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To think, get rid of the driving restrictions, make parking easier and watch Oxford Street flourish 🤷‍♀️

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mumofoneAlonebutokay · 28/01/2025 16:44

Just that really

https://metro.co.uk/2025/01/28/oxford-street-suffers-fatal-blow-multiple-retailers-announce-leaving-22447406/

How many shops are closing in Westfield, both branches? Londoners want to drive.

Oxford Street suffers killer blow after multiple retailers say they're leaving

https://metro.co.uk/2025/01/28/oxford-street-suffers-fatal-blow-multiple-retailers-announce-leaving-22447406

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StrawberrySquash · 28/01/2025 20:07

Oxford Street makes me sad, it's declined so much. I think another thing that's made it worse is the loss of the Routemaster/conductors on the new Boris buses. You used to be able to hop on and off to move between shops, but you can't do that any more. It's one place in London that really needs them. I often want to get to a shop at the other end and walking takes ages, but by the time you've reached the bus stop you're half way there/ have missed the bus.

mumofoneAlonebutokay · 28/01/2025 20:00

WhistPie · 28/01/2025 19:58

Oxford St upmarket?

You really are on a wind up OP

I didn't grow up wealthy, apologies everyone 😄😄

It's not upmarket but its definitely flagship retail stores rather than shops selling tat and things you can buy on the market, is what I meant

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WhistPie · 28/01/2025 19:58

Oxford St upmarket?

You really are on a wind up OP

HelloPossible · 28/01/2025 19:54

mumofoneAlonebutokay · 28/01/2025 19:48

So glad they're ditching the candy shops!

Yeah the council are on the case, the West side is already much better. IKEA is opening in the spring.

Firenzeflower · 28/01/2025 19:53

You’re wrong.

mumofoneAlonebutokay · 28/01/2025 19:49

Pedestrianising wouldn't improve things imo. Allow cars to come in from the surrounding areas, work with local councils to make parking cheaper and more plentiful and watch things improve, albeit slowly

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mumofoneAlonebutokay · 28/01/2025 19:48

HelloPossible · 28/01/2025 19:48

They are getting rid of the candy shops, the west side is getting better, Hannah Ricketts the London vlogger was there this month and it does look better with some new flagship shops. Have to say she does a good job encouraging tourism. All the shops looked gorgeous with stock for Valentine’s Day. People still want to shop in person.

So glad they're ditching the candy shops!

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HelloPossible · 28/01/2025 19:48

Blackbird84 · 28/01/2025 19:34

A pedestrianised Oxford street with trams and cycle lanes would be great. It’s dangerous to walk down these day as so many cars ignore pedestrian green lights. If it was safer and more pleasant, maybe increased footfall would encourage better shops. It used to be such a destination and now it’s tourist tat and those candy stores that always get accused of being money laundering fronts.

They are getting rid of the candy shops, the west side is getting better, Hannah Ricketts the London vlogger was there this month and it does look better with some new flagship shops. Have to say she does a good job encouraging tourism. All the shops looked gorgeous with stock for Valentine’s Day. People still want to shop in person.

RafaistheKingofClay · 28/01/2025 19:46

Needmorelego · 28/01/2025 19:13

@mumofoneAlonebutokay Oxford Street isn't really up-market though? Is it?
Was it ever?
Obviously Selfridges was aimed at the more "well off" crowd.
As a child (80s) I remember going there and going to C+A and BHS.
As a teen (90s) I went there for places like Top Shop.
In my 20s (00s) it was for HMV and Borders Bookshop.

Wasn’t it just where the flagship stores were rather than upmarket? It’s where you went when you went to London to see a big version of what was local and get the stuff you couldn’t get locally.

Pedestrianising it making it greener and making it a much better shopping experience would do much more for encouraging people in than trying to make more people drive there but making the journey worse.

mumofoneAlonebutokay · 28/01/2025 19:44

MurdoMunro · 28/01/2025 19:30

You saying keep saying ‘it’s special’ @mumofoneAlonebutokay but I asked why? Give me some reasons. Because it’s long and there are red buses and black cabs? C’mon, you’re going to have to do better than that, I’ve seen those all over London, what with their wheels and that.

Oxford street is just an international retail hub 😄

Things can be special without being extraordinary. Just like Westfield, it's just a mall, but you go there if you want to shop

I really think it needs saving and we'll miss it if it's gone

There are places to eat everywhere and entertainment spaces all over London (which are also dying, and londons night scene is disappearing which no-one is doing anything about)

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Blackbird84 · 28/01/2025 19:34

A pedestrianised Oxford street with trams and cycle lanes would be great. It’s dangerous to walk down these day as so many cars ignore pedestrian green lights. If it was safer and more pleasant, maybe increased footfall would encourage better shops. It used to be such a destination and now it’s tourist tat and those candy stores that always get accused of being money laundering fronts.

sometimesmovingforwards · 28/01/2025 19:33

Oxford St would probs do better if you took the opposite action and pedestrianised it entirely!

IhadaStripeyDeckchair · 28/01/2025 19:30

No, we don't want to drive

Let's face it, people don't go shopping any more. It's easier to shop online; it's more convenient, you can find more unusual & individual items, and you don't have carry everything around, it's delivered to your door.

I don't get this obsession with the high street - it's not what people want any more.

MurdoMunro · 28/01/2025 19:30

You saying keep saying ‘it’s special’ @mumofoneAlonebutokay but I asked why? Give me some reasons. Because it’s long and there are red buses and black cabs? C’mon, you’re going to have to do better than that, I’ve seen those all over London, what with their wheels and that.

Penguinmouse · 28/01/2025 19:28

Echobelly · 28/01/2025 19:25

Londoners do not want to drive. I'm a Londoner with a car but unless it's for work or you're the kind of person who has a chauffeur (or yes, may need to if you have a disability), no Londoner drives in central London when it's much quicker and easier to do it by tube and you don't have to find a parking space. The West End makes a lot of money from tourists, who also don't drive...it's just changing shopping habits, especially post Covid, that are killing it if anything is, not that you can't drive there. I feel like that's a rather outdated attitude.

I think we are still too car obsessed in modern cities, a lot of young people in London don't own cars and we need to move past the mania about cars and parking.

This. I live in East London and use my car exclusively for leaving London. It never occurs to me to drive into Central London when the tube is quicker, less stressful and cheaper. The high street isn’t suffering because of lack of parking space, it’s because the nature of bricks and mortar retail has fundamentally changed.

Echobelly · 28/01/2025 19:27

NB, before they limited traffic I had to just avoid Oxford Street during summer because the air was so foul I got an awful headache being there for 5 minutes. I'm no fan of the area but it is significantly more bearable since they cut down the traffic a bit so actually fewer vehicles can be a pull.

Whyherewego · 28/01/2025 19:26

Well even if the Mayor had some crazy power to designate swathes of parking to be free in the environs of Oxford Circus (which he doesn't as Councils control parking) how do you propose to entice people to go for this magical noisy car fume location to shop at shops that are no different to anywhere else and to buy things that are the same price or cheaper online with more choice of size? Doesn't seem to be much enthusiasm on this thread for it !

Pebbles16 · 28/01/2025 19:26

mumofoneAlonebutokay · 28/01/2025 19:08

Im a londoner I've been to Oxford street many times 😄

But I don't go there anymore, as I'm in my 30s with a small dd and it's a faff getting her on the tube, plus i can't walk for long 🥺

I want to drive to places!

Many of us don't. I cannot fathom having a car. Lifetime of zone 2 (1 if I can be arsed to walk).
It is not a local high street unless you live in a £££ flat

Echobelly · 28/01/2025 19:25

Londoners do not want to drive. I'm a Londoner with a car but unless it's for work or you're the kind of person who has a chauffeur (or yes, may need to if you have a disability), no Londoner drives in central London when it's much quicker and easier to do it by tube and you don't have to find a parking space. The West End makes a lot of money from tourists, who also don't drive...it's just changing shopping habits, especially post Covid, that are killing it if anything is, not that you can't drive there. I feel like that's a rather outdated attitude.

I think we are still too car obsessed in modern cities, a lot of young people in London don't own cars and we need to move past the mania about cars and parking.

mumofoneAlonebutokay · 28/01/2025 19:22

MurdoMunro · 28/01/2025 18:43

Oxford street is the blueprint - retail should be prioritised and people encouraged to shop.

Why though? What’s so special about Oxford Street? Even forgetting the rest of the country, what even makes is so important for London that we spend public money in an attempt to get people to spend money in those particular businesses?

I don’t get it. It’s just a street with shops. London has so many better places to go, even just for shopping (if that’s your idea of a day out)

It just is special 😄

When you think of london, you think of the long shopping streets, red busses, black taxis etc

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Penguinmouse · 28/01/2025 19:21

Oh no, paved walkways with cafes, how awful.

mumofoneAlonebutokay · 28/01/2025 19:20

youwot · 28/01/2025 18:08

Your proposal makes no sense OP.
Car ownership in London is actually decreasing, despite the population increasing.
Cars take up a lot more space than buses, bikes and other forms of public transport and are a woefully inefficient way to more large numbers of people around.
People walking and cycling spend more on average than people who drive to High Streets. Stats below.
Vehicle traffics is noisy, polluting and takes up space that can be used for people.
You want more families to enjoy a day out in central London but then complain that places like Westfield are packed. Which is it?
If you want to go shopping and have ample parking there's loads of retail parks, outlet centres and places for you to go.
"Honking horns" is not part of the "hustle and bustle" of the city. It's aggressive, often illegal and unpleasant to hear. I personally like to hear people chatting as part of the hustle and bustle.
I'm glad they are considering this and fully support it. I'd like to see Seven Dials and the Kings Road closed to through traffic too as I think that would be really nice.
content.tfl.gov.uk/walking-cycling-economic-benefits-summary-pack.pdf

I didn't complain that Westfield is packed - i just don't like Stratford

London is a loud city?? Loud noise, people, cars, big red busses are what makes it great. I don't get why those in power want to eradicate it's culture for paved areas with cafes

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Penguinmouse · 28/01/2025 19:19

Driving to Oxford Street would be absolutely mental. It would be much preferable to pedestrianise the whole thing and let people walk down it and use the space.

mumofoneAlonebutokay · 28/01/2025 19:18

Needmorelego · 28/01/2025 19:13

@mumofoneAlonebutokay Oxford Street isn't really up-market though? Is it?
Was it ever?
Obviously Selfridges was aimed at the more "well off" crowd.
As a child (80s) I remember going there and going to C+A and BHS.
As a teen (90s) I went there for places like Top Shop.
In my 20s (00s) it was for HMV and Borders Bookshop.

It always had the upmarket feel to me growing up but I was a market clothes kid 😪😄

Fair enough, maybe it's should be just for chain retail stores instead

There was an independent shops selling market clothes in one of the units at some point I remember but Oxford street should feel more upmarket at least - I'm sure it just closed down / was a front for money laundering

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Hazelville · 28/01/2025 19:15

mumofoneAlonebutokay · 28/01/2025 16:55

There's always new developments going up, I'd want some money to be invested in underground parking

And I'd want money to be given so that parking is free/subsidised in the existing surrounding car parks.

I'd run a campaign saying 'drive in, park and use the bus to get to Oxford street'

Oxford street as a retail sector mustn't be allowed to die out

Im a leftie but I'm so not a fan of sadiq

I live in London. Parking is a nightmare at the best of times and, like a pp, I can get to Oxford Street in 20 mins on public transport. I haven’t driven into the West End for over15 years and never will again as there is absolutely no need. I also like the reduction in pollution from Sadiq’s measures and do not want to see them reversed.

Internet shopping has changed the retail landscape. You can’t turn that clock back.