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Differences between Brits and Americans

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Opull · 28/01/2025 14:11

Dh and I moved to the US for his work post brexit.
I knew there would be differences but I would say that I have come to learn that those differences are far more pronounced than I had anticipated. And in ways I had never imagined or predicted. We moved to Connecticut. Its only as I have come back to the UK has it really got me thinking.

Im curious if you have experience of both cultures. And what less obvious things did you pick up on.

One that stands out for me is that in general discussions and debates are often shut down very quickly. Even over low stake issues. I remember pointing out something very obvious once and the people around me just started playing dumb. In the UK I would have no problem talking about middle aged women and how our sex lives become more comfortable and less exciting. The Americans kept trying to make out that this wasn’t necessarily the case for everyone. I guess it stems from Americans being quite optimistic and Brits being more on the cynical side. I just found it meant conversations and connections could never really go beyond a superficial level. I missed group bonding by sharing the less perfect aspects of our lives.

Has anyone else had similar less obvious observations?

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mondaytosunday · 03/03/2025 16:57

Im English and have lived here the past 24 years but I grew up in the States.
I find people look out for you more there. I was invited out to someone's house and they immediately followed up with 'do you have a car? Can we get someone to give you a lift'? When I moved here and was invited out I was expected to figure it out -sure no problem I am an adult, but it was nice that someone thought that I was in a new environment and might not know my way around. That's typical.
When I moved to a new area here people were friendly but seemed kinda shocked when I asked them to meet up for coffee. In fact the only person who asked me back was American. I sometimes felt I was forcing people to come out! They are good friends now but I was the one initiating everything for the first couple years.
I agree with general optimism. I remember getting my first car. Here it was 'oh do you really need one'? 'It's going to be very expensive.' And so on. Say the same thing in America and it's: 'Great! What model? When are you getting it? So exciting!'

trainedopossum · 03/03/2025 16:57

CarolinaInTheMorning "Martha Stewart does always pronounce the "h" though, bless her heart." Ouch 😊

Doingmybestbut · 03/03/2025 16:57

I’m married to an American. I agree with your observations. I think it makes sense that their ancestors were predominantly the ones who thought they’d have a go at a new life and a great adventure and give it a try. My ancestors stayed at home, because we thought it was a bad idea.

kiraric · 03/03/2025 16:56

On the names front, the one I find funniest is But I'm a Cheerleader - which is a film about a gay conversion camp.

One of our lead characters is a lesbian called Graham. I watched it with British friends and we had to actually pause it to discuss the important question of why you would name your daughter Graham and then be surprised she was a lesbian. As the present American, I really had nothing.

phoenixrosehere · 03/03/2025 16:50

RingoJuice · 03/03/2025 15:46

I had never ever heard of that name until I was in the UK, it’s a really strange name for us. Alastair is another one of these names that just isn’t found in the US at all.

Alastair? Really? I remember watching Passions, a soap opera in the 2000s and that was one of the main characters/villain’s name, although it was spelled Alistair; Alistair Crane.

Crushed23 · 03/03/2025 16:39

Birth is much more patriarchal and women seem much more expected to submit to men for regular vaginal exams all their life

More rubbish. The vast majority of gynaecologists and obstetricians in the US are female (85% compared to ~50% in the UK). Annual smear test are performed by a female nurse or physician's associate. The chances of you having a 'regular vaginal exam' by a male clinician are minimal, it's not 1970.

CulturalNomad · 03/03/2025 16:31

And I'm not trying to offend, really, but you think that we think about you a lot more than we do

I do have to agree with this. American politics and pop culture appear to get a lot more coverage in UK than the reverse. I'm always surprised at how mumsnetters will have strong opinions on relatively minor American politicians or even mundane domestic issues. There's very little coverage of the UK in American media beyond major political developments.

For my part, I think UK television crime dramas are far superior to the dumbed down nonsense churned out by Hollywood. Most mainstream American television is just plain bad and I have no idea why anyone on either side of the pond would bother watching it!

user9876543211 · 03/03/2025 16:28

MissConductUS · 03/03/2025 16:25

The Tamiflu was amazing. I felt noticeably better in 24 hours and it saved me from at least a few days of being miserable in bed with it. Tamiflu has been around for long enough that it's available as a generic, so it should be as cheap as chips for the NHS to offer it. That's why I was surprised they don't.

There's a very different ethic around stuff like that here. I remember when we first moved, our then doctor (private) was shocked that we wanted our kids to get flu shots and chicken pox vaccines. I remember her saying, in a horrified voice that we don't generally give those things to healthy children here. Like I was some kind of freakishly overanxious parent. We switched doctors.

MissConductUS · 03/03/2025 16:25

user9876543211 · 03/03/2025 16:20

It's a mix of both in both places. A lot of NICE guidelines are based on cost efficiency rather than treatment efficacy/outcomes. Ask 75% of women in the UK with thyroid problems how they feel and you'll get chapter and verse on the terrible treatment they receive as per the guidelines.

@MissConductUS I've just had the flu and would have killed for some Tamiflu. People were offering to send me over some but I waited it out, for two full weeks. It was horrid. I did fly back last time with Paxlovid but haven't needed it.

The Tamiflu was amazing. I felt noticeably better in 24 hours and it saved me from at least a few days of being miserable in bed with it. Tamiflu has been around for long enough that it's available as a generic, so it should be as cheap as chips for the NHS to offer it. That's why I was surprised they don't.

Thelittleweasel · 03/03/2025 16:24

@Opull

Remember that when doing the deed on TV and film they keep their underwear on!

buellerbuellerbueller · 03/03/2025 16:23

Santasbigredbobblehat · 28/01/2025 14:30

I haven't lived in the states (would like to!), but I know a fair few Americans and they all say they enjoy how frank British people are. I think we make the mistake of assuming Americans are similar in thinking to the UK as we share a language.

www.penguin.co.uk/books/435306/if-only-they-didnt-speak-english-by-jon-sopel/9781785942273

I can't recommend this book enough. It really opened my eyes to why certain issues are of importance to the majority of the American population, when we in the UK think they are very black and white (e.g. 2nd amendment).

Also helped me to understand that a lot of the US population (again, generalising) vote solely on a couple of these issue.

user9876543211 · 03/03/2025 16:20

Crushed23 · 03/03/2025 16:00

I’m not saying the NHS is great, it’s crumbling, but ethically I’d rather my care was decided by doctors than insurance agents.

What a nonsense this is. Clinicians decide what care you need in the US, not insurance executives. As I mentioned, I have had exceptional care in the US recently (fast, effective, direct contact with consultants at every step, excellent aftercare), and this is compared to PRIVATE health care in the UK, never mind the NHS which I gave up on years ago after a series of abysmal experiences.

It's a mix of both in both places. A lot of NICE guidelines are based on cost efficiency rather than treatment efficacy/outcomes. Ask 75% of women in the UK with thyroid problems how they feel and you'll get chapter and verse on the terrible treatment they receive as per the guidelines.

@MissConductUS I've just had the flu and would have killed for some Tamiflu. People were offering to send me over some but I waited it out, for two full weeks. It was horrid. I did fly back last time with Paxlovid but haven't needed it.

kiraric · 03/03/2025 16:15

Dual national and have lived in both countries so I think quite well qualified to comment.

I would say the biggest difference is that British people whinge a lot about the UK and love being negative about the UK but Americans are very patriotic. They will criticise the government sure but not the country itself and especially not the constitution.

I find the idea that a lot of Americans will espouse that there is more difference between American states than European countries is absolutely absurd.

Of course there are big differences between states and a lot of Europeans underestimate this but it's just ridiculous to claim that states which speak the same language and have been part of the same country for so long are more different than say Bulgaria and France or Lithuania and Portugal makes them look silly

mathanxiety · 03/03/2025 16:14

RingoJuice · 03/03/2025 11:28

Birth is much more patriarchal and women seem much more expected to submit to men for regular vaginal exams all their life

We don’t prefer midwives, it seems unprofessional BUT both systems have something to learn from the other tbh

The majority of OB/Gyns are women (85% vs 15%).

For primary care generalists (family medicine), the proportion is about 42% women and 58% men).

However, you will always be asked if you'd prefer to have your pap smear done by a woman.

CatStoleMyChocolate · 03/03/2025 16:14

Miniaturemom · 03/03/2025 02:37

American here, raised by Americans in the uk for most of my life, many family still over there. There is a lot of “bigging up” in American culture, they are not self deprecating like Brits. It’s easy to think they are closer friends that you thought, and when you get too deep with them too fast (because they overdo it with the initial warmth) they get really thrown.

It gets to me when a shop assistant brings things you didn’t ask for, tells you you look great in something that doesn’t, and asks personal questions at the till. They also tend to be early risers, early to eat and earlier to bed.

Most of all I don’t think people realise how deeply ingrained the “freedom TO” culture is in the states. For example the freedom to not wear a mask during Covid vs the “freedom from” not being coughed on. Freedom to own a gun vs freedom of my kids to be safe at school etc. Britain is a “freedom from” place, comparatively.

Edited

The freedom TO point is spot on!

I find this fascinating because the Americans I’ve met and know well tend not to fit many of the stereotypes - but they have usually been well-educated, well-travelled, very politically aware Americans who have a good sense of how the world sees America, not just how America sees the world. So perhaps representative of some aspects of America but not of the country as a whole.

tobee · 03/03/2025 16:08

hennybeans · 03/03/2025 10:12

I'm American but have lived in the UK for decades, dh is British.

To generalise: Americans' attitude tends to be sure, yes, that'll be great, we can do that, why not.
Brits: oh no, I couldn't possibly, that won't work, no, never, just no.

Americans are happier to talk about money and there is much less stigma showing off your wealth. I think the feeling is that in America anyone could possibly be rich one day so if you have it, enjoy it and flaunt it. An American sees an expensive car and thinks wow, look at that, that's great and I'm going to have one of those one day. Brit just thinks "twat".

Brits think it's distasteful to show wealth, cringe. Although people obviously do have fancy cars, etc so it's complex.

Religion is so much more part of life in America as well.

I think that we don't like to talk about money etc in the U.K. because, historically, the "top group" of people in British society were landed gentry and the whole concept of earning money and spending it was entirely different.

Landed gentry historically don't have jobs and don't buy items; they have houses that they've inherited from their ancestors and it is furnished with furniture that was already there, or at worst, handed down from their relatives. It's vulgar to spend money on material things. Which is why you get the upper classes living in vast uncomfortable houses (castles 😃) with ancient plumbing and heating etc. in films and books. You don't modernise.

Plus want to be part of the landed gentry or upper class? Tough you have to be born into it. You can't even marry into it unless you are also upper class.

This is probably very much in the past and a lot of it is myth. But that attitude to money in Britain has infiltrated British society and still lingers.

Americans got rid of British rule and set up the country to their own liking. And social mobility is possible. Earning money is a good thing. Materialism is good and to be celebrated in The USA.

These are my thoughts. Don't know if others would concur?

dreamingbohemian · 03/03/2025 16:08

Crushed23 · 03/03/2025 16:00

I’m not saying the NHS is great, it’s crumbling, but ethically I’d rather my care was decided by doctors than insurance agents.

What a nonsense this is. Clinicians decide what care you need in the US, not insurance executives. As I mentioned, I have had exceptional care in the US recently (fast, effective, direct contact with consultants at every step, excellent aftercare), and this is compared to PRIVATE health care in the UK, never mind the NHS which I gave up on years ago after a series of abysmal experiences.

Yes it's not really doctors deciding what treatment you can get in the UK is it? It's the budgets. People die in this country from diseases and conditions that are routinely tested for or vaccinated in other countries, but the NHS doesn't do because not enough people die to make it worth the costs.

I was given a diagnostic test in the UK that I later found is banned in the US because of stroke risks. There's a much better and safer test they use in the US but of course it's not available in the UK.

user9876543211 · 03/03/2025 16:08

Dramatic · 03/03/2025 14:38

Yet Americans (mostly on tiktok) will try and say there is no American culture whatsoever and that American states are more different from each other than European countries which is just batshit.

Right. So what exactly is your experience that makes your opinion more valid or knowledgable than that of someone who actually lives there?

CheerfulYank · 03/03/2025 16:08

Cruer · 03/03/2025 15:35

Dh and I moved over there 2 years ago. DH’s salary was 3x the amount he gets here but I really wasn’t happy so we came back.

One surprising thing I found was that Americans tend not want to break the veneer that have their shit together. I had my baby out there and would say stuff like I’m going to “bloody murder dh, he keeps doing x”. And instead of joining in and having that shared social experience of airing our frustrations my American friends would try troubleshooting or laugh. I found it really isolating. I missed having my grievances validated. Who doesn’t like a moan sesh? The always positive thing was weird at first. Strangers will compliment
and quite frequently too. I kind of found it insincere at first but I adjusted.

And I also found that Americans never want to go ANYWHERE near controversy. And would shut down conversations/discussions that were in any way contentious. A few times we were at dinner where I would sort of play devils advocate/outline an alternative view. And every single time the Americans perceived this as me actually holding these views. With my British friends it would be seen as an interesting thought exercise. But the Americans didn’t even want to entertain it. Very odd to me.

And then obviously the whole sarcasm thing. I didn’t realise a lot of the things we say to kids in the UK is quite sarcastic when they are upset/needing comfort. American friends would hear me say stuff to my ds and have funny reactions. Like it’s not that literal!

Edited

My friends and I love nothing more than complaining to each other 🤣 Sounds like an off group.

mathanxiety · 03/03/2025 16:07

ChevyCamaro · 03/03/2025 15:52

Yes of course they do- they are the health care provider rather than a profit making insurance company. I’m not saying the NHS is great, it’s crumbling, but ethically I’d rather my care was decided by doctors than insurance agents.

It's a bit of an overstatement to assert that all treatment is decided by "insurance agents".

Treatment options for the majority of reasons you'd see a doctor are set forth in clinical practice guidelines, developed through a meticulous and ongoing review of best practices by panels that include generalists and specialists in all branches of medicine.

Beat practices means cost effectiveness is taken into account. The CPGs are similar to best practices adhered to by the NHS. However, a lot of British people don't realise that cost is a factor in the NHS too.

Dramatic · 03/03/2025 16:07

ChevyCamaro · 03/03/2025 15:34

I do think people from Manhattan are more different to people from Texas than people from Germany and France are from each other, yes. Definitely.

I don't think you're right but also Germany and France are very close to each other, people from Hungary and people from Ireland are way more different than people from New York and Texas.

CheerfulYank · 03/03/2025 16:06

IggyAce · 03/03/2025 15:23

After a holiday to New York I was shocked that most baristas were unable to spell or pronounce my dd name, one even questioned if it was genuine! What is this weird unpronounceable name you wonder: Imogen.

Yes, it’s just not a name here at all. Isn’t that odd? I mean, I’m sure there have been some born in the US, but I’ve never met one and only know it’s a name from my years on Mumsnet.

Jemima is also never used here, but that’s probably because of the pancake syrup.

BaMamma · 03/03/2025 16:03

ThatMerryReader · 03/03/2025 15:28

Brits are fat, Americans are super fat.

Poor Americans are fat, rich and middle class americans, less so.

BaMamma · 03/03/2025 16:02

ThatMerryReader · 03/03/2025 15:28

Brits are fat, Americans are super fat.

Poor Americans are fat, rich and middle class americans, less so.

CheerfulYank · 03/03/2025 16:02

Grannyinnwaiting · 03/03/2025 14:46

American are v v uptight about underage drinking plus the legal age is 21 which seems mad to Brits. I recall a case where a stay at home mum was hailed for 27 months for allowing teens to have beer and wine at a party - she had made them hand over their car keys and sleep over so and was present all night to reduce and risks and she still did time. as they were not driving they were not b young teens. Seems crazy
to us- i'd have defo gotten jail time as I accepted underage drinking was pretty normal

Not so much anymore. I have a 17 year old son. He goes out on the weekends and drinks, as do many of his friends. I know people who do think I’m a bit more open with him about it than they are with their kids, but for the most part we know what our kids are up to and don’t care as long as they aren’t driving. My personal rules are that he has to call me if anyone seems really, really ill and needs to be seen for alcohol poisoning, or if anyone needs a ride or is trying to drive, or if there are boys there who seem predatory towards girls who are too drunk to know what’s going on. So far, he follows those rules and always has, so no issues here.

As far as the OP, I’m a rural Midwestern American and have been my whole life. My friends and I talk about our middle aged sex lives all the time 🤷‍♀️ I’m also absolutely for common sense gun control.

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