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To be so angry sorting out my parents stuff

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DazedorBemused · 28/01/2025 10:27

I've just cleared another carload of stuff from my parents attic. They were born either side of WW2, and talked. Talked so much about rationing, poverty, striking, unions, etc.
My brother was occasionally ill as a child. To compensate he had fancy Lego, computers when they first came out, hand held video games.
The contrast between his pricy toys and my enjoy your family board game type stuff is obvious.
Then my parents got into collecting stuff - porcelain, dinner services, up scaled their Christmas decorations again and again.

I'm sorting through all this stuff and finding receipts for expensive trivial stuff in the early 90s when I was at uni, working two term time jobs and full-time in the holidays and I'm a 50 year old woman upset at having to go to the tip again.

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GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER · 28/01/2025 12:41

Funnily enough it didn’t occur to me until I was long grown up, to think how unfair it was, that somehow there was the money for my brother to attend a boarding school (admittedly relatively a lot cheaper then) while I never had the riding lessons I so badly wanted - 7/6d (35p) an hour.

TangerineClementine · 28/01/2025 12:41

My PILs (born in 1939/1940) also always talked a lot about rationing and were very stingy with presents for their grandchildren. To be fair unlike your parents they lived very frugally. When FIL died and DH was helping MIL to sort out their finances, he was absolutely stunned to find out how much they had sitting in savings. As well as FIL being able to retire in his 50s with a generous pension.

Marilyn17 · 28/01/2025 12:41

I completely understand. My FIL passed away recently, had us all running around for him for years. He was extremely tight with my dh and his sister, never helped with uni or anything over the years. Never gave grandchildren a penny, we thought it was because he was skint. Yes, he was skint when he died because we've found receipts and bank statements going back over 20 years showing what he blew all his money on. There wasn't enough to pay for his funeral, we've had to stump up for it between us. The final insult is that he'd left hardly anything to his own family but has specifically named his ladyfriend as a beneficiary with a definite amount going to her.

GrumblingRose · 28/01/2025 12:40

Daysgo · 28/01/2025 12:27

I'd say to anyone of a certain age and thinking what your children may find when you're gone, to prioritise getting rid of things like diaries, notebooks etc anywhere you may have written about your children nastily, horribly, unfairly etc. Dont let that be the last communication from you that they'll see.

Add sex toys to that too !

Codlingmoths · 28/01/2025 12:40

Spirallingdownwards · 28/01/2025 11:59

You do realise house clearance companies charge a fortune You aren't doing your kids any favours by suggesting this. Indeed quite the opposite.

Edited

It’s her estate it would come out of, as long as there’s money there for it why is that a problem? She is doing her kids a favour by removing the obligation feeling.

milveycrohn · 28/01/2025 12:38

I am disappointed you are taking fine porcelain to the tip.
Why not take it all to one of the many charity shops about?

MaggieFS · 28/01/2025 12:38

Moier · 28/01/2025 11:58

Some of that stuff will be worth a fortune.
Follow Dan Hatfield.
Look on This Mornings website.
All those old games n toys.
Not to mention the things your parents collected.

But it's only a fortune if you can realise the value, which means sorting it from that tat in the first place and then having the inclination to find a way to sell it. My DM just gets stuck on her Vinted login and gets no further. It's infuriating.

Georgyporky · 28/01/2025 12:38

I'd never use a House Clearance company, & have dissuaded friends from doing so.
When DM died, DF was in a wheelchair & I cleared out her things.

I found >£16,000 - no typo, over sixteen thousand.

Tubetrain · 28/01/2025 12:37

DazedorBemused · 28/01/2025 11:50

Thank you everyone, lots to take from your posts.

My slightly younger brother is of course no where to be seen on this. Luckily DH is really supportive.

I'm angry and sad, I think, at the disconnect between what they said and what they did.
I know all the stories, the stress and the pessimism behind their lives. I get that it helped shape me, good and possibly needlessly. And they never asked how I felt or just repeated their hard luck times.
During my uni days, they were both threatened with redundancy, made redundant with big payouts then quickly found even better jobs.
So I worked during uni, two years later my brother didn't, got his overdrafts paid off and my parents spent even in today's money eyewatering sums on holidays.

My brother was bailed up and given a substantial house deposit, again just five years ago.
Most of the stuff I'm sorting today happens to come from the period that DH & I were really over reached, investing in work and our home for the future. So it's particularly acute finding the paperwork and stuff plus spending the time now on it.

I am very tempted to get a skip and hurl every last collectable Franklin mint piece and investment antique ( there should be a special place in hell for those oily tongued dealers) into it off the balcony.

Why are you doing this? Tell them they can do it themselves, get the golden child to do it, or pay someone.

faffadoodledo · 28/01/2025 12:37

You say your brother was occasionally ill? What? with coughs and colds? or a medical condition which he lives with and is a bit sh*t? If it's the latter - even mildly - I'd trade good health for stuff any time.

Plus what everyone else has said about clearing parental homes. It's tough. Acknowledge that.

And try to remember different generations have different hang ups about money. My mother was brought up in poverty by a single mother because her dad was killed in the war. As she and dad did well she developed a taste for luxury brands and extravagant gifts for people. Both of things repelled me a bit (yes, I was probably a snobby little prig!). But I completely understand why she was the way she was.

Good luck. It's a rocky moment, losing parents

ChateauMargaux · 28/01/2025 12:34

You are no more responsible for turning their investment antiques / junk into cash than if they had bought shares in an ostrich farm (like my parents did.. though I am starting to feel some gratitude to my father in his attempts to liquidate some of his own investments).

Why do so many parents treat their daughters so differently to their sons.... I hope it rooted in beliefs and habits that have long since faded and that I do better. My mother was / is so bitter about how the boys were treated in her family and she did the same to my brother.

sjs42 · 28/01/2025 12:33

My MIL made a serious consideration of us when she was alive, so that when she died, this house stuff was as easy as it could possibly be.

She gave my DD most of her jewellery, she cleared anything into the charity shop that she didn't want/need. Her attic was empty. Her and FIL had a little bungalow - so when they had both died, what we did was to go through it quickly and collect things like photos/sentimental items. We then employed house clearers to do the rest. You don't even have to pay them. They sell stuff (eg a washing machine and dryer that were quite new, furniture in decent condition etc) and they then give you money. You can really only do this if you have made sure that there isn't anything of value (sentimental/monetary) first - but MIL had left everything very tidy/organised so that this was not difficult.

She knew she had cancer, so she had some rough idea of what was going to happen. I am very grateful for what she did. She was a good person who was unafraid to face reality and speak/act clearly and practically.

NautilusLionfish · 28/01/2025 12:30

@DazedorBemused The main fuckity issue here is that there was such a difference in what your brother got and what you got. And yet you are the one to sort things (and probably one that provided care). Its shit. Unfortunately women and girls are not valued as much as boys/men yet shoulder the bulk of unpaid care. It sucks. Hope we do better with each generation.

As to the stuff, as upsetting as it is, we all but stuff we dont need. It probably fills a certain emptiness or gives hope for a better tomorrow (when the visitors come. When x happens I will wear this or that). It sucks but it is life and I bet most of us are guilty and our children will be horrified (or they may buy more - thanks Amazon and Shein and Temu).

I dont have much to offer except, strength to you op.

PigInAHouse · 28/01/2025 12:29

catmothertes1 · 28/01/2025 12:24

I must say that I don't understand what the OP is trying to say. Is it resentment at having to clear the house or resentment that her parents bought themselves nice things?

I don’t think the OP is that difficult to comprehend really, and there are multiple things she’s resentful about (it doesn’t have to just be limited to one thing).
Here’s what I took from her post

  • She’s resentful that while she was struggling and working 2 jobs, her parents were simultaneously pleading poverty and also buying themselves lots of ‘stuff’.
  • That stuff that they bought is now her job to clear out, and the golden child brother isn’t offering any help.
  • Said golden child brother had far more money spent on him as a child than she did.

It’s completely normal to be angry when people die, it’s part of the grief process. It’s even more normal to harbour anger/resentment when you feel you were unfairly treated as a child/young adult in comparison to a sibling. Especially when you’re the one expected to pick up the pieces after death.
I can’t see anywhere that suggests the OP is just cross that they bought themselves nice things.

thepariscrimefiles · 28/01/2025 12:27

DazedorBemused · 28/01/2025 11:50

Thank you everyone, lots to take from your posts.

My slightly younger brother is of course no where to be seen on this. Luckily DH is really supportive.

I'm angry and sad, I think, at the disconnect between what they said and what they did.
I know all the stories, the stress and the pessimism behind their lives. I get that it helped shape me, good and possibly needlessly. And they never asked how I felt or just repeated their hard luck times.
During my uni days, they were both threatened with redundancy, made redundant with big payouts then quickly found even better jobs.
So I worked during uni, two years later my brother didn't, got his overdrafts paid off and my parents spent even in today's money eyewatering sums on holidays.

My brother was bailed up and given a substantial house deposit, again just five years ago.
Most of the stuff I'm sorting today happens to come from the period that DH & I were really over reached, investing in work and our home for the future. So it's particularly acute finding the paperwork and stuff plus spending the time now on it.

I am very tempted to get a skip and hurl every last collectable Franklin mint piece and investment antique ( there should be a special place in hell for those oily tongued dealers) into it off the balcony.

Do get a skip and chuck everything in, unless obviously valuable and saleable.

TheNinkyNonkyIsATardis · 28/01/2025 12:27

Ahh, that's tough.

I've always been the dependable/stolid one of my family, whilst the others got fancy gifts to (unsuccessfully) buy their love.

The worst one was a Christmas Day in my twenties where my mum had bought one gift for me and about a dozen for my sister. I sat there taking gifts from under the tree, handing gift after gift out to other people, and it becoming increasingly obvious that I only had one. I ended up tearing up when I was turning one over and my mum took it out of my hands and said that was for my sister too.

My sister passed me one of her gifts saying she thought it had been labelled wrongly by mistake. My dad panicked and went upstairs and bunged me £100 in an envelope saying it was to buy a sat nav (he's a tech expert and would absolutely have just given me the tech if he were buying me one).

For those who might call this precious, my dad always gave us a generous sum of £250 for Christmas and my mum would always buy us a few second-hand vintage gifts.

But it will never not hurt to remember that when Christmas shopping, my mum thought one present would be fine for me before buying a pile for my sister. That she sat there, wrapping them, writing my sister's name on the label again and again, and didn't think, "hang on".

I confronted her with it that night because I was crying, and got excuses about "always being so busy". But that's what I got all my childhood - the older ones were keeping her busy, so I had to make do.

Daysgo · 28/01/2025 12:27

I'd say to anyone of a certain age and thinking what your children may find when you're gone, to prioritise getting rid of things like diaries, notebooks etc anywhere you may have written about your children nastily, horribly, unfairly etc. Dont let that be the last communication from you that they'll see.

ShinyPebble32 · 28/01/2025 12:27

I’m sorry you’re going through this - I’ve just had a very similar experience clearing my Mum’s things, and it really stings, doesn’t it? 💐
In a weird way it’s helped me to feel less sad about her move to care. It felt nice to sort her clothes etc, bringing order to chaos. I still feel a little bit of resentment about my childhood, but mostly it’s made me feel extremely proud that I’m giving my DS everything that I never had. He has savings in his ISA, premium bonds, a pricey but very rewarding hobby, enough toys and art materials so there’s no limit to his creativity, lives in a area that will be a positive influence… as well as all the things money can’t buy, like motivation and encouragement, help with his homework, and tonnes of affection every day. It feels so good to break the cycle.

DazzlingCuckoos · 28/01/2025 12:26

I get it. It's understandable to feel upset and bitter, especially when golden child is nowhere to be seen in this process.

I'd stop sorting it out if I were you and get a company in that will do it for you.

When my DGPs died, my mum got a company in that would auction off what it could (whether they were expensive antiques or literally the toaster from the kitchen) and disposed of what was unsaleable.

They obviously took a cut of whatever they could sell and charged a disposal fee for what they couldn't, but it took so much weight off my mum's shoulders as she too was having to do it alone.

She'd gone through it all first to pick out anything extremely sentimental, higher value that might need to go to a specialist auction (bloody stamp collections!) or anything she wanted to keep, but then left the rest to them to go through.

Doloresparton · 28/01/2025 12:25

My bil apparently couldn’t help my dh sort his parents house because he found it too upsetting.
However he was perfectly able to ring dh and tell him he’d been to the house and taken xxx because they held significant memories for him.
I often wonder what he’d have done if he’d been an only dc.

thepariscrimefiles · 28/01/2025 12:24

Angularline · 28/01/2025 11:10

I'm sorting through all this stuff and finding receipts for expensive trivial stuff in the early 90s when I was at uni, working two term time jobs and full-time in the holidays and I'm a 50 year old woman upset at having to go to the tip again

I am your age and at Uni at the same time and I did not need to work two term time jobs. Grants were being phased out, so you got at least some money and student loans were cheap. No tuition fees. I never had a job in the term time but I did get jobs in the summer holidays. I lived in a small room in a not very nice flat to live cheaply. I live largely within my means and Ieft uni with about 3k of debt. I got nothing at all from my parents, who could not have afforded to give me anything anyway.

Tuition was free but grants for living costs were means tested based on parental income. I'm assuming that OP's parents were wealthy enough to need to pay towards OP's living costs but didn't actually do this which is why OP needed two jobs.

catmothertes1 · 28/01/2025 12:24

HeddaGarbled · 28/01/2025 11:11

So they were poor when they were young but in later life when they had a bit more money, they treated themselves to nice Christmas decorations and porcelain?

Is that so bad?

I must say that I don't understand what the OP is trying to say. Is it resentment at having to clear the house or resentment that her parents bought themselves nice things?

GrumblingRose · 28/01/2025 12:23

@Poppins21

With the house clearing company do you literally sign over the possessions to them ? If there is anything of value such as gold Jewlry or a collection worth £££ do they get to keep it ? Also what happens to the stuff once they have cleared it ?

BezMills · 28/01/2025 12:20

Nothing is unreasonable at a time like this. You feel how you feel. It's not easy.

YellowGuido · 28/01/2025 12:18

Ahh, I really feel for you, OP - and let me guess, ‘golden brother’ doesn’t get stuck doing the grunt work?
Thats my experience - youngest of 3, always been put upon to look after my parents, older two allowed the freedoms to do what they wanted in their lives, always got what they wanted - emotionally and financially. When it got to me, it felt like my parents had run out of steam - they weren’t interested at all.
But now there is practical and financial input needed towards our parents - I’m the only one expected to give. My dad died six years ago - he was a hoarder and I had to organise three skips and many, many top runs to empty out all his stuff from my parents’ house. My mum moved a year or two later and the sheer amount of stuff that was still in the house was astounding. They both had very little growing up, but apparently had a large disposable income to collect such a vast amount of crap!
sorry this is long - didn’t realise how badly I needed to vent! It just feels very selfish and wasteful. And my mum still keeps buying all kinds of cheap novelty rubbish to this day - I dread the task of clearing away her things when the time comes. It’s exhausting.