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To not want to give to charities at the checkout or on the street.

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WeCanOnlyDoOurBest · 27/01/2025 18:51

At a shop today I was asked by the store assistant at the point of paying with my card if I wanted to donate to charity. This has happened numerous times in other shops/stores as it flags up on the card machine, and I have the option to tap yes or no. However on this occasion it was pointed out to me, she was looking right at me waiting for an answer and watching if I tapped yes or no. It didn’t say which charity it was on the card machine and I declined. She gave a slight shake of her head and I left feeling really uncomfortable.
I also hate it when I get stopped in the street, I find some of them use a very pushy ‘salesman’ technique and try to make me feel like the worst person when I refuse to handover my bank details for a regular monthly donation. The last one asked me, ‘don’t you even care?’
I do give to certain charities, and I’m happy to donate food into the donation box in Sainsbury’s, Tesco etc, I’ve also raised money for cancer research by way of being sponsored on a walk.
What concerns me about giving to charities is how much of our funding and donations go into helping that particular cause? And how much is the big chief being paid out of our donations? For example Simon Cooke, the chief executive of Marie Stopes International earns an annual salary of £430,000.
I see begging adverts on TV… help the donkeys, help the cats, the polar bears, the tigers etc etc. We’re asked to donate to war torn countries, and I see the poor little babies and children half starved in terrible conditions and the mother holding the child is looking far from underfed!
AIBU to only want to give to certain charities? I feel in my heart I would rather help the people and good causes in my own country, because frankly times are hard for a lot of families given the rising cost of living, even for those who are working really hard.
I guess it comes down to me thinking ‘Charity begins at home’, and asking myself the question ‘does the funding go into the right pot that helps the cause?’

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DalzielOrNoDalzielAndDontPascoe · 28/01/2025 00:13

Needmorelego · 27/01/2025 20:17

@DalzielOrNoDalzielAndDontPascoe the person on the till doesn't have time to stand and explain what the charity is. They can tell you charity name or a basic bit of information if it's a smaller fundraiser ("we are helping to fund the new playground in the local park") but they really can't go into a long explanation.
It seriously is just the modern equivalent of a box at the till that people used to put their pennies in. It's not a new concept.
@sequin2000 they do "do more than the average shopper" - that was my point.

I can't ever recall seeing an old-fashioned collecting tin that just said 'charity' on it.

Nobody is asking the assistant to explain all about the charity to every customer - just a small printed sign giving the charity name and a very brief description of what they do is fine.

Card payments may have overtaken cash use, but printed signs are still very much a thing!

iffffonly · 28/01/2025 00:09

I always donate to Air Ambulance,we never know when we or our family will benefit!

Plopandflop · 28/01/2025 00:04

A great reply to a chugger who said “oh you don’t care about such and such then” is to say back
“oh right so I assume by that comment you are doing this for free on behalf of the charity and not being paid” or “so how much of your salary from this are you giving to this charity”

They go bright red and shut up.

NattyTurtle59 · 27/01/2025 23:59

I agree it is annoying, but just say no, thank you.

YorhshireTeaIsBest · 27/01/2025 23:10

Haroldwilson · 27/01/2025 19:42

'I think the complaints about the decline in the use of cash are a red herring. There's nothing whatsoever stopping supermarkets or other premises having a sign on the wall, next to a card terminal where you can contactlessly donate either a set amount or the amount of your choice, should you want to, or otherwise walk right on by if you don't want to.'

@DalzielOrNoDalzielAndDontPascoe

Well, for a start there's the wiring and cleaning and WiFi and maintenance etc needed for a terminal.

The risk assessments for someone bashing into it.

And it would require a supermarket to commit to a long term partnership with one given charity to make the cost of installing it worthwhile.

What you're saying is you want charities to spend money installing something so you can ignore them without feeling guilty about it.

Don't feel guilty. Just say no if you don't want to. Why is the request somehow a terrible intrusion?

Then they could moan about the amount of money these terrible charities, that are trying to meet a social need that the state doesn't, are spending on these imaginary machines. That would be fun.
Bastards. Trying to make it a better world. How very dare they?!

YorhshireTeaIsBest · 27/01/2025 23:05

Haroldwilson · 27/01/2025 19:16

Ok chuggers in the street I don't like either.

The rest I'm afraid you're being massively, massively unreasonable.

People used to put spare change in pots at the till. Now we all pay by card. They're trying to make up the difference. You can just say no.

A tiny handful of CEOs earn the kind of money you're talking about, usually for running complex international multi-million pound organisations with lots of staff and different activities like charity shops, relief, long term projects etc. Everyone in the sector, CEOs included, are getting paid less than they would in the private sector.

As for mothers in war-torn countries looking healthier than their babies, that's mind blowingly crass. Are you actually saing those mothers are tucking into food and leaving their kids without? FFS.

For a start, a two year old who has lived under war conditions will suffer more from lack of nutrition than an adult. An adult literally starving themselves wouldn't be able to care for children. And children are susceptible to things like diarrhoea from poor nutrition and living in unhygienic conditions. People don't tend to starve to death, they become malnourished because they can only access basic foods and leave out veg, meat etc. then an illness like a tummy bug has much worse consequences for them.

I've found that people who say 'charity begins at home' also don't give to local causes either. All those ads will have gone through a calculation for return on investment, eg they bring in much more in fundraising than they cost to make and broadcast.

Let's face it, you want to live in a consumerist bubble where other people's hardship is kept out of sight because you don't want to give any money to help.

All of this! 💯
Thanks for typing. I couldn't be arsed 👍

YorhshireTeaIsBest · 27/01/2025 23:03

Applesandpears23 · 27/01/2025 19:15

You might like to look into the effective altruism movement. It is basically lots of people who try to measure the impact of charities and asses which ones make the most difference for each £ donated. Reading about this has made me feel more secure in the choices of charity I have made and if anyone questions me I am happy to explain who I support and why.

Wow they could charge the charities for that service. It's hard work measuring impact and outcomes for funders. Even more so when you're nothing to do with the charity!

gavinandstaceychristmasspecial · 27/01/2025 22:49

If you believe that a charity is fundraising in an unethical way you can make a complaint to the regulator.

www.fundraisingregulator.org.uk/complaints

gavinandstaceychristmasspecial · 27/01/2025 22:45

hazelnutvanillalatte · 27/01/2025 19:56

No. Corporations do this so they can use customers' donations as a tax write off.

Have you got a source for that? Which company is doing that. It would be illegal so probably best to report to HMRC - it will be easy to look into.

Personally I like donating at the terminal - it's so easy and I don't have to carry cash. If I have a monthly DD or larger one off donation I'm more picky about the charity but if it's 50p or old toys to the charity shop they can have it.

I don't stop to talk to chuggers or at the table beyond 'hi, sorry, in a rush, have a good day'.

Ilovemyshed · 27/01/2025 21:25

At the till, click no
In the street "no, I don't give to charities that stop me in the street, I give direct to ones I choose"
At the door "no, I never donate to doorsteppers, goodbye"
In answer to "do you care". "Yes, but I cannot give to everyone and you are not my chosen charity this year".

MyrtlethePurpleTurtle · 27/01/2025 21:21

Needmorelego · 27/01/2025 20:33

@WeCanOnlyDoOurBest really - being asked to press a button on a machine is "harassment"?
I agree that chuggers on the street/in shop doorways are a pain but I either say "no", put my hand up in a "no" manner or don't even make eye contact.

Well, quite.

BBQPete · 27/01/2025 21:18

AIBU to only want to give to certain charities?

No, of course not, but YABU to get worked up about this. Saying it is harassment is OTT.

With the card reader thing, just press 'no' and move on with your day. With the chuggers, either just say 'No' or 'I already give' is a good one, and, again, just move on with your day.

MyrtlethePurpleTurtle · 27/01/2025 21:17

hazelnutvanillalatte · 27/01/2025 19:56

No. Corporations do this so they can use customers' donations as a tax write off.

Nonsense.

Customers' donations are not 'a tax write off' (whatever you think you mean by that).

However, charitable donations, whether by a corporate or an individual, are tax deductible.

Haroldwilson · 27/01/2025 21:17

randomusernam · 27/01/2025 20:56

I never donate through companies. They can get the tax back on any donations they make.

They get tax deduction on donations THEY make. Not that YOU make. They're just letting the charity use their premises etc for that.

They get indirect benefit of brand boosting by being associated with a positive cause.

MyrtlethePurpleTurtle · 27/01/2025 21:10

Haroldwilson · 27/01/2025 19:16

Ok chuggers in the street I don't like either.

The rest I'm afraid you're being massively, massively unreasonable.

People used to put spare change in pots at the till. Now we all pay by card. They're trying to make up the difference. You can just say no.

A tiny handful of CEOs earn the kind of money you're talking about, usually for running complex international multi-million pound organisations with lots of staff and different activities like charity shops, relief, long term projects etc. Everyone in the sector, CEOs included, are getting paid less than they would in the private sector.

As for mothers in war-torn countries looking healthier than their babies, that's mind blowingly crass. Are you actually saing those mothers are tucking into food and leaving their kids without? FFS.

For a start, a two year old who has lived under war conditions will suffer more from lack of nutrition than an adult. An adult literally starving themselves wouldn't be able to care for children. And children are susceptible to things like diarrhoea from poor nutrition and living in unhygienic conditions. People don't tend to starve to death, they become malnourished because they can only access basic foods and leave out veg, meat etc. then an illness like a tummy bug has much worse consequences for them.

I've found that people who say 'charity begins at home' also don't give to local causes either. All those ads will have gone through a calculation for return on investment, eg they bring in much more in fundraising than they cost to make and broadcast.

Let's face it, you want to live in a consumerist bubble where other people's hardship is kept out of sight because you don't want to give any money to help.

Spot on!

HereBeWormholes · 27/01/2025 21:01

CovertPiggery · 27/01/2025 20:38

This.

Also worked in retail and I genuinely couldn't have given a shit if people said yes or no to these things.

Indeed - and by the same token, no need to be rude to a retail worker just doing what their boss has told them do - a cheery No thanks will do. 🙂

randomusernam · 27/01/2025 20:56

I never donate through companies. They can get the tax back on any donations they make.

HellofromJohnCraven · 27/01/2025 20:51

I donate to tressel trust, lifeboats and hospice monthly by dd.
I will sometimes donate online to a disaster or similar.
Other than that I rely on my resting bitch face to do the talking.

MajorCarolDanvers · 27/01/2025 20:45

oh look another charity bashing thread.

just say no

charities have a duty to raise funds and are perfectly entitled to ask.

giving is a personal choice so if you don’t want to give don’t.

CovertPiggery · 27/01/2025 20:38

Needmorelego · 27/01/2025 20:30

@ERthree they usually ask these days because you do have to press the "no" button but I have NEVER been made to feel I must donate or made to feel guilty or anything like that. It's no more an invasion of my privacy than asking if I need a bag.
The assistants really don't care and are pretty much saying the words they have to do ("do you want half price chocolate/have yo got a clubcard/do you want to donate") on complete auto pilot - I worked in retail for 20 years 😂

This.

Also worked in retail and I genuinely couldn't have given a shit if people said yes or no to these things.

TizerorFizz · 27/01/2025 20:36

@WeCanOnlyDoOurBest Say no thanks because you choose the charities you support. You don’t need to feel guilt about not supporting theirs.

tinytemper66 · 27/01/2025 20:36

I remember someone asking for money for disabled children. I replied "I have one at home"...

Needmorelego · 27/01/2025 20:33

@WeCanOnlyDoOurBest really - being asked to press a button on a machine is "harassment"?
I agree that chuggers on the street/in shop doorways are a pain but I either say "no", put my hand up in a "no" manner or don't even make eye contact.

Needmorelego · 27/01/2025 20:30

@ERthree they usually ask these days because you do have to press the "no" button but I have NEVER been made to feel I must donate or made to feel guilty or anything like that. It's no more an invasion of my privacy than asking if I need a bag.
The assistants really don't care and are pretty much saying the words they have to do ("do you want half price chocolate/have yo got a clubcard/do you want to donate") on complete auto pilot - I worked in retail for 20 years 😂

WeCanOnlyDoOurBest · 27/01/2025 20:26

ERthree · 27/01/2025 20:24

Not the same as a box at the till at all. The person behind the till didn't pick up the box, shake it at you and ask for money. It was private decision to donate, that privacy has now been taken away.

Well said, it feel more like harrassment

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