GMB reporting on liberation of Auschwitz (minus the Jews!)

German concentration camps killed 11 million people, of whom 6 million were Jews. Other people were involved, 😔

Because the victims were not all Jews. What happened to them at the hands of the Nazi was awful, but the same was done to the Disabled, people who opposed the Nazi regimen, Roma People, Poles, Serbs, Jehovahs Witnesses, Freemasons, Homosexuals and several other groups. In most reports on the Holocaust, only Jews are mentioned.

But "6 million Jewish people were killed in concentration camps in the second world war" isn't factually correct, is it?

6 million is the total number of Jewish people who died as a result of Nazi actions or who were directly killed by them. Or am I misreading the statistics?

Saying they all died in concentration camps is a gross oversimplification. It doesn't acknowledge that deaths also occurred in ghettos, mobile gas units, shootings in mass graves etc.

Who liberated Auschwitz? The people not invited to the ceremony today that's who.

It is so utterly disgraceful that history is being completely rewritten and the people involved erased from the story.

That looks to me like a genuine error where either the person doing the autocue script accidentally deleted the word “Jewish” or the presenter accidentally skipped it. A serious error but the script only “makes sense” if you add in the word Jewish at the beginning. Otherwise she’s just saying six million people were murdered plus another million people for different reasons. Hopefully they will clarify.

That looks to me like a genuine error where either the person doing the autocue script accidentally deleted the word “Jewish” or the presenter accidentally skipped it. A serious error but the script only “makes sense” if you add in the word Jewish at the beginning. Otherwise she’s just saying six million people were murdered plus another million people for different reasons. Hopefully they will clarify.

Don’t see the fuss myself -
seems like an error in the script because ‘people’ is repeated twice.

I wasn’t ’defending the nazi salute’ as well you know. All I know about Elon Musk is he is an excitable intelligent crazy neurodivergent man and no I don’t believe it was a Nazi salute (I could be wrong but don’t think I am)
But keep going on about me, you may even be able to derail the thread enough so we don’t have to talk about Jews anymore…you’d like that wouldn’t you?

Well the OP is defending the use of a nazi salute, so there we go.

So it is okay to go around making nazi salutes as long as you say you’re excited while doing it? Okay, got it.

I wasn’t ’defending the nazi salute’ as well you know. All I know about Elon Musk is he is an excitable intelligent crazy neurodivergent man and no I don’t believe it was a Nazi salute (I could be wrong but don’t think I am)
But keep going on about me, you may even be able to derail the thread enough so we don’t have to talk about Jews anymore…you’d like that wouldn’t you?

I wasn’t ’defending the nazi salute’ as well you know. All I know about Elon Musk is he is an excitable intelligent crazy neurodivergent man and no I don’t believe it was a Nazi salute (I could be wrong but don’t think I am)
But keep going on about me, you may even be able to derail the thread enough so we don’t have to talk about Jews anymore…you’d like that wouldn’t you?

It is not a matter of record at all and no one should be trying to take the upper hand on the emotions felt by certain Liberators as less worthy than their own!

There are, for example, no records of British soldiers killed specifically trying to liberate concentration camps. In fact at Belsen there was a truce around the camp to protect them in advance of Typhus.

The Red Army however in liberating Auschwitz, Birkenau and Monowitz lost hundreds of their men in the fighting to get near the camps.

To say that some felt more horror than the British is diminishing the horror felt by all the Liberators and a direct attempt at rewriting history.

It is a matter of record that the Russians who liberated Auschwitz were not as moved by what they found as one might have thought. Inmates were sent back to the Soviet Union under forced labour. Women were sexually assaulted by their 'liberators'. On the other hand, British soldiers like my uncle, were profoundly moved and scarred by their experience when they liberated Bergen Belsen on 15 April 1945.

What the hell am I reading? A national broadcaster reports on Holocaust Memorial Day without mentioning the word "Jew" until two minutes in, and people are defending it? An MP tweets on Holocaust Memorial Day and fails to mention the word "Jew", and people are defending it? What the hell is going on here?

If it's any comfort OP, the BBC's coverage was absolutely excellent. And I urge everyone on here to watch The Last Musician of Auschwitz, which was shown on BBC2 last night. It is devastating.

At the end of it, once commentator pointed out something which has occurred to me at times - that Jews don't just mourn the inhumanity and the murder. They mourn the almost successful erasure of 1000 years of history and European culture - music, learning, dancing, language, cuisine, family...the list goes on. 3 million Jews lived in Poland for example in 1939. Now there are 10,000. The population of a small town.

And I agree about the Royal Family yesterday. They did us proud, unlike ITV.

He’s not a nazi for goodness sake. He made a stupid bloody hand gesture when he was a bit excited.

I'm looking at the proportion of jews v non jews in Palestine or Israel depending on your persuasion. As you well know, Gaza has reduced in size dramatically over the past century. As has the percentage of non Jews (Arabs) to an incoming Jewish population increased in Palestine/Israel.

1946 and the end of WW2. Jews make up less than a third of the population. 1948 and the creation of the Israeli state by Western powers and that population increases to over 80% Jewish and it then increased again reaching nearly 90% at one point.

That really can't be talked away as natural changes in a population.

6 million Jews were killed by the Nazis. 6 to 8 million others were killed by them.

Czechs too actually, though they aren’t often mentioned either. Hitler hated all Slavic people. I’m mentioning this because I am half Czech; my grandfather was shot by the Gestapo just before the end of the war and a great uncle died in Maunthausen concentration camp.

However, it’s true that the vast majority of victims were Jews and it’s appalling that GMB didn’t mention this. If it was a mistake it was a very bad one and it could have easily been corrected. There should definitely be an apology to the Jewish community.