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To think we are becoming a country of hypochondriacs?

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YellowTulips25 · 29/01/2025 08:51

Firstly, let me preface this by saying that I entirely sympathise with people who have to live with serious long-term medical conditions. I don't wish to downplay illness or disabilities - visible or hidden - at all.

However, does anyone else feel like we're rapidly becoming a country of hypochondriacs, where an increasing number of people let seemingly minor health issues dominate their life?

For example, an article on the BBC this week features a woman who talks about having 'chronic pain, migraines and travel sickness' as reasons why it's impossible for her to work in an office. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cp9x0819417o

I think most of us suffer from aches and pains and headaches from time to time? What'd happen if we all started using this excuse?

And I know plenty of friends who always seem to have some ailment or other troubling them, whether it's being in pain, being tired, having a cough or cold, etc etc. It seems almost as if constantly being ill is part of their personality, a badge of honour?

I know I'll probably get flamed for this, but surely I can't be the only one to feel like rolling my eyes at some people's lack of resilience?

A woman with grey hair is stood centre frame. She has a solemn impression on her face and is wearing a grey turtle neck and light blue coat. She is stood in the woods.

Working from home criticism sparks anger: 'We are not lazy'

Hundreds of BBC readers disagreed with former Asda boss Lord Rose's view that working from home is "not proper work".

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cp9x0819417o

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AllPlayedOut · 29/01/2025 12:04

Yes and plenty of people(understandably) didn’t cope. The idea that everyone compliantly and cheerfully went along with blackouts, rationing and other restrictions is a myth. People struggled. People turned to crime, broke laws, struggled and were traumatised. They didn’t all go skipping along cheerily singing Knees Up, Mother Brown while thumbing their noses at the Luftwaffe.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-33566789.amp

Their problems were very real(as are many challenges that people face today) and shouldn’t be used as fodder for people’s masturbatory fantasies of WW2 that they like to beat struggling people over the head with.

Mainwaring and Walker

Breaking the law during World War Two - BBC News

Much is made of the Blitz spirit during World War Two but, while most people were mucking in and pulling together, some were using the devastation for criminal gains.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-33566789.amp

Catza · 29/01/2025 12:03

Bumpitybumper · 29/01/2025 11:19

Where is your source that this isn't the case? Mumsnet isn't a forum where every post needs to be properly cited with peer referenced journals. If you disagree with what has been written then put forward evidence to disprove it.

Stop trying to shut down discussion under the guise of ableism.

The burden of proof is on the person who proposed a hypothesis... which is you.

Starlight1984 · 29/01/2025 12:01

Fargo79 · 29/01/2025 11:50

Yeah. This is just more of the same judgemental nonsense. Bonus points for bringing up the grandparents who worked down the mines though 👍

Thank you 😊

Differentstarts · 29/01/2025 11:56

Viviennemary · 29/01/2025 11:52

Goodness knows how those stressed out snowfkakes would have coped during the war. Air raids.Rationing, relatives fighting at the front, threat of invasion. It would have given them something else to think about other than their sorry poor. little selves.

They didn't cope during the war they where murdered first because that's what happens when people see a group of people who they see as lesser them then. It's crazy that in 2025 people still think this way

faithbuffy · 29/01/2025 11:53

Also I might say I find WFH easier because of my periods but not go into it
That's because I can have a heat pad, a tens machine and take morphine without having to drive but people just hear "period pain"

faithbuffy · 29/01/2025 11:52

People don't believe invisible illnesses though
So if I have a UTI or a chest infection or anything like that, I need the doctor asap for emergency antibiotics

I work with more medical conditions and pain than people know about but I get "you're always ill"
Well yeah... not only am I immunocompromised, I'm on a shit ton of medication with a load of health issues! It's not like I'm going to be well is it?

Viviennemary · 29/01/2025 11:52

Goodness knows how those stressed out snowfkakes would have coped during the war. Air raids.Rationing, relatives fighting at the front, threat of invasion. It would have given them something else to think about other than their sorry poor. little selves.

Fargo79 · 29/01/2025 11:50

Starlight1984 · 29/01/2025 11:20

I am on the Board of a company so yes I guess you could say I'm a manager (slightly senior to Management but let's not split hairs 😉)

We are one of the most relaxed and easy going companies I have ever known. Nobody is expected to work outside of their set hours, we are very flexible on appointments / days off etc. We don't have "targets" or deadlines. It's a casual workplace, lots of benefits and everyone gets on.

But the people I am referring to already have these "conditions" when they come to work for us (as I said in my post, they have to complete a medical questionnaire when they start). So it's absolutely nothing to do with working here.

I would say most workplaces are far more chilled out and flexible now than they ever have been.

My - and many other peoples - grandparents who used to work in the coal mines and in factories for 12-14 hours a day with barely a break would be turning in their graves at the reasons that people being signed off for "stress" these days.

Yeah. This is just more of the same judgemental nonsense. Bonus points for bringing up the grandparents who worked down the mines though 👍

Tisthedamnseason · 29/01/2025 11:48

Fartypants83 · 29/01/2025 11:45

Yes, completely agree. No ambition with some people, no ability to push on and create a better life.

This along with no scientific diagnosis of made up "dislexia" etc. Just attempts to get more, put in less and do as little as possible.

Have you spelled dyslexia wrong on purpose as an attempt at some sort of clever point?

SaltyPig · 29/01/2025 11:48

BobbiJo · 29/01/2025 09:36

I mean I wonder why some people wouldn't discuss their mental health issues when people suggest mental health issues are just a way to get away with stuff.

Almost like some people look down on other people stealth conditions and think,
"I've never had X so therefore X isn't so bad..."

Chronic migraines.
Chronic pain.
Depression.

These are life limiting, and in some cases life ending.
I'd be fucking jubilant if I'd never experienced any of them instead of judging those who suffer daily..

Havent' read replies to your post and whilst i agree those conditions are awful, life limiting (conditions) in the sense that I understand it, and have, are ones that you won't survive.

Crikeyalmighty · 29/01/2025 11:47

I think part of the issue is we have TV filled with adverts related to dying and death, we have social media feeds filling up with 10 things to eat to avoid xxx and other similar stuff - and Google on tap to search for every ache and pain that's bothering. The US has always been like this - I've had conversations with Americans that within 20 minutes I know all the 'meds' they are on - it seems like a national sport when the reality is it's a gigantic money maker!!

Differentstarts · 29/01/2025 11:47

Fartypants83 · 29/01/2025 11:45

Yes, completely agree. No ambition with some people, no ability to push on and create a better life.

This along with no scientific diagnosis of made up "dislexia" etc. Just attempts to get more, put in less and do as little as possible.

Wow your so blessed that you don't understand the realities of this life

CatsBeCrazy · 29/01/2025 11:45

I have diagnosed Anxiety , depression etc. . It's not just feeling a bit worried . I can get so anxious I can relapse into Postpartum Pyschosis which then means I have to have the crisis team come out. Which can you imagine how it feels when you also have diagnosed Social phobia 😭 I also have migraines that mimic strokes . My brain seems to really hate me 😭 I sometimes think childhood trauma fucked my brain up as I never got help as kid

Fartypants83 · 29/01/2025 11:45

Yes, completely agree. No ambition with some people, no ability to push on and create a better life.

This along with no scientific diagnosis of made up "dislexia" etc. Just attempts to get more, put in less and do as little as possible.

Differentstarts · 29/01/2025 11:44

People need to also realise that when you have disabilities and chronic illnesses you also have to take a lot of medication i have to take 52 pills a day, 2 inhalers and regular injections all of these medications make you feel exhausted and just generally shit so it's not just the condition your dealing with it's the side effects of so much medication

RaraRachael · 29/01/2025 11:44

@RandomButtons not sure what you mean, but we all went through lockdown too.

Mikiamo · 29/01/2025 11:43

Bumpitybumper · 29/01/2025 11:37

This is exactly what I mean. I have never even slightly insinuated that I don't want disabled people to speak and yet you are absolutely desperate to claim that I have. I simply said that we can't keep asking all posters to provides sources for their opinions/claims as it isn't the nature of this forum. We aren't writing academic essays. For example,
you have claimed that disabled people are the most vulnerable in society which is quite a bold claim when you think of other very vulnerable and marginalised groups in society. Where was your evidence for this claim? Why are you allowed to make uncited unproven claims and other posters can't?

I have noticed a growing trend on this forum where someone will question for example the number of people claiming PIP or claiming to have health conditions. Almost immediately they will be pounced upon by posters claiming that it is ableist to even ask questions about this and we all just absolutely unquestioningly accept that everyone claiming to be ill or disabled is completely honest and there is absolutely nothing else going on that's underlying this trend. Your initial post on this thread was this:
Oh look! Another vile, ableist post on Mumsnet. Yes, those of us with chronic pain are all weak hypochondriacs and you superior, strong people can lord over us with your excellent health. Until you get hit by a bus
A ridiculously extreme response to the thread and deliberately using inflammatory language to shut down debate.

Have a day off 😂

fiftiesmum · 29/01/2025 11:42

The pressure of both parents having to work means if the child has the sniffles then rather than a rest and tlc then a gp visit is essential so the child can be back in nursery/school next day with parent worrying all day about getting that phone call to come and collect

RandomButtons · 29/01/2025 11:41

RaraRachael · 29/01/2025 11:37

I was very rarely allowed a day off school unless I was seriously ill. I think people are more likely to be absent from work with things we'd have describes as minor back in the 70s.

Oh says at his workplace some of the younger people don't even phone in to say they won't be in.

When they were expected to be locked in doors isolated from everyone for two weeks over every cough or high temperature are we really that surprised?

ShinyAppleDreamingOfTheSea · 29/01/2025 11:40

I think you should just be grateful for your own good health OP and stop judging others where you really have no idea of their actual situation and issues - physically and mentally .

tilypu · 29/01/2025 11:39

What a depressing thread.

What we are certainly becoming is a society with no empathy or understanding.

There's definitely some people that will do anything not to work, but some people on here seem to think that the majority of people with chronic conditions are taking the mickey, and have little to no understanding of what life is like for people that are suffering with these issues.

RaraRachael · 29/01/2025 11:37

I was very rarely allowed a day off school unless I was seriously ill. I think people are more likely to be absent from work with things we'd have describes as minor back in the 70s.

Oh says at his workplace some of the younger people don't even phone in to say they won't be in.

Differentstarts · 29/01/2025 11:37

Wendolino · 29/01/2025 11:36

That would have to be diagnosed by a doctor, not someone on MN.

Exactly which is why I'm confused of why your calling your friend a hypochondriac. You do understand that health anxiety is the updated term for hypochondria

Bumpitybumper · 29/01/2025 11:37

Mikiamo · 29/01/2025 11:27

If someone claims something, they should be able to back it up.

How is me asking for a source, for further research and discussion, shutting down a discussion? It's quite the opposite. What do you mean by "Under the guise of ableism"?

Why don't you want disabled people to speak?

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This is exactly what I mean. I have never even slightly insinuated that I don't want disabled people to speak and yet you are absolutely desperate to claim that I have. I simply said that we can't keep asking all posters to provides sources for their opinions/claims as it isn't the nature of this forum. We aren't writing academic essays. For example,
you have claimed that disabled people are the most vulnerable in society which is quite a bold claim when you think of other very vulnerable and marginalised groups in society. Where was your evidence for this claim? Why are you allowed to make uncited unproven claims and other posters can't?

I have noticed a growing trend on this forum where someone will question for example the number of people claiming PIP or claiming to have health conditions. Almost immediately they will be pounced upon by posters claiming that it is ableist to even ask questions about this and we all just absolutely unquestioningly accept that everyone claiming to be ill or disabled is completely honest and there is absolutely nothing else going on that's underlying this trend. Your initial post on this thread was this:
Oh look! Another vile, ableist post on Mumsnet. Yes, those of us with chronic pain are all weak hypochondriacs and you superior, strong people can lord over us with your excellent health. Until you get hit by a bus
A ridiculously extreme response to the thread and deliberately using inflammatory language to shut down debate.

fiftiesmum · 29/01/2025 11:37

Some of my opinions have been skewed by some family members - one had a high paid professional job before marriage wealthy partner sahm now single but would only work for the equivalent pay of over twenty years ago now has mental health problems not helped by having nothing to do the other has a physical disability but wants to work in a niche area but has little experience so does not work.
There are things they could do but both see it as beneath them - I am sure the majority aren't like them but it is hard when this what I see