GMB reporting on liberation of Auschwitz (minus the Jews!)

Why are you splittimg hairs?

@Boomer55
6 million Jewish people were not killed in the Concentration camps.
I know it’s splitting hairs
but
The 6million killed is in Camps and everywhere else.
An estimate of 2.5 million Jewish people were killed in camps.

I meant the gas chambers. I think you're being a bit pedantic, as it doesn't change the purpose and impact of the Nazi genocide. Which is the point.

So you want these protests to be banned? What format of protest is acceptable to you for those concerned at the numbers of deaths and displacements in Gaza?

Edit: Ignore me. Solely because I want this thread to get back to topic.

I see that the Palestinian apologists have tried to take over a legitimate outrage about the holocaust. Why am I not surprised.

The camps were not built for that purpose. They were around before as Labour enforcement camps and were as such including in the first years of the war.

Early 1940s people started being assessed as fit to work in the camps and those unfit were killed. Later on mobile then permanent gas chambers were installed as the Nazis wanted a quicker system of initially killing those they deemed not fit to work. ie women, children, disabled and elderly. By the point that the gas chambers were being designed it was to exterminate as many Jews as possible straight off the trains.

The camps were not initially built to only kill Jews

Are you equally horrified by the deaths of hundreds of children at a pop concert, and the kidnapping of over a thousand Israeli citizens? In ONE DAY?

My opinion on the war in gaza is not relevant to a discussion about the Holocaust.

The death of civilians is always horrible. But lets not forget that 6 MILLION JEWS died during the holocaust - a very different figure.

Have you no shame. The camps were systematic, industrial death factories built to exterminate the Jewish people. There is absolutely no equivalence with a war started by Hamas. This is Holocaust inversion and is antisemitic.

Utterly disgusting post.

Some estimates here on The Holocaust website.
posted some others earlier more specific to Auschwitz with more specific reference to the wider Auschwitz population.

tap article to read to the end

Suggest you look at Nazi extermination camps before making a remark like this. Even better, perhaps go visit Auschwitz. Even the King knows what an extermination camp looks like rather than a war zone wasteland which sadly is what Gaza is.

Telling a particular ethnic group to go back to where they came from is racist under any circumstances, end of. Walking through the middle of a city where members of that group will likely see it is deliberately intimidating.

Deciding to come on a thread about the Holocaust on HMD to defend it is truly disgusting and frankly I don't know why @mnhq are fine with it.

No it isn't. The current state of play in the Middle East bears no similarity to the six years during which the Holocaust took place exterminating six million Jews and millions of other so-called undesirables (in Hitler's eyes)
There are no extermination camps now while there were 15000 in Europe in the 1930s and 1940s, many of them small localised ones, not just the larger extermination camps like Auschwitz.

Well said!

Wow! No the wording was nonsensical. Now that you have explained I preferred it when I didn’t understand.

Splitting hairs! Wow.

I take your point, but was responding to a poster who was complaining that some people were “fetishising Gaza”. It’s hard to ignore that kind of comment when so many people world wide are so angry and distressed by what Israel is doing there.

The other posters shouldn’t be posting these provocative comments on this thread.

Yes, the other groups targeted for extermination were much smaller, so naturally formed a much smaller part of the death toll.

The Nazis destroyed all but 3.5M (30-40%) of European Jewry. And they destroyed all but 25% of European Romani, but the numbers were much lower to begin with.

It's terrifying to think how close to success they came in both cases (of course, they could not have permanently wiped out homosexuals and disabled people).

A thread discussing historical genocide and pointing out the similarities to what is happening in the world today is entirely relevant.

@Newrumpus I thought it was pretty straightforward?

The only reason the current Israeli government hasn’t wiped out all Palestinians yet is because they simply can’t get away with it and everything needs to be done in a roundabout way. Unless you think what’s been done to Gazans - especially countless children - as retaliation for the Hamas attack is acceptable and a proportional response.

Regardless this isn’t the thread the discussion it, considering it was just a thread about OP splitting hairs about poor wording.

Are you then saying that because of another Countries actions. These now homeless Jewish people had the right to go to Palestine and push the people settled there out their homes by force? Had the right to move the Palestinian farmers off the fertile land on to much less productive. Had the right to control water, power & trade by the Palestinians.

Let me give you a scenario. I live in Clacton and commute to London for work each day. For whatever reason I am thrown out of Clacton. I think to myself, 'y'know a house in central London would do me just right' and decide upon Kensington. You own a nice house in Kensington and I knock your door with gun in hand and tell you and your family to get out.

You complain to the local police and they say, no it is realitychecks friends who are in charge now, so off you go and move to Hackney. Then my mates turn off all the commuter buses and trains to Hackney also and tell you, no you cannot work in Central London no more.

Would you think that was a fair thing to happen?