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To tell my friend (nicely and diplomatically) to get a grip re her divorce?

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JandamiHash · 27/01/2025 13:31

My friend’s OH asked her for a divorce about 8 months ago. Reason being “I’m sorry but I’ve changed and just don’t love you anymore”. This had been said before and they agreed to try and make it work but after a year it just didnt. no kids (by choice) just dogs. I was obviously terribly sorry for her and it was a shock as i thought they'd worked things out. But her struggle to cope is absolutely off the scale.

She posts about 10 times a day on facebook about how heartbroken she is, or posts memories saying things like "To think we will never go here again". Her ex is still her facebook friend! She calls me a lot crying and or asking for help - she was by her own admission the damsel in distress type in their marriage and never learnt how to do things like get the car serviced or change a lightbulb because her ex always did those things. When she first moved out she called me constantly asking how to find the boiler, how to use a thermostat etc

I’ve helped her through it as best I can, but she resolutely doesn’t want to get over it (she’s said this). She will “never be over it” and “never be ready to move on”. Her ex initially said they could be friends and they have a custody arrangement with the dogs so see each other twice a week. She gets upset because ex won’t stay to watch films or have a glass of wine.

I strongly suspect the ex has a new woman (this all coincided with taking up a particular hobby that has lots of women involved) but my friend refuses to believe this is possible.

Met friend for lunch at the weekend, and she spent 3 hours talking about her ex, crying and saying how she will never ever be over their marriage.

I did try and update her about my life - she initially asked how my kids were and I started updating her about my DS who has a chronic condition that’s thankfully been getting a bit better (I hope!). But she so clearly was desperate to stop talking about it and start talking about her ex.

Her other friends and family have attempted to tell her to move on and she’s fallen out with them or put a status on Facebook saying how upset she is (annoyingly to scores of people telling her she has shit friends if they expect her to just move on and she should take as long as she needs).

Now I love her but I’m getting fed up at her lack of self awareness. I get she’s heartbroken but come on - to be so resolutely sure that you always want to be wallowing in misery, and consuming your friends with your grief, is not ok in my book.

WIBU to politely tell her to get a grip and that next time we meet we limit the conversation about her ex? I don’t want to upset her but equally it’s not fair on me for her to be this way

Or am I an insensitive cow who should be a better friend?

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HollyKnight · 28/01/2025 10:23

There is a difference between expecting someone to be over something traumatic in 8 months and expecting their trauma not to still monopolise every single meetup and conversation 8 months later. That complete lack of awareness and insight is not a trauma thing, it is a personality thing. I've been through a number of traumatic events in my life, as I'm sure a lot of other people have, and managed not to trauma dump constantly on my friends with no room for them to share about their lives. In fact, my friends were a distraction from the pain. The opportunity to think about something else. It's not good or healthy to have made zero progress in 8 months. You don't need a friend at that point, you need a therapist.

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Everythingisnumbersnow · 28/01/2025 10:06

meh2025 · 28/01/2025 09:50

So supporting someone for 8 months as they have a public crisis and daily melt down, but then deciding she can now no longer continue to do so makes her a fairweather friend?

How many months/years do you think it is appropriate for someone to give up to their friend's mental health crisis before they are allowed to prioritise their own mental health and boundaries?

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8 months is nothing. As you will learn as you age and see how many people are maimed for life by hard experiences. You can decide your "boundaries" kick in less than a year after a trauma but then why call yourself a friend if you're a going for coffee and cake acquaintance.

Madeinbuck · 28/01/2025 10:05

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Flindersonbark2896 · 28/01/2025 10:01

Op it’s quite clear that your friend does not need anyone telling her to get a grip.

What she needs is someone gently steering her to get sole professional help. Poor woman.

QuimCarrey · 28/01/2025 09:56

CruCru · 28/01/2025 09:54

There is a chance that this is getting worse over time for the OP because the friend has already burnt through other friends.

Good point. I've seen that happen before.

3luckystars · 28/01/2025 09:54

No way, I disagree.
There are 2 people in the friendship. If it’s all take take take on one side then of course the other person will get sick of it eventually.

It’s not like the OP is living a glittering care free life, the OP has her own problems too. A sick child is a real strain. I wouldn’t wish it on anyone.

It’s not a bottomless well of support, at a certain point you have to lift your head up from your own grief and look around and see other people, and they are suffering too, and balance the support. Give them some too.

If it’s all one sided, it is unbalanced, and even a saint would draw the line.

CruCru · 28/01/2025 09:54

JandamiHash · 28/01/2025 09:27

No she has other friends, but she doesn’t get on with her family. We have mutual friends but I don’t want tk ask about their experience of her as it sounds a bit two faced.

There is a chance that this is getting worse over time for the OP because the friend has already burnt through other friends.

meh2025 · 28/01/2025 09:50

Everythingisnumbersnow · 28/01/2025 09:46

I think she's already proven herself a pointless fairweather friend so I don't think it matters too much

So supporting someone for 8 months as they have a public crisis and daily melt down, but then deciding she can now no longer continue to do so makes her a fairweather friend?

How many months/years do you think it is appropriate for someone to give up to their friend's mental health crisis before they are allowed to prioritise their own mental health and boundaries?

Everythingisnumbersnow · 28/01/2025 09:46

meh2025 · 28/01/2025 09:44

She did support her during her 8 month crisis. Is she supposed to continue doing so forever?

What's the end date that you would find acceptable for the OP to want to prioritise her own mental health and boundaries?

I think she's already proven herself a pointless fairweather friend so I don't think it matters too much

meh2025 · 28/01/2025 09:44

Everythingisnumbersnow · 28/01/2025 09:39

I think you are a bad friend if you can't support someone through a crisis. She probably WON'T get over it. Her life is changed forever.

She did support her during her 8 month crisis. Is she supposed to continue doing so forever?

What's the end date that you would find acceptable for the OP to want to prioritise her own mental health and boundaries?

ThatMerryReader · 28/01/2025 09:43

Yes, your friend needs to stop embarrassing herself in such a pathetic way. Do try to talk sense into her.

Everythingisnumbersnow · 28/01/2025 09:39

JandamiHash · 28/01/2025 09:34

I’m an arsehole because I want to spend more than 2 minutes out of 180 minutes telling her about my life and my sick son? Over the course of 8 months?

Are your friendships only ever about one person and the other wanting to be seen as a person is “an arsehole”?

I think you are a bad friend if you can't support someone through a crisis. She probably WON'T get over it. Her life is changed forever.

JandamiHash · 28/01/2025 09:36

Katiesaidthat · 28/01/2025 09:33

She is following her and it pings every time a new post is up. And being on FB isn´t a crime.

It definitely doesn’t ping up when she posts, or anyone posts. The only time I get notifications is when businesses do that annoying thing of tagging ‘everyone’

But when I log in the first post is almost always a new post from her. I find it a bit odd that I’m being criticised for using Facebook in the way one is meant to 😂

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I’m an arsehole because I want to spend more than 2 minutes out of 180 minutes telling her about my life and my sick son? Over the course of 8 months?

Are your friendships only ever about one person and the other wanting to be seen as a person is “an arsehole”?

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Katiesaidthat · 28/01/2025 09:33

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She is following her and it pings every time a new post is up. And being on FB isn´t a crime.

JandamiHash · 28/01/2025 09:30

What I will say is lots of people have rebutted my belief that it’s not the same as a death but people have definitely made fair points that it’s a type of grief so whilst, as a person who experienced a devastating death and can’t imagine it being comparable to my dad still being in the world somewhere, I accept the impact is the same for others.

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Britain’s Got Talent?

Who have I disagreed with? Only the people saying in a bad friend.

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JandamiHash · 28/01/2025 09:27

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How did it go down like a sack of shit? I simply said that I have experienced grief as my dad died.

Do you have a problem with me @Madeinbuck?

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JandamiHash · 28/01/2025 09:27

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No she has other friends, but she doesn’t get on with her family. We have mutual friends but I don’t want tk ask about their experience of her as it sounds a bit two faced.

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BetterWithPockets · 28/01/2025 08:46

fetchacloth · 27/01/2025 19:18

I've experienced both being divorced and widowed, and I believe there is a real finality to being widowed that isn't the same as being divorced.
Sure, the divorce really took the stuffing out of me but I accepted it and was over it within a few months and moved on.
Being widowed was totally different - for two years afterwards I just wanted to be dead myself as I didn't see the point of living. I had to have extensive counselling during that time just to accept that it had happened. Another two years later I'm now feeling more my normal self 🙂

I’m glad you’re feeling more your normal self now. I completely agree about the finality but for me, in terms of timeframes, it was the other way around. I didn’t bounce back from my bereavement, of course, but it didn’t floor me like my divorce did (perhaps because we’d been together since school and there was also an element of betrayal — he cheated, and it was years before I found out; whereas when my DP died, he’d been ill for a while so we’d both had time to prepare — as much as you can.)

PeggyMitchellsCameo · 28/01/2025 08:36

I think you have been an amazing friend. You have helped your friend in every way.
But at some point the sustained help doesn’t help, and that’s not your fault. You are being a friend in the best way you can.
When anyone is on the same stage as your friend, it becomes like an obsession and it won’t be moved. The fact is, her husband wanted to leave the marriage.
And I am sorry as awful as it is, it’s not the same as someone dying in horrific circumstances.
The only person who can decide to get professional help is your friend. A counsellor won’t let her sit and talk about the same thing for three hours at a time because it’s not helping her. And she needs someone whose job it is to help her get better.
The only thing you can do is decide how to act moving forwards. I think it is fair as a good friend to tell her that the constant Facebook posting and dog-wrangling is keeping her stuck. If she doesn’t like it, then that’s her reaction to own.
You can still spend time with her, within limits and if she brings everything back to her divorce, tell her it’s hurting her, not helping her.
I say all this as someone who had an awful breakdown and I had a pretty straight talking friend and I am so glad she called me out. It helped me see I needed professional help.
Your friend’s behaviour isn’t just about her divorce, but will probably have deep-seated roots in her childhood and previous experiences.
If your friend reacts badly, then step away. Tell her you will be there for her in the future.

Didimum · 28/01/2025 08:05

JandamiHash · 27/01/2025 16:10

Sorry but a break up is not comparable to a death

I can sympathise with all in your post, OP, but yes, a divorce is comparable to a death. And you will hear many divorced people say the same. You have not been divorced, so how would you know?

Interesting you minimise it by calling it a ‘break up’, as though she’s someone silly and young with a boyfriend.