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GMB reporting on liberation of Auschwitz (minus the Jews!)

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TheRewritingOfHistoryBegins · 27/01/2025 21:40

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AIBU to be absolutely outraged about the report on the liberation of Auschwitz of GMB without one mention of the fact they were Jewish people who were killed?

https://x.com/antisemitism/status/1883921202416345358

What the hell is going on in this country where we can’t even speak of the victims of the greatest atrocity ever taken place in this world?

Jews they were Jews.

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Icantthinkof1 · 28/01/2025 01:02

TheRewritingOfHistoryBegins · 27/01/2025 21:40

I couldn’t see another thread on this but if there is, let me know.

AIBU to be absolutely outraged about the report on the liberation of Auschwitz of GMB without one mention of the fact they were Jewish people who were killed?

https://x.com/antisemitism/status/1883921202416345358

What the hell is going on in this country where we can’t even speak of the victims of the greatest atrocity ever taken place in this world?

Jews they were Jews.

But it wasn't just Jews though was it? It was gays, gypsies, disabled, people of colour etc
Never forget means never forgetting all who suffered.

Livelovebehappy · 28/01/2025 01:00

It’s sad that many people have tried to derail on social media sites that it’s Holocaust Memorial Day. I’ve seen a couple of attempts on my Facebook groups today where people have referenced our thoughts being with the people murdered at Auschwitz only for some pro Palestinian groups coming on there ranting about the Palestine situation being similar. It sickens me that it is being uttered in the same breath as the Holocaust. What happened at the hands of Hitler was beyond anything else in history, and certainly not comparable in any way to what has happened to the Palestinians. Why can’t they just let people remember today all those who were murdered by Hitler, instead of making it all about Palestine.

zzplex · 28/01/2025 00:59

'but they didn't all die there, did they?', carries a risk of implying it 'wasn't as bad as all that'.

That certainly wasn't my intention. But lazily lumping them all in the category of "died in concentration camps" is:

(i) untrue,

(ii) offensive to the memory of those who died in other ways and who deserve to have the facts of their deaths accurately known,

(iii) doesn't broaden people's knowledge of the manner of deaths and spread of locations across Europe, and

(iv) opens the door to scepticism about the "real" facts when people realise the statement isn't true, possibly leading to wondering if Holocaust deniers or revisionists have got a point.

One thing I've learned over the years is that the Holocaust isn't one story of how 6 million people died, it's 6 million stories of how an individual died. They were individual people with individual lives and individual deaths. It's a dishonour to not accurately acknowledge that. And that goes for all the other victims too, whether Romani, gay, political prisoners, handicapped, mentally ill, Jehovah's Witnesses etc.

Smokesandeats · 28/01/2025 00:55

It’s very poor that a flagship programme like GMB got this so wrong today. All the other main channels managed to have far more appropriate coverage. I have also complained to ofcom.

Aftergloww · 28/01/2025 00:50

It’s just poor wording, but I’m not entirely sure what you’re so offended about. Everyone knows who (mainly) got killed.

If anything, I’d say the Roma are the most overlooked group in that respect.

DandyWasp · 28/01/2025 00:41

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😆 Okaaaaay

I’m sure you’ll be pleased to know I reported them to Ofcom, as have many others.

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Whydoeseveryonewanttoargue · 28/01/2025 00:34

StrikeForever · 28/01/2025 00:12

Because the victims were not all Jews. What happened to them at the hands of the Nazi was awful, but the same was done to the Disabled, people who opposed the Nazi regimen, Roma People, Poles, Serbs, Jehovahs Witnesses, Freemasons, Homosexuals and several other groups. In most reports on the Holocaust, only Jews are mentioned.

All reports today on other news channel and the speeches themselves mentioned Jews, Roma, disabled and other religions. Also the religious leaders from other religions showing solidarity by reciting the same passage (sorry forgot which one) and the acknowledgement that it affected all different people.

PotaytoPotahhto · 28/01/2025 00:32

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Why bring Muslims into it? Why try and turn these two religions against each other? Why is that your first thought?

DandyWasp · 28/01/2025 00:31

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AlisonDonut · 27/01/2025 22:18

Who liberated Auschwitz? The people not invited to the ceremony today that's who.

It is so utterly disgraceful that history is being completely rewritten and the people involved erased from the story.

Yeah I’m okay with Putin not being invited.

Let’s not reward the leader of the country who liberated the camp when he has gone to war and invaded a sovereign country and basically is a dictator (actions and political duration in power).

How would that work? Good job then but you seriously suck now?

History isn’t being rewritten. We know it was Russia, we just don’t want Putin there.

TheRewritingOfHistoryBegins · 28/01/2025 00:25

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You know very well what I meant. A national broadcaster not saying the word Jew when talking about ‘people’ who died Auschwitz, hardly being open and honest is it? So tell me why they omitted it?

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noblegiraffe · 28/01/2025 00:20

ARealitycheck · 28/01/2025 00:18

It means the ommision is unlikely to have any effect on peoples knowledge.

So what? That doesn't make it ok to omit it.

ARealitycheck · 28/01/2025 00:18

noblegiraffe · 28/01/2025 00:16

So what? That doesn't make it ok to omit it from a news report does it?

It means the ommision is unlikely to have any effect on peoples knowledge.

DandyWasp · 28/01/2025 00:17

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noblegiraffe · 28/01/2025 00:16

ARealitycheck · 28/01/2025 00:15

And as I say, the facts of what happened are well told in schools. I believe schools still take children to there to reflect.

So what? That doesn't make it ok to omit it from a news report does it?

ARealitycheck · 28/01/2025 00:15

noblegiraffe · 28/01/2025 00:12

When there are those who would like to deny that the Holocaust happened at all, or was not grossly exaggerated, I think that it is incredibly foolish to think that it goes without saying that the Nazis sought the industrial extermination of Jews as the Final Solution to the Jewish Question.

It needs to be said. Very much needs to be said.

And as I say, the facts of what happened are well told in schools. I believe schools still take children to there to reflect.

ARealitycheck · 28/01/2025 00:14

TheRewritingOfHistoryBegins · 28/01/2025 00:11

Ahhh so because everyone is aware of the MURDER of Jews at Auschwitz, we don’t have to mention them anymore. I see.

Yeah I’m an attention seeker, sorry couldn’t help myself.

Also you would be well advised to research what the day does actually commemorate. It is not just a jewish remembrance, and that comes from the holocaust society.

StrikeForever · 28/01/2025 00:12

TheRewritingOfHistoryBegins · 27/01/2025 22:13

Anyone voting YABU want to tell me why?

Because the victims were not all Jews. What happened to them at the hands of the Nazi was awful, but the same was done to the Disabled, people who opposed the Nazi regimen, Roma People, Poles, Serbs, Jehovahs Witnesses, Freemasons, Homosexuals and several other groups. In most reports on the Holocaust, only Jews are mentioned.

noblegiraffe · 28/01/2025 00:12

ARealitycheck · 28/01/2025 00:07

How many people do you think are unaware of the jews in auschwitz? Our children still learn of it during their education. Sorry but this comes across as a bit faux outrage attention seeking. Only my opinion you understand.

When there are those who would like to deny that the Holocaust happened at all, or was not grossly exaggerated, I think that it is incredibly foolish to think that it goes without saying that the Nazis sought the industrial extermination of Jews as the Final Solution to the Jewish Question.

It needs to be said. Very much needs to be said.

TheRewritingOfHistoryBegins · 28/01/2025 00:11

ARealitycheck · 28/01/2025 00:07

How many people do you think are unaware of the jews in auschwitz? Our children still learn of it during their education. Sorry but this comes across as a bit faux outrage attention seeking. Only my opinion you understand.

Ahhh so because everyone is aware of the MURDER of Jews at Auschwitz, we don’t have to mention them anymore. I see.

Yeah I’m an attention seeker, sorry couldn’t help myself.

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Motherwifenursehuman · 28/01/2025 00:11

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You need to check your figures.

ARealitycheck · 28/01/2025 00:07

TheRewritingOfHistoryBegins · 28/01/2025 00:03

God forbid we offend anyone. But as the MAJORITY were Jewish maybe a little mention might have been nice, no?

How many people do you think are unaware of the jews in auschwitz? Our children still learn of it during their education. Sorry but this comes across as a bit faux outrage attention seeking. Only my opinion you understand.

LetItBe2025 · 28/01/2025 00:05

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