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To tell my friend (nicely and diplomatically) to get a grip re her divorce?

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JandamiHash · 27/01/2025 13:31

My friend’s OH asked her for a divorce about 8 months ago. Reason being “I’m sorry but I’ve changed and just don’t love you anymore”. This had been said before and they agreed to try and make it work but after a year it just didnt. no kids (by choice) just dogs. I was obviously terribly sorry for her and it was a shock as i thought they'd worked things out. But her struggle to cope is absolutely off the scale.

She posts about 10 times a day on facebook about how heartbroken she is, or posts memories saying things like "To think we will never go here again". Her ex is still her facebook friend! She calls me a lot crying and or asking for help - she was by her own admission the damsel in distress type in their marriage and never learnt how to do things like get the car serviced or change a lightbulb because her ex always did those things. When she first moved out she called me constantly asking how to find the boiler, how to use a thermostat etc

I’ve helped her through it as best I can, but she resolutely doesn’t want to get over it (she’s said this). She will “never be over it” and “never be ready to move on”. Her ex initially said they could be friends and they have a custody arrangement with the dogs so see each other twice a week. She gets upset because ex won’t stay to watch films or have a glass of wine.

I strongly suspect the ex has a new woman (this all coincided with taking up a particular hobby that has lots of women involved) but my friend refuses to believe this is possible.

Met friend for lunch at the weekend, and she spent 3 hours talking about her ex, crying and saying how she will never ever be over their marriage.

I did try and update her about my life - she initially asked how my kids were and I started updating her about my DS who has a chronic condition that’s thankfully been getting a bit better (I hope!). But she so clearly was desperate to stop talking about it and start talking about her ex.

Her other friends and family have attempted to tell her to move on and she’s fallen out with them or put a status on Facebook saying how upset she is (annoyingly to scores of people telling her she has shit friends if they expect her to just move on and she should take as long as she needs).

Now I love her but I’m getting fed up at her lack of self awareness. I get she’s heartbroken but come on - to be so resolutely sure that you always want to be wallowing in misery, and consuming your friends with your grief, is not ok in my book.

WIBU to politely tell her to get a grip and that next time we meet we limit the conversation about her ex? I don’t want to upset her but equally it’s not fair on me for her to be this way

Or am I an insensitive cow who should be a better friend?

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2025willbemytime · 27/01/2025 16:56

JandamiHash · 27/01/2025 16:10

Sorry but a break up is not comparable to a death

It actually is. A bereavement, divorce and moving house are the top three stresses.

2025willbemytime · 27/01/2025 16:55

meh2025 · 27/01/2025 13:48

She's not going to listen, and sounds kind of mental. How you deal with that is up to you.

Sounds kind of mental? Fucking hell that is brutal.

TheFormidableMrsC · 27/01/2025 16:55

@ThejoyofNC I agree. I told OP to tell her kindly she was not able to offer support. I was very lucky with the support I had and I've paid it forward several times. It doesn't mean that OP has to. However, there is no need to minimise how deeply painful it is with "get a grip".

aprayeratatime · 27/01/2025 16:54

Divorce for a woman who put a man on a pedestal to that extent, not to be able to change a bulb???? is going to be very distressing, for sure

2025willbemytime · 27/01/2025 16:53

I hear what you're saying but I think you're not understanding the devastation that a divorce wreaks and has on her.

It was my choice to divorce but what has been the struggle is getting over what he did to cause the need for the divorce.

I had ready stepped right back from a friend due to something unrelated she had said but what she said since has told me she's no friend, she has no understanding and I know she'll think I'm wrong. But I'm not.

SoNiceToComeHomeTo · 27/01/2025 16:51

Your friend may be devastated for a long time, grief at a breakup takes people different ways, but broadcasting the fact 10 times a day on social media is unlikely to make her feel any better. I'd unfollow her as probably at least some of her other friends will. When you meet in real life it may be time to say that you don't think mulling over and over what's happened is helping her and you're getting depressed with hearing it because there's nothing you can say or do to help.

Errors · 27/01/2025 16:47

heyhopotato · 27/01/2025 14:29

"Why would you pine for someone who has outright told you they don't love you anymore."

What a bizarre comment, have you never been dumped or something?

I think that comment was made by someone with a decent sense of self-worth actually

OP, I think you need to try and advise your friend to find a healthier way of dealing with it all. I get it’s draining for you, really I do - but it can’t be helping her either.

ThejoyofNC · 27/01/2025 16:47

TheFormidableMrsC · 27/01/2025 16:40

For me it was worse. Until you've been through something like that, you haven't a clue. It's life ruining and I speak as somebody who has experienced a lot of loss.

Nobody is saying she can't be in pain. But OP doesn't have to become an emotional dumping ground over and over again, that's not fair.

stardust777 · 27/01/2025 16:43

Personally, I'd get in touch to let her know that you'll be quiet for the next few weeks as things are full on family-wise. To soften the blow, I'd signpost any resources or organisations that might be able to help e.g.

https://www.mind.org.uk/information-support/guides-to-support-and-services/seeking-help-for-a-mental-health-problem/mental-health-helplines/

I'd encourage her to go back to her GP and ask re. other avenues that might help e.g. (exercise on prescription)

www.nhs.uk/mental-health/self-help/guides-tools-and-activities/exercise-for-depression/

TheFormidableMrsC · 27/01/2025 16:40

JandamiHash · 27/01/2025 16:10

Sorry but a break up is not comparable to a death

For me it was worse. Until you've been through something like that, you haven't a clue. It's life ruining and I speak as somebody who has experienced a lot of loss.

TightlyLacedCorset · 27/01/2025 16:38

JandamiHash · 27/01/2025 16:10

Sorry but a break up is not comparable to a death

Some say they would have coped better if their partner had died. That way they wouldn't have the rejection and betrayal.

I really feel for your friend. It may take her years to get over.

CarterBeatsTheDevil · 27/01/2025 16:34

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Maybe I'm weird but I personally sometimes go ahead and check my friends' profiles. Because I won't necessarily get a notification whenever they post something and I like to know how they're doing and what they're up to. Because they're my friends. Perhaps OP does that too?

Pipsquiggle · 27/01/2025 16:30

I am sorry OP but I think YABU, however, I think her family should be her sounding board for all her woes not you. It can take some people a long time to get over a break up.

It took my DSIS a good 2 years to get over her divorce - more or less the same length of marriage and no DC.

She catastrophized a lot. We always said, moan to us not your friends (as she was constantly moaning) and we didn't want her mates to get sick of her.

JandamiHash · 27/01/2025 16:26

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She does yes

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JandamiHash · 27/01/2025 16:26

I don’t like to ask but I do wonder if my friend’s helplessness was a factor in the break up. I know I couldn’t be arsed having to look after someone like that. One of the best things my dad ever did for me (though I did a monumental eye roll at the time being a know it all teenager) was shortly before I went to Uni gave me a little booklet he’d made of things to learn - things like how to find a stop cock, how to wire a plug, how to hang a picture, how to change a tyre, what to do in a power cut etc. I still have it!! And he told me to never ever be dependent on anyone else for this or allow them to be dependent on me.

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JandamiHash · 27/01/2025 16:23

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No, by choice

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latetothefisting · 27/01/2025 16:20

she asked you how to find the boiler???

bad enough to be asked how to work it, (and unless you have the exact same one surely google would be better placed) but they aren't exactly small! Who doesn't know where the boiler is in their own home?! And why would a friend who had never been to your new place have a better idea than you?!

I agree with the poster who queried whether her behaviour wasn't part of the reason he left. I know everyone has different relationships but I'd feel like I was looking after a child rather than being in a romantic relationship between two competent adults.

even if he didn't meet another woman at his new hobby it probably gave him experience of more independent interesting women and was instrumental in some way to opening his eyes about his own relationshop

JandamiHash · 27/01/2025 16:15

Oh and they’ve been married for 13 years, together for I think about 16. But since lockdown it’s gone downhill - the ex had one foot out the door since then really

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HT2222 · 27/01/2025 16:14

But she doesn't want to cut ties - that is the point. She is feeding off of the attention. The more you and others give her, the "happier" she is

HoppityBun · 27/01/2025 16:13

WIBU to politely tell her to get a grip and that next time we meet we limit the conversation about her ex? I don’t want to upset her but equally it’s not fair on me for her to be this way
Or am I an insensitive cow who should be a better friend?

Neither. Don’t say anything but limit your involvement with her, both in length of meetings and in frequency, for now

JandamiHash · 27/01/2025 16:12

Oh and I’ve said a few times to knock the dog custody thing on the head but apparently neither of them can live without the dogs! I’ve said I think it would be easier to just cut ties completely there’s no reason to have each other in their lives except for the dogs and it just prolongs the pain

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