probably lifestyle related - people not eating healthily enough/doing enough exercise etc. I have one friend who always seems to be in pain, yet she spends most her free time sat on her sofa watching telly and rarely goes outside even when the weather's sunny. Maybe it's just coincidence, but I can't help but feel the two things are probably connected in some way.

Your friend is staying at home when she's in pain? Wow, that's nuts!

AIBot · 29/01/2025 09:19

There’s evidence around the impact of the pandemic, impact of lengthening NHS waiting lists, chronic poverty, lack of access to dental care, on the nation’s health. Physical and mental. Go and look it up OP. Then come back to us and tell us what you found. We aren’t here to do the work for you. 🙄

BobbyPeruLikeTheCountry · 29/01/2025 09:19

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This has been deleted by MNHQ for breaking our Talk Guidelines.

Yes, but the OP was knocking a woman with migraines and chronic pain, not someone who just had a simple cold!

Cattreesea · 29/01/2025 09:19

Chronic pain is very different from occasional aches and pains when you have overdone it at the gym.

This type of thread is really not helpful because it just pushes the right wing media agenda that people with long term disabilities and/or health conditions are faking it...

I guess this simplistic type of view is easier to hold than addressing the real issue:

  • crumbling NHS and social care services
  • poor diets and lack of exercise
  • long working hours which mean people have little time left to exercise or cook healthy meals
  • high level of mental health issues after Covid, cost of living crisis and poor access to mental health services due to underfunding
  • dinosaur employers who won't accept that WFH is a godsend for people with disabilities and help them stay in employment.

I guess it is much easier to just say that people are now 'snowflakes' than acknowledge and try to fix the root causes.

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