To think eventually, UK could become a part of the USA?

Yeah, I noticed that! I had notifications saying I had been quoted/reacted to and when I clicked on to see, the thread came up deleted for breaking talk guidelines.
Now it's randomly back.

Here we go again, another far right thread starter making stupid claims about Starmer, but dressing it up as something else.

I'm genuinely disappointed that Mumsnet doesn't delete these threads as soon as they are created, they are that ridiculous.

This thread disappeared overnight for "Breaking Talk Guidelines"....(not that I thought it did).

Why is it back all of a sudden?

No comment from @MNHQ about why it was removed, or why it's back 🤔

Look close and you’ll see the source.

They might actually be female. Other than that, I agree

How is it superior when the uninsured or underinsured do not have access to quality healthcare?

In the UK you can also pay your insurance and have access to private healthcare but the NHS exists as a safety net. Nobody in the UK has to go bankrupt due to medical costs.

Source for that image. Although I can imagine that - the USA has a lot of uber wealthy individuals, but also lots of extremely poor ones.

It’s not just 8% that have issues. Even the insured can have issues. The film Sicko laid it out quite nicely.

Even personally my aunt’s cancer treatment had a 20k excess.

on top of this, there is a hell of a lot of UK support for Trump, I don’t even think the British would object to a takeover on the whole

Anything is true when you lie.

You must be bored @CyanSeal

Because life happens. Some people are excessively poor and do not earn enough to create extravagant savings funds.

Eeeeeeeewwwwww!

Would never happen. Nobody wants that apart from weirdos like Darren Grimes.

Why don't they have savings and a rainy day fund?

No. Can you provide a link showing that the ACA has been repealed or the subsidies eliminated?

I'm sorry, but how can you be OK with people 'owing the balance' when that balance can be hundreds of thousands of dollars, which will put them in irrecoverable debt? How can a system like that in one of the wealthiest countries in the world be anything but morally deeply dubious?

I'm not wedded to the NHS - I'm Dutch and the Netherlands has an insurance based system. The difference is that it doesn't leave people in catastrophic debt.

Nobody should have to rely on charity for something as essential as healthcare.

You know Trump has abolished this?

Maybe time to up the medication, OP 🤦🏼‍♂️

In that case, she would have qualified for subsidized coverage under the ACA.

https://www.valuepenguin.com/aca-subsidy-calculator#:~:text=Subsidies%20are%20calculated%20in%20two%20ways:%20*,insurance%2C%20no%20matter%20how%20much%20you%20earn.

But you might fall in the middle: too poor to get insurance and too rich to qualify for Medicaid.

And end up like my friend did. She broke her ankle, and came too in hospital. Soon as they knew she couldn't pay they bandaged her ankle like you might do with a mild sprain, and sent her home telling her that if she walked on it before it was mended she'd probably be disabled for life.

Great system.

I’d love it. It going to happen of course. But I’d be moving to a different state for sure!

I don't know why we don't ask the Chinese. Their AI is cheaper. And they have socialised medicine

Satire alert

My what now? No idea what the first line is meant to mean

I haven't taken the thread seriously. It's bumpf on a chat site not policy

I'll play.

So will we be a republic or can we convince them to be a kingdom? If kingdom, King Trump the First, the one and only. Or King Charles III with seconded King Harry the first? Harry is already there so that would be seamless.
Or perhaps we can join Russia. Or Equatorial Guinea. The despots are many. Or even Rwanda. We've already given them lots of free money (thanks Tories).

Op, whatever you are smoking, snorting, drinking, injecting. I want the same

@EasternStandard - your engagement is showing. UK citizens calling for Trump to take us over is ridiculous. They are melts!

How do you suggest anyone sort out the migrant crisis?

Only around 5% of immigrants every year are 'undocumented'. The rest come with a visa. Ie, they're invited. A fair percentage of 'undocumented' immigrants get granted refugee status. The majority of the rest get deported (or that's where we're headed now we have a government in place who's addressing the issue).

What do you suggest the UK does? `Lets people drown in the channel? Stops hearing asylum claims?

By the way when a right wing person says 'no one has the balls to do anything about it', or 'doesn't have the courage to make a hard decision', they're usually referring to someone doing something cruel that breaches another person's human rights. Trump would be that person to do that, because he's basically completely amoral.He has no conscience. There's usually a nasty price that a country pays for putting someone like that in power.

It depends on their circumstances. If they're low income, they can apply for Medicaid, which will cover medical expenses retroactively for a time. If they don't qualify for Medicaid and genuinely can't pay, the hospital may write it off as charity care, which non-profit hospitals are required to do. Or they may owe the balance.

92% of the population has either private insurance or government provided insurance. The other 8% is a problem. The Affordable Care Act coverage offers heavily subsidized private coverage based on income, but it's not retroactive. People can't be forced to obtain coverage.

https://www.census.gov/library/publications/2024/demo/p60-284.html