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To think, get rid of the driving restrictions, make parking easier and watch Oxford Street flourish 🤷‍♀️

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mumofoneAlonebutokay · 28/01/2025 16:44

Just that really

https://metro.co.uk/2025/01/28/oxford-street-suffers-fatal-blow-multiple-retailers-announce-leaving-22447406/

How many shops are closing in Westfield, both branches? Londoners want to drive.

Oxford Street suffers killer blow after multiple retailers say they're leaving

https://metro.co.uk/2025/01/28/oxford-street-suffers-fatal-blow-multiple-retailers-announce-leaving-22447406

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Needmorelego · 28/01/2025 19:13

@mumofoneAlonebutokay Oxford Street isn't really up-market though? Is it?
Was it ever?
Obviously Selfridges was aimed at the more "well off" crowd.
As a child (80s) I remember going there and going to C+A and BHS.
As a teen (90s) I went there for places like Top Shop.
In my 20s (00s) it was for HMV and Borders Bookshop.

mumofoneAlonebutokay · 28/01/2025 19:08

Im a londoner I've been to Oxford street many times 😄

But I don't go there anymore, as I'm in my 30s with a small dd and it's a faff getting her on the tube, plus i can't walk for long 🥺

I want to drive to places!

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mumofoneAlonebutokay · 28/01/2025 19:06

Needmorelego · 28/01/2025 18:59

@bombastix well considering how much tourists (possibly including those from Dubai) seem to buy in Primark (hint.... it's LOADS) they'd probably go wild in a big B+M.
Perhaps it could move into the empty House of Fraser and call itself by it's original name.
The fancy new department store of Billington and Maymen will be a huge success.

Edited

Yes!

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mumofoneAlonebutokay · 28/01/2025 19:06

Needmorelego · 28/01/2025 18:45

IKEA is moving in to the old Top Shop.
Obviously a smaller branch than the usual ones.
I don't know if it's going to just sell the small bits and bobs and big furniture will be just for display and you have to order it.
It will be interesting to see.
Why not a retailer like B+M though?
They sell useful household things. I went today and bought a kitchen draining board and a loo brush. Where else could I get those on Oxford Street? Do Selfridges or John Lewis sell them?
(or if they do - are they sensible prices?)
But seriously....if Oxford Street had a big branch of The Works, a big Poundland, Hobbycraft and B+M or Homebargins I'd go there considerably more often.

I personally love b&m 😄 I'm always in there etc

But I guess Oxford street is upmarket?

I'd love for there to be a giant the works there, omg

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KnickerFolder · 28/01/2025 19:02

mumofoneAlonebutokay · 28/01/2025 17:30

I do live in London

Please tell me where I can park close to Oxford street for free as a disabled person, so i can go myself 😄

Everybody can park for free on Sundays and after 6pm. The shops are open until late.

Blue badge holders get 1 hour free in paid for bays and there are some free 4 hour blue badge bays.

https://www.westminster.gov.uk/parking/disabled-parking/where-you-can-park-disabled-badge

I agree that central London needs more free disabled parking given how inaccessible the tube is for people with disabilities, especially wheelchair users. It does not need more car parks and traffic though. A 15 minute off peak bus journey can take over an hour at peak times on Park Lane.

Where you can park with a disabled badge | Westminster City Council

Information on the conditions where you can use your disabled parking badge

https://www.westminster.gov.uk/parking/disabled-parking/where-you-can-park-disabled-badge

Needmorelego · 28/01/2025 18:59

@bombastix well considering how much tourists (possibly including those from Dubai) seem to buy in Primark (hint.... it's LOADS) they'd probably go wild in a big B+M.
Perhaps it could move into the empty House of Fraser and call itself by it's original name.
The fancy new department store of Billington and Maymen will be a huge success.

titchy · 28/01/2025 18:55

OCDmama · 28/01/2025 18:12

Have you actually been to Oxford Street? Or in fact London?

No because she can't park Grin

bombastix · 28/01/2025 18:49

I love the idea of people coming from Dubai to shop on the Oxford St B+M.

Better yet, drive there. Selfridges and Uniqlo are the only reasons to go. London shopping is no longer interesting in the centre

TheNinkyNonkyIsATardis · 28/01/2025 18:47

Butterflyfern · 28/01/2025 17:09

I really don't agree that a lack of cars are the cause of the retail sector's failure. Whenever I've been to Oxford Street over the last 12 months (work commitments nearby) it's been busy, but not may people carrying multiple shopping bags.

The seeds were sown many years ago when internet shopping was so encouraged as it was cheaper for brands. So they stocked less stuff in store and people shopped in store less as there was nothing in the shops. Add in the fact that this has coincided with a reduction in product quality across all price ranges (both poor materials and inconsistent sizing) and people's wages dropping in real terms consistently since the 2007 financial crash means people just don't shop like they used to, particularly for clothes.

Imo, the retail industry has wholesale followed the opportunity for short term savings and in doing so, tanked the long term survival of the high street. I blame people like Philip Green and Mike Ashley.

Yes, I went to Oxford Street for the first time two years ago and was really disappointed by the clothing on display or even in the back store room. There were hardly any options, all spaced out in an arty fashion. It was more like the shop was an advert for the brand than a, y'know, shop.

My local high street shops have much less aesthetic appeal but at least they have stock.

DoloresODonovan · 28/01/2025 18:47

There is underground parking at Marble Arch - it isn’t only the volume of traffic which
has ruined Oxford Street and its environs of Regent Street, Bond Street, Piccadilly.

These shopping streets have had their day, existing in a collective memory, still sold
to foreign visitors as a destination shopping experience, the majority of shoppers

This is the evolution of shopping, from the great Department Stores, of which there were many, on days we would walk Oxford Street shopping for shoes, for instance,
it was our High Street, a bus ride away.

Oxford Street is currently in the process of imploding.
You are wasting energy and rhetoric OP, the Nation’s High Street is doomed.

Needmorelego · 28/01/2025 18:45

mumofoneAlonebutokay · 28/01/2025 18:27

Definitely not, although an upmarket b&m could be good, similar to ikea

IKEA is moving in to the old Top Shop.
Obviously a smaller branch than the usual ones.
I don't know if it's going to just sell the small bits and bobs and big furniture will be just for display and you have to order it.
It will be interesting to see.
Why not a retailer like B+M though?
They sell useful household things. I went today and bought a kitchen draining board and a loo brush. Where else could I get those on Oxford Street? Do Selfridges or John Lewis sell them?
(or if they do - are they sensible prices?)
But seriously....if Oxford Street had a big branch of The Works, a big Poundland, Hobbycraft and B+M or Homebargins I'd go there considerably more often.

MurdoMunro · 28/01/2025 18:43

mumofoneAlonebutokay · 28/01/2025 18:30

I don't agree that Oxford street should be changed to be something else that already exists

Oxford street is the blueprint - retail should be prioritised and people encouraged to shop

And imo making parking cheaper and more plentiful, with clear communicated routes to Oxford street would help this

Oxford street is the blueprint - retail should be prioritised and people encouraged to shop.

Why though? What’s so special about Oxford Street? Even forgetting the rest of the country, what even makes is so important for London that we spend public money in an attempt to get people to spend money in those particular businesses?

I don’t get it. It’s just a street with shops. London has so many better places to go, even just for shopping (if that’s your idea of a day out)

SpanThatWorld · 28/01/2025 18:39

This is quite the most incoherent and bonkers thing I've read in a while.

I am a lifelong Londoner. I own 2 cars. Hell will freeze over before I drive to Oxford St.

If i want multiples I'll go to Brent Cross, Westfield or maybe even Kensington High St. Mostly bus or train unless I've got something big to carry.

If i fancy a mooch, there's Muswell Hill, Hampstead, King's Cross, Wimbledon, Camden, Marylebone, Borough Market, Covent Garden... Always by public transport.

Where are these places that you plan for me to "park for cheap" and then get a bus?? Anywhere outside the Circle Line is too far away. Anywhere inside the Circle Line is full. Really, really full. Buildings above the ground, intersecting tube lines below it.

Bonkers.

Tonkall · 28/01/2025 18:34

I used to shop in Oxford Street 30.years ago (would never have chosen to drive in central London, though - the tube is just faster and easier).

But 30 years ago the shops were better, plus there wasn't the online competition. If you wanted to see loads and loads of things and choose something new, then nowhere had more stuff than Oxford Street - just giant emporiums with lots of choice. Not necessarily quirky and individual, but it really ticked the "massive shopping experience" box that few other places could match.

Now it's got loads of shitty money-laundering sweetshops and tourist tat. Interspersed with some huge surviving shops, yes, but these are mostly precisely the kind of generic mainstream shops which are being superseded by their online versions. It's a double whammy of crapness.

mumofoneAlonebutokay · 28/01/2025 18:30

mumofoneAlonebutokay · 28/01/2025 16:44

Just that really

https://metro.co.uk/2025/01/28/oxford-street-suffers-fatal-blow-multiple-retailers-announce-leaving-22447406/

How many shops are closing in Westfield, both branches? Londoners want to drive.

I don't agree that Oxford street should be changed to be something else that already exists

Oxford street is the blueprint - retail should be prioritised and people encouraged to shop

And imo making parking cheaper and more plentiful, with clear communicated routes to Oxford street would help this

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CallMeDaphne · 28/01/2025 18:30

Are you aware what is under the ground on Oxford Street, OP?

The Underground.

bombastix · 28/01/2025 18:29

Londoners aren't fussed about driving to Oxford St. They do their shopping online.

The reason it's a dump is because the rents are high and ordinary Londoners shop online: Bond St going the same way

mumofoneAlonebutokay · 28/01/2025 18:27

Needmorelego · 28/01/2025 18:25

Actually you know what Oxford Street needs.....
....a really big B+M !

Definitely not, although an upmarket b&m could be good, similar to ikea

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mumofoneAlonebutokay · 28/01/2025 18:27

I don't think independent shops belong on Oxford street really, as they're more boutiques

(Edit - my previous point was that I would have 12 months of independent pop up shops offering baked goods, flowers etc, in the place of American candy stores)

The chains need to be encouraged to keep their shops in Oxford street and that should be done by encouraging Britons in, not just tourists

Britons from far out will come on holidays but the ones in the surrounding areas can be enticed to come in

I wonder how much of the 'UK dubai shoppers' could be encouraged to holiday to London, with hotel deals? Come to London and do your clothes shop? Plus, stop by Oxford street

It's possible imo

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mumofoneAlonebutokay · 28/01/2025 18:27

Whyherewego · 28/01/2025 18:15

I have lived in Zone 1 or 2 central London for 20 plus years. In Islington it's a rare development that has underground parking these days and many new developments that go up are restricted to even not allow on street parking for residents. My sibling lives in one of these and it was built probably 15 years ago. Most councils are trying to reduce access to parking/cars. I get that people out of London may like driving in but the arteries into London are clogged. The A1 as an example is not something you want to encourage more traffic on to.
I agree it's sad to see Oxford Circus dying but the answer IMHO isn't parking. The answer is to reinvent it as a destination. Look at Coal Drops Yard as an example ... restaurants, sunny space, outdoor seating in the summer, green spaces, retail, fountains for kids, some street markets, art fairs that sort of thing gets people to visit. Going to see the same list of shops on Oxford St that you can see on any high street or mall is not inspiring people to visit

I completely disagree that londonders don't want parking tbh

I know that 'affordable' developments are going up which don't allow parking but all this does is put pressure on parking in other areas as londoners aren't giving up their cars, they're just moving in and parking elsewhere, it's a nightmare

I understand the thought that Oxford street should be developed but don't see why - it should be protected and supported as a retail destination, like Westfield is

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Needmorelego · 28/01/2025 18:25

Actually you know what Oxford Street needs.....
....a really big B+M !

fiftiesmum · 28/01/2025 18:18

Small independent shops can't survive in other towns so how would they pay rents, rates, taxes, insurance plus the cost of delivering items to them.
I hate Westfield but will go there when I need certain things (I like to actually see and feel clothing items and to see how and where they are made).
I still like Oxford street but prefer to use the back turnings to get to where I need and there are still some small shops in Soho (not those sort of shops) and fitzrovia

MurdoMunro · 28/01/2025 18:18

Deffo Coal Drops Yard, I’m not a Londoner so have my outsider eyes on but that it a MUCH more interesting place to visit and spend money. On a nice day grab a drink of something that I have no idea how to pronounce and have a game of ‘spot the fashion student’. Smashing.

HeronWing · 28/01/2025 18:16

I think it’s the worst idea I’ve heard recently, or close to it.

Iknjtjumpers · 28/01/2025 18:16

Good heavens, London does not need more cars!!! I don’t live in London but I was walking down Oxford Street on Saturday. Apart from Selfridges food hall, there wasn’t one shop that enticed me in.