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to complain about the state of the school lunches?

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supermaje · 28/01/2025 17:02

I’m genuinely torn about whether I’m being a bit precious here, so tell me straight. My DC’s (8 and 10) primary school lunches are, frankly, shocking. They come home starving most days because the portions are tiny, and the food sounds grim. Yesterday was “pizza” which apparently was a single slice of bread with a smattering of cheese and a bit of tomato paste. That’s not pizza, is it?! It’s toast.

They also regularly run out of options by the time the last sitting gets served, so my youngest ends up with whatever’s left, which is often jacket potatoes for the third time that week. He’s so fed up he’s asked me to start making packed lunches again.

I get that budgets are tight and schools are under pressure, but for £2.50 a day, I’d expect them to at least get a decent, filling meal. When I mentioned it casually to a teacher at pick-up, they said something like, “Oh, it’s not the worst we’ve seen!” which made me think they know it’s rubbish too but aren’t doing anything about it.

Would I be unreasonable to raise it properly with the school? I don’t want to be that parent, but surely they should be offering better meals than this? Or is this just how it is everywhere now? I don’t want to kick up a fuss if this is standard and everyone else is just putting up with it.

(And yes, I’ve seen the menu they send home. It all looks great on paper. It’s just the reality that’s dire!)

Thoughts?

OP posts:
DeffoNeedANameChange · 28/01/2025 19:42

My kids primary school is struggling financially as much as any other. They still manage to provide sensible school dinners every day. Proper portions of things like pasta bolognese, sausage and mash, chicken curry etc.

Are you in a MAT by any chance?

TeenLifeMum · 28/01/2025 19:41

Parents used to complain about portion size when dc were at primary. It was usually the parents with larger dc. Just give them a snack when they get home from school. If they’ve had breakfast, fruit at break, lunch (even if it’s small) then snack at 3.30pm then cooked dinner, that should be plenty of calories in their day.

squirrelinajar · 28/01/2025 19:40

CaptainMyCaptain · 28/01/2025 19:38

People won't pay for it via taxes is the reason. I think taxes are higher in Scandinavia so services are better. I would prefer this but most voters don't seem to agree.

Yes, I am pretty sure you are right. But for society it’s win-win.

DairyLeanne · 28/01/2025 19:39

Just provide them with a packed lunch instead

CaptainMyCaptain · 28/01/2025 19:38

squirrelinajar · 28/01/2025 19:36

I am so glad my kids were brought up in Scandinavia (free home cooked tasty food) and not in the UK. Why on earth do you put up with it?

People won't pay for it via taxes is the reason. I think taxes are higher in Scandinavia so services are better. I would prefer this but most voters don't seem to agree.

squirrelinajar · 28/01/2025 19:36

Brickiscool · 28/01/2025 17:11

I am in a school canteen everyday.

I advise your child to choose the jacket potato every single day. And make sure they accept a pudding and help themselves to the bread and salad to bulk out the food.

The actual main courses are small and vary in how good they are. The other day I genuinely couldn't cut up the quiche for a child as it was so hard!

I couldn't recognise the 'burrito' initially I assumed it was a spring roll
The Friday fish fingers are soggy and the chips often burnt.

Actually the roasts are pretty popular as is the Mac and cheese.

There is one pasta dish that is so spicy all the kids scraped it into the bin.

If I notice a kid eating absolutely nothing I go and get them extra bread.

Genuinely the only safe and filling option is the jacket potato

I am so glad my kids were brought up in Scandinavia (free home cooked tasty food) and not in the UK. Why on earth do you put up with it?

Vroomfondleswaistcoat · 28/01/2025 19:23

My eldest daughter is 34 and still remembers being vegetarian and third sitting for lunch, when the only thing that she could eat was a plate of sad salad. Non veggies used to prefer the veggie option, so that would go first, and you'd think that common sense would dictate that they would just make MORE of the veggie choice, but no.

So this isn't a recent thing.

CaptainMyCaptain · 28/01/2025 19:22

Slait · 28/01/2025 18:05

The class teacher has no input into what dinners are served, nor is it a part of their role to get involved so your line about teachers not doing anything is a bit silly. Speak to the office, and the head if necessary, who will be choosing who the contract for catering goes to.

Absolutely this. It's nothing to do with the teachers.

Bankin · 28/01/2025 19:22

PurpleThistle7 · 28/01/2025 18:25

I'm in Scotland where school lunches are free and my son packs his lunch anyway as they're just awful. Am glad they are an option for people who need them but for £2.50/day you can provide way more yourself.

I don't get places where the meals are free for everyone it's the same in London even though a lot of people must be balling in money to even afford to live in London like damn no wonder the food is mid. Where I'm from only children from poor families get the meals for free.
Edited to say and for reception -year 2

madaboutpurple · 28/01/2025 19:16

I live in the same road as a Primary ans often see Brakes lorries taking food. My dH used to be a chef and he has told me the standard from such firms is very low. The pictures on their vans are vastly different to what gets served.

Hankunamatata · 28/01/2025 19:14

Suppose it depends how the local lea works it's meals. My kids primary had their meals bused in from another school then heated up

Bristolinfeb · 28/01/2025 19:11

MyPearlCrow · 28/01/2025 17:39

My children said that the food served on my governor visit was entirely different to the food served normally. Teachers agreed!

For 2.50 a head i could make a decent, child friendly menu using cheap cuts of meat bulked out with hidden veg. Puddings could be old fashioned fruit crumbles or pies or sponges, fresh fruit salad with ice cream, or fruit/yogurt if preferred. A real pudding with fruit is not unhealthy as part of a balanced diet for primary kids who don’t stop moving.

the menus these days try too hard to be cool, serving meals alleged to be from around the world when kids just won’t eat them. We’d be better off doing large familiar crowd pleasers like shepherds pie, bolognaise, meatballs in tomato sauce with rice, lasagne, fish (breaded) and chips (oven cooked skin on wedges), ALL of which can be packed with hidden veg and are easy to make in bulk.

I would ask about food OP. The only way things get better is if people question poor standards.

Does your £2.50 include wages including cleaning up time, NI, pensions, sick pay, cleaning products and a profit?

lavendarwillow · 28/01/2025 19:10

It's £3.30 per day at my school and both my children have packed lunches every day now. Not because of the money (making packed lunches every day is a chore) but their school dinner offerings are just as you describe OP. It's appalling and the older children are served the same portions as the younger ones. Even the teacher said to me she understands why so many children have packed lunches and wouldn't touch the school dinners. Jamie Oliver, it's time for another intervention. They might not have turkey twizzlers on the menu anymore but they are served up tiny shrivelled jacket potatoes, wet meat, cold stodgy pizzas and portion sizes for a hamster.

WillimNot · 28/01/2025 19:10

My DCs original primary was like that, they also made such a huge fuss about my DS' allergies that I didn't bother and made him packed lunch instead.
DD went and tried the fish and chips on a Friday, usually one of her faves at the time. She said it was horrible, the chips were still frozen in the middle and the fish was "slimy".

When they moved school they were far better
I think it depends on which catering team they use, I think it's Chartwells that was rubbish. The next one was incredibly helpful over the allergies, even making him a special meal of he couldn't eat the days special.

Secondary school has been better. Far more choice.

TrulySpandau3 · 28/01/2025 19:06

In my DDs school pizza day is always a hit.. large doughy pizza with LOTS of cheese!!

They do have some odd things though like vegetable chow main and Mexican cottage pie.. DD always has an omelette, packed lunch or jacket on those days!

Angel delight is still always served too!

Danikm151 · 28/01/2025 19:03

My son’s school has moved to a new caterer and he’s apparently eating more now rather than just a jacket potato each day. He’s 4 so gets free meals. hopefully the positive change lasts as by some descriptions on here some meals can be rank.
Unfortunately the change in caterer means that breakfast club - that we pay for- is no longer a cooked breakfast and is a choice of cereal or toast. My son says the toast is yucky.

ShelfyElfy25 · 28/01/2025 18:52

Summerishere123 · 28/01/2025 18:35

Ours are £2.80 now. We do a pack lunch but today had to do dinners and then menu was beef or veggie burger, Harry Ramsden fish cake or jacket potato. I chose the potato for her as the others sounded awful.

Are yours provided by Dolce because that sounds same as ours. The pizza is particularly rank.

pastapeteliketoeat · 28/01/2025 18:52

Unforgettablefire · 28/01/2025 18:35

Sounds so different from the school dinners we used to have but this was juniors in the 70s.
We loved school dinners, we all got the same meal and there was nearly always seconds, and if we didn't like it we went hungry.

How come they're allowed to serve pizza and all sorts of junk food yet the parents aren't allowed to give it to their kids themselves? That would have my back up.

We generally have, on rotation:

Pizza (various toppings)
A pasta (bolognese/mac & cheese/pasta bake)
Curry or chilli with rice
Roast dinner (only chicken)
Burritos/tacos/spicy wraps
Jacket potatoes
Sandwich option
Fish and chips

So not too bad. But it would certainly be frowned (and commented!) upon it i sent cold pizza in as a packed lunch. I'd get a naughty parent bad lunch letter!

Don't get me started on the desserts. As I said in my last post, not allowed except fruit or yoghurt in packed lunches. School dinners regularly have cookies, cake, jelly and more.

I don't care if my children have a cookie or a jelly...but I do object to not being allowed to put a jelly pot in my child's lunchbox occasionally!

CandyCane457 · 28/01/2025 18:52

I’d complain/bring it up as a query with the school- but not to the teacher.
It is absolutely nothing to do with them so it’s futile. Go to the main office or arrange a meeting with the Head.

BusyMum47 · 28/01/2025 18:50

Do you know who provides your child's school lunches? Ours are via a catering company- nothing to do with the school.

MumChp · 28/01/2025 18:45

puffylovett · 28/01/2025 18:32

The pre order thing can be a bit of a red herring, as kids will change their minds when faced with the food all laid out. If my child was last sitting, often there was no portions of his pre ordered choice left.
honestly, packed lunch is safer!

At our primary school preordered is served by staff to children. You can't change your order last minute.

Secondary school my youngst will attend year we were told at intro night they do the same.

Summerishere123 · 28/01/2025 18:35

Ours are £2.80 now. We do a pack lunch but today had to do dinners and then menu was beef or veggie burger, Harry Ramsden fish cake or jacket potato. I chose the potato for her as the others sounded awful.

Unforgettablefire · 28/01/2025 18:35

Sounds so different from the school dinners we used to have but this was juniors in the 70s.
We loved school dinners, we all got the same meal and there was nearly always seconds, and if we didn't like it we went hungry.

How come they're allowed to serve pizza and all sorts of junk food yet the parents aren't allowed to give it to their kids themselves? That would have my back up.

puffylovett · 28/01/2025 18:32

The pre order thing can be a bit of a red herring, as kids will change their minds when faced with the food all laid out. If my child was last sitting, often there was no portions of his pre ordered choice left.
honestly, packed lunch is safer!

JackieGoodman · 28/01/2025 18:31

@InDogweRust that makes sense, we have our own kitchen staff, also council employed, so not for profit.