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To be so angry sorting out my parents stuff

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DazedorBemused · 28/01/2025 10:27

I've just cleared another carload of stuff from my parents attic. They were born either side of WW2, and talked. Talked so much about rationing, poverty, striking, unions, etc.
My brother was occasionally ill as a child. To compensate he had fancy Lego, computers when they first came out, hand held video games.
The contrast between his pricy toys and my enjoy your family board game type stuff is obvious.
Then my parents got into collecting stuff - porcelain, dinner services, up scaled their Christmas decorations again and again.

I'm sorting through all this stuff and finding receipts for expensive trivial stuff in the early 90s when I was at uni, working two term time jobs and full-time in the holidays and I'm a 50 year old woman upset at having to go to the tip again.

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MaggieFS · 30/01/2025 11:26

I appreciate you've caveated "some" but I think what's been fairly common amongst those of us having a grumble is that we have had guilt and obligation foisted upon us due to sentimentality or perceived but non-existent value. "You won't just throw all this out will you?". Well what else am I supposed to do with it? So we don't have a constructive conversation because she gets upset and carried on like an ostrich.

She can live however she likes, but she needs to be conscious of the implications.

(Plus there's a chasm of space in between the state of a lot of houses described here and a "bare" home.

heartsofmine · 30/01/2025 11:17

This whole thread makes me sad.
Some people on here are slagging off their parents because they pleaded poverty but aload of ornaments etc has been found in attic.
A lot of this stuff may have been presents over 40-50years.
Older people were not in Costa every week, using an expensive mobile phone, driving two cars usually people carriers, going on holidays abroad.
You get the picture. Things 'were' probably difficult.
What did some of you want your parents to live in a bare house and not have anything nice just so you don't have to clear it out for eight months.

BogRollBOGOF · 30/01/2025 11:06

It's not about parents spending their money as they wish.

It's about favouritism and unequal distribution of love, financial support and expectations.

It's about the emotional load of dealing with valued possessions. That's hard in itself. Add in bereavement. But when that stuff has had decades of inflated value (emotional and perceived financial) that makes it harder. When there's nowhere for that stuff to go on to to be of use, to be of value and even the charity shop struggles to shift it for £1 because they're drowning in a generation of it. Where stuff that should have had value is mouldy, motheaten and a health hazard because it wasn't looked after. When possessions are kept in chaotic conditions so you're trying to find "treasures" in trash. Where the property itself is degrading because it hasn't been looked after. Where quality of life has been affected for decades because of worthless, chaotic possessions.
When rational conversation about it has been blocked for years, and you've been prohibited in breaking it down into managable chunks. When you know that when you pick up a magazine from April 1993, you'll hear your parent's voice in your head saying "but I haven't read that article yet". And those decades of procrastination, denial and emotion are lumped on to the next generation at their hardest emotional level.
That is worth anger.

I don't care what DM spends her money on. A great life on theatre trips, meals out, socialising. Great. Genuinely great. I don't mind her buying stuff that brings a glow of happiness. But the line is when that stuff is past use, broken, out-dated, out-grown, rotten and it's been hoarded for years, with offers to help blocked and the problem has been kicked down the lines for decades until they're too frail to deal with it, then eventually too dead. When you go into the house and there's a "new" piece of furniture from the clear out of Margaret's mum's house or a "bargain" at the charity shop, but she still won't clear out the chair that collapsed in 2004 because it's OK if you delicately put your weight over the right leg and don't lean back.

And then when the house is finally empty, how to make it sellable after decades of neglect? Do we pool together and put time and money in to strip out and replace the threadbare carpets the same age as middle-aged me? Do we take a potential loss of (£)££,£££ because the house is not fit to be lived in straight away and needs to be sold at "development opportunity" prices rather than a family home.

Wartime childhoods, rationing and abundance later in life are a perfect cocktail for hoarding disorder, which is as harmful as other disorders like eating disorders or addictions like alcoholism. But it's less understood. Really it's about control. The illusion of controlling the items and the perception of stability. But the house of cards of this disordered lifestyle falls most heavily on the descendents who have to clear up the aftermath.

QuimCarrey · 30/01/2025 10:17

CruCru · 30/01/2025 10:16

A friend has a house bursting at the seams because she brought home a lot of stuff from her parents’ house when they died. Her brothers were not particularly helpful but the whole family are in agreement that she mustn’t get rid of these things. Despite them not being useful to her in any way.

That's all their birthday and Christmas presents sorted then!

CruCru · 30/01/2025 10:16

A friend has a house bursting at the seams because she brought home a lot of stuff from her parents’ house when they died. Her brothers were not particularly helpful but the whole family are in agreement that she mustn’t get rid of these things. Despite them not being useful to her in any way.

GrumblingRose · 30/01/2025 10:06

Neighbours adult children across the road from us skipped a lot of stuff plus some of it they laid out on the drive ( it was summer )and it was surprising how much they got rid of that way . One man's trash another man's treasure .

Longleggedgiraffe · 30/01/2025 09:48

KimberleyClark · 28/01/2025 11:14

What made me sad when clearing out my MIL’s house was finding all the lovely things we’d given her as Christmas and birthday presents had never been opened or used. She had that keeping things for best mentality.

I can definitely relate to this. Toiletry sets were handed out to be used, and clothes, stillin their wrappers,went to Charity shops. I now make a point of using everything I am given.

WoolySnail · 30/01/2025 09:17

sixtyandfabulousofcourse · 30/01/2025 08:45

is your brother helping? take what you want get a house clearance in and walk away or your MH will continue to suffer

Of course he isn't 😕

WoolySnail · 30/01/2025 09:06

Whitste1 · 29/01/2025 20:54

I feel so sorry for you OP and I feel angry at your parents for favouring your brother in every aspect of his life whilst you struggled and was left completely unsupported.

Sadly, I hear of these tales time and time again, only for the magnitude of the favouritism coming to light in times of death when private documents are discovered.

If they have passed, have you had sight of the Will? The reason I ask is it's ok you putting in the graft clearing all their tat only for them to assign EVERYTHING to their golden child. Awful, but it has happened to extended family members of mine who have been left completely blindsided by the outcome.

They split it 50/50, despite giving him thousands towards buying properties that they also didn't do for op!

QuimCarrey · 30/01/2025 09:04

PigInAHouse · 30/01/2025 08:48

They separate out the stuff they can sell, generally.

Which means being able to sell it viably of course. There's probably no item that someone on the planet wouldn't pay something for, but it still has to make business sense and justify admin, storage and selling costs.

PigInAHouse · 30/01/2025 08:48

comoatoupeira · 30/01/2025 08:46

I mean do they separate out the stuff that people would want or could use, and put the rest in the bin? Or do they just bin everything?

They separate out the stuff they can sell, generally.

WildAquaBiscuit · 30/01/2025 08:47

It's awful isn't it. How much money they wasted and you struggled. I feel your pain. And disposal is such a task these days. You'll get there and it'll just be a memory

comoatoupeira · 30/01/2025 08:46

I mean do they separate out the stuff that people would want or could use, and put the rest in the bin? Or do they just bin everything?

sixtyandfabulousofcourse · 30/01/2025 08:45

is your brother helping? take what you want get a house clearance in and walk away or your MH will continue to suffer

PigInAHouse · 30/01/2025 08:26

comoatoupeira · 30/01/2025 08:16

but what do the house clearance companies do with all the stuff? If it's landfill / incinerator, I wouldn't be OK with that.

No one wants most of this stuff. No one wants to buy it, charity shops don’t want it. What do you suggest happens to it?

QuimCarrey · 30/01/2025 08:18

comoatoupeira · 30/01/2025 08:16

but what do the house clearance companies do with all the stuff? If it's landfill / incinerator, I wouldn't be OK with that.

What would you like to be done with any items that nobody wants to take? Things that a charity shop won't accept, that there aren't any obvious buyers for.

comoatoupeira · 30/01/2025 08:16

but what do the house clearance companies do with all the stuff? If it's landfill / incinerator, I wouldn't be OK with that.

Letskeepcalm · 30/01/2025 08:14

OVienna · 30/01/2025 07:53

It's all fallen on her and the point is that her brother was also routinely bailed out. No standing on his own two feet there.

Yes, I take your point.

Spriterat · 30/01/2025 08:01

I am so sorry you are going through this. I am going through similar. My mum isn’t gone but we are trying to sort her house out. She is a hoarder and she has rooms you literally can’t get into. Growing up there was not enough money and there were fights about debts etc.. I am going through her things and I am finding boxes of glasses with price labels still on, clothes with price labels on. Trinkets and souvenirs that have never been opened since the day of purchase. Gift sets of toiletries - years out of date - never opened. Probably bought for gifts then forgotten about. It is criminal the amount of stuff that needs to go straight into a bin. The only saving grace is the charity shops are doing well out of it, so some good will come from it all eventually.

OVienna · 30/01/2025 07:53

Letskeepcalm · 30/01/2025 06:58

Wholeheartedly agree with you. We are comfortable in retirement, and have helped our children financially, but I think generally they need to standbon there own two feet. I'd like to think something will be left for our children, but who knows with care costs.
But reading these comments on here definitely makes me think about 'clearing out' a bit. I don't want to leave unnecessary clutter behind ( but I suppose as we age who will decide what ' clutter' is).

It's all fallen on her and the point is that her brother was also routinely bailed out. No standing on his own two feet there.

Isinglass20 · 30/01/2025 07:51

Tothelefttotheleft

No. Taken without permission and I feel she knew the artist’s work which I did not at the time - same for the Peter Scott.

The thing I’ve heard is certain individuals exploit the stress and upset of the family dealing with house clearance of the parents property and take items they fancy or know are of value.

That includes professional house clearances where unrecognised items but recognised by house clearance companies who have links with antique dealers and foreign buyers and auction these items for considerable profits particularly Indian and Chinese markets. These have been brought back by soldiers airmen navy after WW2

Letskeepcalm · 30/01/2025 06:58

RoastDinnerSmellsNice · 28/01/2025 11:26

OP, can I just ask where your brother stands with all the work of clearing your parent's house? Has he contributed to this in any way, or has it all fallen to you?

With regard to what you seem to perceive as your parents having money while you struggled, they probably thought that they were teaching you how to manage money, and keep your head above water even when times were tough. My children would probably think that I could have helped them more financially, but if as a parent you are constantly supporting your adult children financially, they are not learning how to budget and cope on what they have. Obviously there are circumstances where adult children do need financial assistance, but I believe that generally once we reach adulthood, we should earn our own living, and live within our means.

Wholeheartedly agree with you. We are comfortable in retirement, and have helped our children financially, but I think generally they need to standbon there own two feet. I'd like to think something will be left for our children, but who knows with care costs.
But reading these comments on here definitely makes me think about 'clearing out' a bit. I don't want to leave unnecessary clutter behind ( but I suppose as we age who will decide what ' clutter' is).

Letskeepcalm · 30/01/2025 06:32

Dearg · 28/01/2025 10:34

Emptying a parent’s house is hard at the best of times, especially if they are gone. Lots of emotional triggers and memories.

Sounds like your parents fortunes improved as their family grew up, and they enjoyed spending their disposable income.

It’s just stuff Op, but your post suggests you are attaching significance to it as a reminder of something you feel you missed.

Is it possible that you felt overlooked as a younger child/ teen as your brother needed/ got more attention because of his bouts of ill-health?

Bereavement counselling is often recommended on MN. I have not had it myself, it it may be worth looking into. My GP has referred a friend of mine in the past, so if you want to go down that route, perhaps talk to them first?

I think you've hit the nail on the head here 👌

Poppins21 · 30/01/2025 04:40

ArtTheClown · 29/01/2025 20:37

Went to uni in the early 90s from a poor background and had to work 3 jobs????
Not buying it.

Went to uni in the early 90s from a not-poor backgound but with parents who refused to contribute.
Does no-one actually read any more?

If you didn’t get the grant, due to parents income you could only get the loan which was £1500 ish a year but dropped to £1100 in year 3. The hall fees were £1800 a year so before I did anything I was £300 a year short. There was no minimum wage, I earned £3 an hour so I had 3 part time jobs which I juggled I worked about 30hrs in term term.

tothelefttotheleft · 30/01/2025 01:08

@Isinglass20

Did the friend have permission to take the Ravillious?