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Street Harassment

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Gallstoned · 28/01/2025 19:36

AIBU to think the vast majority of teenage girls have encountered some form of minor (or major) street harassment whilst they are still at school.

I talking about on a train or walking down the street, unwanted staring, comments, unwanted attention from adult men.

I definitely did, as have my DD's.

Is this unusual or very common.

YABU - Neither me or any of my friends encountered unwanted attention from men when we were still at school (under 18)

YANBU- I have or my friends encountered unwanted attention from men whilst we were under the age of 18.

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Gallstoned · 29/01/2025 20:25

YouAgainDamnIt · 29/01/2025 19:43

I did. I even had it while my dc were with me to the point they would ask what that man was doing or who shouted from that car when they were little. I don’t have daughters and funnily enough now I have almost adult sons and am older myself, men manage to control themselves far better. My son still remembers it and would never, ever catcall a woman himself. I think it’s becoming more socially unacceptable. Hopefully..

@YouAgainDamnIt

unbelievable. My mum also had similar experiences whilst she was pregnant.

Thank you for bringing a great man into the world. Your son sounds fab 👍

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YouAgainDamnIt · 29/01/2025 19:43

I did. I even had it while my dc were with me to the point they would ask what that man was doing or who shouted from that car when they were little. I don’t have daughters and funnily enough now I have almost adult sons and am older myself, men manage to control themselves far better. My son still remembers it and would never, ever catcall a woman himself. I think it’s becoming more socially unacceptable. Hopefully..

Gallstoned · 29/01/2025 19:36

Treeleaf11 · 29/01/2025 19:33

Used to happen all the time to me cycling ir walking to school. Normally by men in vans or much older guys on the street.

They get a kick out of humiliation and intimidation for sure.
I do think they know that the younger the victim the less likely you'll call them out. Horrid. So many men do this.

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Devilsmommy · 29/01/2025 19:34

Gallstoned · 29/01/2025 19:31

Awful. Sorry to hear this @Devilsmommy

I read that rapist often start as flashers and escalate to serious crimes as their confidence increases.

Wouldn't surprise me tbh. There are way too many men who are comfortable doing this kind of thing. As women I don't think we'll ever understand it. Decent men don't understand it either

Treeleaf11 · 29/01/2025 19:33

Used to happen all the time to me cycling ir walking to school. Normally by men in vans or much older guys on the street.

Gallstoned · 29/01/2025 19:32

occultelements · 29/01/2025 19:27

I did, and it started for my daughter when she was 14. When she was 15 a grown man around my age was being revolting while I was with her, so I (very loudly, drawing attention) informed him of her age. He got some filthy looks from others, but I'm not naive enough to think he changed his behaviour. She's 18 now and regularly gets comments shouted from passing cars (usually while dressed in comfortable oversized jumpers).
It's disgusting.

Well done for calling him out @occultelements. A grown man, someone's son, possibly someone's husband and dad

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Gallstoned · 29/01/2025 19:31

Devilsmommy · 29/01/2025 19:24

Unfortunately it's completely commonplace. I remember being 13 with a couple of mates just hanging around by the shops. We got flashed by a bloke who was easily in his 30's🤮

Awful. Sorry to hear this @Devilsmommy

I read that rapist often start as flashers and escalate to serious crimes as their confidence increases.

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occultelements · 29/01/2025 19:27

I did, and it started for my daughter when she was 14. When she was 15 a grown man around my age was being revolting while I was with her, so I (very loudly, drawing attention) informed him of her age. He got some filthy looks from others, but I'm not naive enough to think he changed his behaviour. She's 18 now and regularly gets comments shouted from passing cars (usually while dressed in comfortable oversized jumpers).
It's disgusting.

Devilsmommy · 29/01/2025 19:24

Unfortunately it's completely commonplace. I remember being 13 with a couple of mates just hanging around by the shops. We got flashed by a bloke who was easily in his 30's🤮

Gallstoned · 29/01/2025 19:19

How utterly depressing that nearly all young girls experience harassment from men.
Thank you for voting

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5128gap · 29/01/2025 10:33

I don't know anyone who hasn't experienced it. Why do they do it? Well back in the day when it happened to me (80s) it was socially acceptable to sexualise school girls. The 'sexy school girl' - St Trinians, The Sun showing topless 16 year olds wearing school ties, adult women dressing as school girls for fancy dress, school uniform as another costume for the bedroom like air hostess/bunny girl/police woman. I can only conclude from this that men either have an inate desire for adolescent girls that was being catered to, or that the desire was encouraged by feeding them a diet of it. I suppose the why can only really be answered by the men who did it, and I can't imagine any of them doing an "I perv at school girls. AMA" thread anytime soon.

Glittertwins · 29/01/2025 10:31

I don't remember it happening to me but it has certainly happened to my DD in school uniform and in non school clothes.

Gallstoned · 29/01/2025 10:19

Yourfootisinmysirachamayo · 29/01/2025 05:20

Same here. Never happened to me and I only left secondary school 5 years ago. As awful as it sounds, it does make me wonder if there is/was something wrong with me!

It so dreadful that we are conditioned to believe that street harassment is complimentary.

It is simply dependent upon being female, looking vulnerable and being unfortunate enough to be in the vicinity of misogynistic men.

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Gallstoned · 29/01/2025 07:26

SD1978 · 29/01/2025 05:17

Going against the grain- but absolutely never that I am aware of. Older now, but was conventionally enough 'pretty' when you get and genuinely have absolutely no recollection of any occasions as a school kid/ young adult that I was made to feel uncomfortable.

This is a misconception. Guys don’t heckle, harass, follow, leer, assault or rape because girls are pretty.
It is not driven by lust or amazement at such beauty before their eyes.

It’s 100% about control, power, humiliation and objectification. In other words misogyny.

There was a brilliant work in the Tate Modern a few years ago with items of clothing worn by rape victims. There were jeans, jumpers, coats, hoodies, cardigans and pyjamas displayed on a wall. Amongst other things, it highlighted the ridiculous notion that men rape because of what women are wearing.

I am glad you never experienced it.

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Sceptical123 · 29/01/2025 05:26

Yourfootisinmysirachamayo · 29/01/2025 05:20

Same here. Never happened to me and I only left secondary school 5 years ago. As awful as it sounds, it does make me wonder if there is/was something wrong with me!

They probably assumed you wouldn’t take it. I wouldn’t take that as a negative!

Yourfootisinmysirachamayo · 29/01/2025 05:20

SD1978 · 29/01/2025 05:17

Going against the grain- but absolutely never that I am aware of. Older now, but was conventionally enough 'pretty' when you get and genuinely have absolutely no recollection of any occasions as a school kid/ young adult that I was made to feel uncomfortable.

Same here. Never happened to me and I only left secondary school 5 years ago. As awful as it sounds, it does make me wonder if there is/was something wrong with me!

SD1978 · 29/01/2025 05:17

Going against the grain- but absolutely never that I am aware of. Older now, but was conventionally enough 'pretty' when you get and genuinely have absolutely no recollection of any occasions as a school kid/ young adult that I was made to feel uncomfortable.

GeorgeMichaelsCat · 29/01/2025 05:07

Gallstoned · 28/01/2025 19:41

I think it is hugely common and intimidating. Why do men do this?

They see young girls who they believe they can get away with intimidating. Yes, it's all about power.

Sceptical123 · 29/01/2025 05:03

Gallstoned · 28/01/2025 21:24

@JazzyJelly
me neither.
Funny that.

This happens so often when a young girls is alone or with other very young girls

It’s bc they’re easy targets. Less likely to shout something back or react negatively. Its power. Younger men are usually more likely to do this in groups for back up if it’s an adult woman. It’s mainly about the approval of their peers and male bonding, the woman/girl is almost irrelevant. Also the school uniform isn’t necessarily a trigger for them being involuntarily sexually attracted to them - more like another indicator that they are likely too young to have the confidence to challenge them, and a ‘badge of honour’ if you will or stereotypical symbol - I’m leering at a school girl bc I’m a bloke etc.

echt · 29/01/2025 04:53

I'm 70 and can't think of a single woman or girl of my acquaintance where this issue has been raised who has not had unwelcome sexual attention - leers, whistles, shouts, touching, from boys and men from the early teens onwards. Not one.
So we're talking late 60s to date.

Why do men do it? For the same reason dogs lick their genitals - because they can.

meh2025 · 29/01/2025 04:46

stormacoming · 28/01/2025 22:21

Totally. Several times I also gave short shrift to grown men leering at my dd when she was about 14.

This, too. We would go out shopping together and some freakish creep would be leering at her only to meet me standing in front of her with a glare on my face. I had to get security once because we were in an underwear shop, I was buying her a few nice girly things, and some vomitous goblin was standing at the door leering in at her.

Not that it matters, but she was a perfectly normally dressed, pretty little girl, if anything she tended to cover up more than show any flesh to try to avoid male attention.

meh2025 · 29/01/2025 04:44

If I was to start listing all the times a man had made a creepy move towards me from the age of about 12-13 onwards, we'd be here all day, I grew up in a busy city and walked and took public transport everywhere and it was just relentless.

I was so happy when I finally started driving and could escape some of it, mid 20s. They started on my daughter in her school uniform when she turned 12 or 13 too. When she was 18 and passed her test I gave her my car and took a car loan I could ill afford so she could drive around and at least be able to escape the street harassment of mindless predatory men some of the time.

Plaided · 28/01/2025 23:19

Yes I had this pretty much every time when walking about, especially in the summer. But, according to a recent post on here apparently I should have been flattered/shrugged it off/made polite friendly banter as women were more hard skinned back in the day! If only having a hard skin could save you from potential physical and sexual violence.

ZiggyZowie · 28/01/2025 23:17

Age 14 in my school uniform walking home from school, every other day

Same age, in uniform walking dog after tea on my own, every.single. day.

SandrenaIsMyBloodType · 28/01/2025 23:13

I've seen DD14 be leered at and yelled at from a van full of men while she was wearing her school uniform. It was repugnant

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