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To tell her who stole it

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SuperLiliac · 28/01/2025 22:20

Blended family with teem girls on both sides. They get on OK but not really each other's cup of tea.

My daughter spotted a few of her girly christmas gifts had gone missing. They were in a communal area and disappeared. Deep delve searching for them to no avail.
Few days later, we come to know step daughter has lifted them. (In a bag at other parents house).
My other half doesn't want me to tell my daughter that her step sis has taken them as it will be very difficult for their relationship going forwards.
I'm uncomfortable with covering this up and would rather be honest. Aibu to want to tell the truth?

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MyGingerNinja · 29/01/2025 07:43

If it was me I think the SD should be telling your daughter herself when she is made to apologise for her behaviour.

thepariscrimefiles · 29/01/2025 07:32

Zone2NorthLondon · 28/01/2025 23:23

Read the signals
The relationship between you and dp, that’s irredeemably broken
He lies,His daughter lies. His priorities aren’t you, he wants you to collude and lie
Honestly, call it quits, protect you and your daughter. Time to split up with him

I'm normally in agreement with LTB, but that seems rather premature in this case. If her DH had refused to try and find out what had happened to OP's DD's items and had continued to be reluctant to speak to his DD about it, you might have a point, but he is going to tackle the issue with his daughter.

TeenLifeMum · 29/01/2025 07:29

I’d her give them back and apologise to dd. Hiding secrets just creates a barrier and even it eventually comes out you’ll be the bad guy and damage your own relationship with dd.

Spaceracers · 29/01/2025 07:26

I was in a similar situation as a child but had a mother who chose not to rock the boat - largely by ignoring what was happening, things would sometimes reappear but there would be no acknowledgment of who had taken them and no consequences. It did have an impact on our relationship!

SD should return, apologise and face consequences / a punishment - your DD and SD will probably be able to move on from this as your DD will see this out in the open (I also agree that kids do stupid stuff but adults should behave like adults).

2025willbemytime · 29/01/2025 07:26

I'm surprised at the ages. I thought they were older.

Since this isn't a life relationship for certain, even more of a reason to put your dd and her trust in you first. Before your lying pathetic boyfriend. He's no partner when he doesn't do right by you and your dd.

Shelby2010 · 29/01/2025 07:24

I expect your DD already knows her SS has taken them. It’s hardly likely to have been you or DH is it?!

Fairyliz · 29/01/2025 07:22

BeaAndBen · 28/01/2025 22:44

I think there's clearly a lot of work to do on their relationship and how (un)happy they are sharing a home. However, covering up the theft isn't going to fix that.

Yes more adults who blithely ignore the affects splitting up and starting new relationships will have on their children.
However much we pretend the children are fine, they are not.

Rocksaltrita · 29/01/2025 07:20

Your poor DD! Having her things stolen by someone who is allowed free rein in her home. I’d be livid if one of my DC stole from another and you should be too, step situation or not. Your DP is awful in asking you to cover this up and your DD isn’t stupid. She won’t believe you anyway. Can’t believe you’d think to protect step DD over your own!

BonneMaman77 · 29/01/2025 07:19

Given their ages and the fact it is stealing it should be dealt with in the open by adults.

Stealing is wrong and both her parents should surely be concerned and so say exactly that to SD.

Second, in my experience, kids - siblings, blended, cousins do “lift” things. In my extended family it will be for the kids to find out if we did and had it out with each other.

And then we get told off by our parents, for stealing and the fighting.

Lying and ignoring it is not the way to go IMO. I do understanding your husband it trying to keep the peace but it doesn’t help in the long run. In your case, I’d be asking SD return the stuff and apologise to your DD

Lefthanddownnumberone · 29/01/2025 07:18

murasaki · 28/01/2025 22:24

If the stuff doesn't appear back tomorrow, I'd be telling her. Tell your husband this is what will happen. And sadly she'll need a lock for her bedroom door and to keep her things in there. Which is not fair. Does your husband really think this is ok?

Edited

This he gives her 24 hours to return and apologise that’s theft

Han86 · 29/01/2025 07:16

YANBU to want to discuss it. The girls both need to be made aware the items have been found, and at SD house. Assuming SD deliberately took this items (which it sounds like hence dad wanting to cover this up) she needs to apologise. I think her dad also needs to get to the bottom of why she did this - again we can only assume jealousy at his attention being shared, or not living with him full time.

How long have you been together and when did you move in? How much had the girls interacted before then?

They might never get on fully, but need to show respect while in the same household.

Hdjdb42 · 29/01/2025 07:11

Of course she should know. Step sis needs to return them and say sorry.

Kattuccino · 29/01/2025 07:08

VotingForYourself · 29/01/2025 06:59

No way. She's a teenager who knew what she was doing not a toddler.

At no point did I say SD didn't know what she was doing 🤔

Teens do stupid things all the time. SD did something stupid out of...spite? Jealousy?

This obviously needs to be considered and addressed when the situation is being dealt with.

OP needs to keep a good relationship with her daughter but also maintain/develop a relationship with SD, whose father she lives with. Encouraging a bit of empathy (alongside being honest with her DD) would help support this relationship too.

2021x · 29/01/2025 07:06

She needs to give them back and apologise. Everyone does dumb shit when they are teenagers for a bunch of reasons. That’s why you have to learn who to out it right.

Hiding it will only make you feel resentful towards your DP.

VotingForYourself · 29/01/2025 07:02

SuperLiliac · 28/01/2025 22:39

Thanks this is pretty much how I feel about it. I think he is very concerned on where their relationship will go from.here but I see that as a separate thing.

Agreed their relationship is up to them and has to be based on the truths

VotingForYourself · 29/01/2025 06:59

Kattuccino · 29/01/2025 06:55

So your DD lives full time with her step-dad?

And SD lives almost full time with her mum so doesn't see her dad that much?

I can understand why SD is acting out - taking something important belonging to your DD because your DD has something important that used to 'belong to' SD.

I'd tell your DD the truth but encourage her to respond with understanding and compassion. She'll obviously be annoyed but SD doesn't need to be painted as a baddy. She's a teen (not generally known for their impulse control) who is hurting.

No way. She's a teenager who knew what she was doing not a toddler.

BigSilly · 29/01/2025 06:56

Something doesn't ring true here .

There are 3 options
1 SD accidentally picks up gifts along with her own present pile
2 SD deliberately takes items from box and puts them in her bag
3 DD puts them in SDs bag to get her in trouble.

You say it can't be (1) because you and your DD know the item had been deliberately removed from the box by the culprit.
If that were the case, it would have been immediately obvious to all that the item had been deliberately stolen, and the only person could have been SD. So why did you then do this massive house search before checking with SD's mum?
I think you need to consider that framing your SD is also an option

Kattuccino · 29/01/2025 06:55

So your DD lives full time with her step-dad?

And SD lives almost full time with her mum so doesn't see her dad that much?

I can understand why SD is acting out - taking something important belonging to your DD because your DD has something important that used to 'belong to' SD.

I'd tell your DD the truth but encourage her to respond with understanding and compassion. She'll obviously be annoyed but SD doesn't need to be painted as a baddy. She's a teen (not generally known for their impulse control) who is hurting.

VotingForYourself · 29/01/2025 06:54

BeaAndBen · 28/01/2025 22:34

Returned and apologised as a minimum.

Your daughter has a right to feel her stuff is secure at home. I can't imagine "oh look, it magically reappeared" is going to cut it, she's not daft.

Refusing to say what happened to her Christmas presents and how they came to be unboxed will only make her think you and her stepfather are siding with the stepsister who stole from her.

100% this. And if it's a product that's been used at all then it gets replaced

Nenen · 29/01/2025 06:51

SuperLiliac · 28/01/2025 22:56

Dad asked mum if the items were at her house. Checked room and yes they were.

You are absolutely right to be honest with your daughter, not least because (as you’ve already said yourself) the consequences of not doing so are a complete breakdown in her trust in you when she finds out (which she undoubtedly will). Perhaps if your DP and his ex had emphasised the importance of honesty and the consequences of dishonesty to their DD at an earlier stage, she wouldn’t have stolen from your DD in the first place.

I assume you and/or your DP and DD had already asked his DD whether she knew where your DD’s missing presents were before he asked the girl’s mother to check her room. If so, your DP obviously suspected his DD of lying to you all as well as theft when he asked her mum to do this. Your DP needs to ensure his DD faces up to the consequences of doing both these things - the loss of trust is huge and cannot be overcome by pretending it didn’t happen.

Your DP needs to show his DD some tough love now to ensure she understands this and has to work hard to make amends and rebuild everyone’s trust in her (which is very hard to do and takes a long time). DP’s solution is to cover up his DD’s lying and theft by lying to your DD. This is not the response his own DD needs, let alone helpful to you and your DD.

Trying to understand why she did it and address these issues is admirable but, whatever the reason behind it might be, his DD also needs his help to understand why lying and stealing are unacceptable whatever her motivation was. If he doesn’t do this, the ‘why’ simply becomes an excuse to escape the consequences of her behaviour. How you and your DP deal with this will have a profound influence on his DD’s future - and your DD too.

Many years ago, I was teaching in an independent school and a group of adolescent lads got caught stealing from the school tuckshop. It transpired that this had been going on for a protracted period of time. It started when one or two of them realised if someone distracted the lovely (and very trusting) man who ran the tuck shop, it was easy for them to steal. These were all privileged children who had been brought up to know shoplifting is wrong and they certainly didn’t go without treats. However, the peer pressure to participate in the theft in order to be part of the ‘in-crowd’ was enormous.

The thing I found most telling was the way their parents reacted to being told their son was involved (the school had clear proof with CCTV footage). Some denied their son would ever do such a thing and made every excuse under the sun, even when shown the CCTV. Others, blamed the ringleaders for ‘forcing’ their son to get involved, while others blamed the school for ‘making it too easy for them to help themselves!’ One mother blamed her son’s father for walking out on the family, saying the damage this had done to her son’s mental health was the reason why he’d done this. Almost all of them wanted it swept under the carpet and didn’t want their sons to face any meaningful consequences. Some offered to pay the money back themselves, one even offered to pay considerably more than the cost of the goods, if the school agreed not to suspend their son. I know several of those boys went on to do similar (and worse) things.

However, the parents of one boy took a completely different approach - one I admire enormously - which had a very positive impact on their son. Whilst they acknowledged the effect the peer pressure had on him, they told him he needed to face up to the consequences of the choices he’d made and helped him work on becoming more resilient to any further peer pressure or temptation when faced with a clear moral choice. They asked the headteacher if they and their son could meet with the man who’d been running the tuck-shop to apologise in person (the school had suggested each boy write a letter of apology). Their son listened to the man explaining it was not really about the cost of the goods but how badly his faith in the boys he’d known, liked and trusted for many years had been shattered and the impact this had on him, not just in school but in his personal life too. At this point, the boy broke down and asked him what he could do to make amends and rebuild his trust.

You may not be surprised to learn this boy not only went on to repay every penny for the goods he’d stolen from his own weekly pocket money, he also volunteered to help the man with menial jobs one break time each week for long after the debt was paid. Not only that but he went without tuck for a term and his parents used the money they saved to buy the man a gift. This boy is now a truly lovely young man who went on to do exceptionally well in his career.

The benefits of restorative justice to the perpetrator as well as the victim are well documented and this cannot be achieved without helping someone face up to what they’ve done. With the right support from her father, at 14 years old, your SD should be capable of doing this and work to repair the damage she’s done to her relationships with you all.

GreenSkyes · 29/01/2025 06:51

Surely she knows who's taken it. Things don't just disappear.
Step daughter is old enough to know what she did was wrong. Not dealing with the theft is just giving her validation she can take what she wants. Actions have consequences and if the don't the behaviour won't change.

TheyAreNotAngelsTheyDontCareAtAll · 29/01/2025 06:25

Nanny0gg · 28/01/2025 23:01

Can I ask why you moved two girls who clearly don't get on that well into a home together?

A female wouldn't need to ask this question

allthemiddlechildrenoftheworld · 29/01/2025 06:18

@SuperLiliac I am pretty certain that your dd realises full well that dsd has, in fact, taken her things! the dsd needs to fess up and bring them back and apologise to dd. dont try to hide the fact that she stole them in the first place but do try to get to the bottom of why!

EternalFogInMyNotSoSpoltlessMind · 29/01/2025 06:17

ToKittyornottoKitty · 28/01/2025 22:36

Not sure why you are saying lifted, it’s stolen. How are the girls parents dealing with this? Once she has given the stuff back she can apologise so DD will find out then

"Lifted" for stolen is common in the Scottish dialect.

AgentJohnson · 29/01/2025 05:51

So your OH’s solution is for you to keep schtum so that he doesn’t have to actively parent his daughter, hmmm, I’d lose respect for him for that. His request does say a lot about his parenting and I wonder what he’d do if she had done something more serious.

Your DD isn’t stupid anything less than the truth will damage your relationship with her and as her biological parent, that’s your priority, Tell your spineless OH to get your DD’s stuff back and her personal apology to your DD is a must.

Tell your OH that parenting while scared benefits no one. This is an opportunity for him to try and build a better relationship with his DD, which will probably include him having to hear that his actions have negatively impacted her.

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