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To think this was really spiteful

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Stopbeingsomean · 27/01/2025 22:30

I work as a TA in a primary school and something happened today that made me really sad.

I was working with a group of ten children, split between three adults. We were working on subtraction with this particular group who really struggle with maths.

I heard the other TA tell a child she had done very well. The little girl was really proud of herself and had a huge smile on her face and asked “Am I going to get a sticker Miss?” The TA looked very sternly at her and said “Katie, stickers are given out at my discretion. I decide when to give them. I was actually going to give you one, but as you have asked, unfortunately I am not going to give you one now” Honestly she looked devastated. She’s 7 years old.

AIBU to think this was really spiteful?

YABU - She should not have asked.

YANBU - She deserved a sticker

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Arrietty58 · 27/01/2025 23:52

It is mean to such a small child! A pathetic power trip, horrible. Please give her a sticker and a little wink. It’s great you have her back.

Stopbeingsomean · 27/01/2025 23:51

saraclara · 27/01/2025 23:47

Presumably you work under the direction of a class teacher? Have you brought this up with that person? It's that the person who doesn't care?

People suggesting going straight to the HT with that conversation are being unrealistic. The issue only goes that far when the process has been followed through the hierarchy without success.

The class teachers don’t really care about the kids who struggle or especially the SEN. One of my boys works so hard. He’s low ability but he’s been doing brilliantly. I went to tell his teacher and he was just not interested. I actually told him I could see he wasn’t listening or even interested and I left the room.

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Mindedmy · 27/01/2025 23:49

Stopbeingsomean · 27/01/2025 22:30

I work as a TA in a primary school and something happened today that made me really sad.

I was working with a group of ten children, split between three adults. We were working on subtraction with this particular group who really struggle with maths.

I heard the other TA tell a child she had done very well. The little girl was really proud of herself and had a huge smile on her face and asked “Am I going to get a sticker Miss?” The TA looked very sternly at her and said “Katie, stickers are given out at my discretion. I decide when to give them. I was actually going to give you one, but as you have asked, unfortunately I am not going to give you one now” Honestly she looked devastated. She’s 7 years old.

AIBU to think this was really spiteful?

YABU - She should not have asked.

YANBU - She deserved a sticker

Please speak up
I had to take my dyslexic DC out of mainstream primary because he lost all self esteem, basically wrote himself off. Even now he recalls that he never felt that ( in the 6 years he attended) he received praise or recognition (stickers, a trip to show head teacher a special price of work) despite working very hard and making massive achievements or producing work that he was proud of. He can also roughly recall how many times his friends did receive praise and he did not (for producing work that required much less effort on their part). For a child with dyslexia or dyscalcula, such behaviour from the TA has lifelong impact. That missing praise and encouragement slowing ebbed away his joy of attending school.
Correct response could have been “well we shouldn’t really ask for rewards but yes, I agree with you, you do deserve a sticker for your excellent hardwork today” Poor confused little kid. Power tripping TA with her bloody pack of stickers.

Ravensperch · 27/01/2025 23:49

In Victorian times, children were often told 'Those who ask shan't have' but I am shocked to hear of it in the 21st century, especially in this sort of context

Im in my 60s and went to a primary school that seemed to be in a Victorian time warp. Along with the above, we had to sit with our hands on our heads for the rest of the lesson if we yawned, or talked. We were put in the corner and humiliated for getting answers wrong. I struggled terribly with maths and just any encouragement or acknowledgement of trying hard would have meant so much. I’ve never forgotten the cruel words and nastiness I received daily by those teachers, and I have no confidence at all in maths to this day.

Give the little girl some stickers tomorrow , tell her you are really proud of her and she should be proud of herself too for trying so hard yesterday. As others say, you remember these little things . Asking for a sticker was not a crime. The kid is 7 ffs. The TA sounds vile.

Bowserthedog · 27/01/2025 23:48

Yes what does the class teacher think? Does she not notice this type of behaviour, it’s like bullying

saraclara · 27/01/2025 23:47

Presumably you work under the direction of a class teacher? Have you brought this up with that person? It's that the person who doesn't care?

People suggesting going straight to the HT with that conversation are being unrealistic. The issue only goes that far when the process has been followed through the hierarchy without success.

Stopbeingsomean · 27/01/2025 23:46

Merrygoround8 · 27/01/2025 23:38

Incredibly mean - can you raise it with the head?
this makes me so sad to hear…. I can imagine how down my daughter would feel if this was her, she’d be so worried she’d done something wrong

I have mentioned the TA twice before, no one listens or cares and no action is ever taken.

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Bowserthedog · 27/01/2025 23:46

Nasty piece of work, she shouldn’t be there…if all the parents knew…..

Stopbeingsomean · 27/01/2025 23:45

Agapornis · 27/01/2025 23:36

She's doing a shit job at preparing kids for life. Can you imagine this happening in the workplace - "you did a great job and deserve a pay rise, but you asked for one, so you won't get one".

Does she only do this to girls? No wonder that women don't feel able to ask for pay rises and get paid less.

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The child started off by telling her what she’d done on the weekend, and her response was to ignore her and tell her to open her book. I usually say “Oh wow that sounded fun. Let’s do our work and you can tell me at the end” I always give them two mins to tell me afterwards.

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MumWifeOther · 27/01/2025 23:39

Agapornis · 27/01/2025 23:36

She's doing a shit job at preparing kids for life. Can you imagine this happening in the workplace - "you did a great job and deserve a pay rise, but you asked for one, so you won't get one".

Does she only do this to girls? No wonder that women don't feel able to ask for pay rises and get paid less.

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Exactly. Teach kids to advocate for themselves and ask for what they think they deserve. There is no shame in that!

DevilledEgg · 27/01/2025 23:39

If the school really are such dicks about calling her out, they won't call you out either. So start calling her out Infront of the kids so they know it's wrong. They will take great joy telling mam and dad how miss lovely TA is sticking up for them against miss meanie TA

MumWifeOther · 27/01/2025 23:38

NPET · 27/01/2025 23:27

She could have said "yes of course you're getting one - but try to remember not to ask in future".

It’s fine to ask for what you want thought as you’re polite? We should actually encourage kids to not shy away from asking for what they want, and speaking their minds.

Merrygoround8 · 27/01/2025 23:38

Incredibly mean - can you raise it with the head?
this makes me so sad to hear…. I can imagine how down my daughter would feel if this was her, she’d be so worried she’d done something wrong

Agapornis · 27/01/2025 23:36

She's doing a shit job at preparing kids for life. Can you imagine this happening in the workplace - "you did a great job and deserve a pay rise, but you asked for one, so you won't get one".

Does she only do this to girls? No wonder that women don't feel able to ask for pay rises and get paid less.

DisgruntledPelican23 · 27/01/2025 23:36

Please mention this to the head. Not fair at all.

Stopbeingsomean · 27/01/2025 23:35

MoodyMargaret11 · 27/01/2025 23:30

Is she from a different country/culture OP?
The examples you are giving here make me think that. Still not an excuse anyway but I grew up in a country where nursery workers and teachers commonly spoke this way, like a grumpy boss - while still seeing themselves as caring.

She’s from the UK.

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CarterBeatsTheDevil · 27/01/2025 23:34

It's really mean. And I would be very annoyed if my little girl was being taught that things she deserves will be withheld from her if she asks for them.

tachetastic · 27/01/2025 23:32

With the exception of @DelphiniumBlue , who the heck are the 6% of responders who thought you were being unreasonable?

Could they please explain themselves, because I cannot see any reason other than meanness to tell a child that they did deserve a sticker but they are not going to get one just because they asked - and the child hadn't even asked for a sticker, only whether, based on their performance, if they were going to get one. For that, they were punished.

Just mean.

Stopbeingsomean · 27/01/2025 23:32

Crackanut · 27/01/2025 23:20

That's absolutely ridiculous over a sticker. "Raising bloody hell"? No wonder teachers are leaving in their droves.

Do you not think this was spiteful though @Crackanut?

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MoodyMargaret11 · 27/01/2025 23:30

Stopbeingsomean · 27/01/2025 23:02

I’ve told my manager twice about the way she speaks to the kids but unfortunately they don’t give a shit as long as there’s a body teaching.

Last week I heard her saying “Well! From what you’ve just done I can tell you do not know your tables. You should be on at least your 5’s by now. I will be speaking to your teacher about you” She also said “Tell me why you went to fetch glue? Did I ask for glue? No! I did not! Now get on with your work”

Is she from a different country/culture OP?
The examples you are giving here make me think that. Still not an excuse anyway but I grew up in a country where nursery workers and teachers commonly spoke this way, like a grumpy boss - while still seeing themselves as caring.

kiana2015 · 27/01/2025 23:29

Not nice

Bluescissorsbluepen · 27/01/2025 23:28

Can’t help but think about woman not advocating for themselves in salary negotiations for fear of being too greedy. No doubt she’d have done it to a boy too but that shit is ingrained deep and starts early. Yes just a sticker but she was asking about the correct reward for her work. CEO’s do it all the time.

NPET · 27/01/2025 23:27

She could have said "yes of course you're getting one - but try to remember not to ask in future".

ChicViper · 27/01/2025 23:25

If they don't take your complaints seriously then they won't take hers seriously either so give the girl her sticker tomorrow. Ridiculous to deny a reward that the TA admitted she was entitled too. Why shouldn't she want a reward for her efforts? Adults do, we want praise, promotions, pay rises and acknowledgement why can't children openly want a reward too.

TA probs rewards herself with a prosecco for a hard week at work but can't extend the same courtesy to the children she's "helping".

Anyway she's spiteful and power trippy and I hope this interaction hasn't knocked the child's confidence too much

MumWifeOther · 27/01/2025 23:25

Stopbeingsomean · 27/01/2025 23:02

I’ve told my manager twice about the way she speaks to the kids but unfortunately they don’t give a shit as long as there’s a body teaching.

Last week I heard her saying “Well! From what you’ve just done I can tell you do not know your tables. You should be on at least your 5’s by now. I will be speaking to your teacher about you” She also said “Tell me why you went to fetch glue? Did I ask for glue? No! I did not! Now get on with your work”

Listen, if I ever heard anyone talk to my children like this…. Tell the parents.

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