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To think eventually, UK could become a part of the USA?

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CyanSeal · 27/01/2025 12:20

Depending on how Trump gets on … he doesn’t seem shy about taking over other countries. On paper it would make sense globally for the UK and the USA to become one … USA, Canada,UK - what a superpower that would be.

on top of this, there is a hell of a lot of UK support for Trump, I don’t even think the British would object to a takeover on the whole

Seems far fetched I know - but less far fetched that it did a few years ago

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Serpentstooth · 06/02/2025 08:12

I see Reform voters are quite keen on this. But what about Sovereignty? That's the hill on which you claim you'd live or die. No more Rule Britannia. No Last night of the Proms. The Orange Dream and cohort camping it up in Buck House and turning Hyde Park into a golf course. Melanie and Ivanka on the red carpet wearing the Crown Jewels. You need to think it through people. I dont think you'd like it.

Mamebea · 05/02/2025 17:14

LoveLifeBeHappy · 29/01/2025 16:01

This has to be the dumbest thing I've read today.

Sadly, look at some of the reform comments This is one of them.

T0pcat7 · 04/02/2025 11:48

Are you for real? So you want your rights as a women taken away from you, your daughters and every other women in this country. You want a man to decide on your reproductive rights? If this is case please move to the USA

ntmdino · 31/01/2025 17:20

WaryCrow · 31/01/2025 17:14

U.K. justice system might be independent of political party bias, but it is now entirely ruled by money. It’s gone back to Victorian times, when law was there to protect the property of the rich. The rest of us have no recourse to it. Lawlessness is spreading.

I think the main point is that the justices in all courts here are picked independently of political bias, and the political parties are not allowed to influence the process of nomination.

Contrast that with the fact that the very same process is explicitly political in the US. It's the main reason that there's no remaining balance against Trump's agenda - the Republicans control both Houses, the Presidency and the Supreme Court, as well as the DoJ itself.

Here, on the other hand, there is no consequence for the Supreme Court giving the government a black eye when it's breaking the law. That's a hugely important thing.

WaryCrow · 31/01/2025 17:14

U.K. justice system might be independent of political party bias, but it is now entirely ruled by money. It’s gone back to Victorian times, when law was there to protect the property of the rich. The rest of us have no recourse to it. Lawlessness is spreading.

pointythings · 31/01/2025 17:13

RedToothBrush · 31/01/2025 15:59

The justice system in the US is aligned with and picked via political parties.

The justice system in the UK is independent of any political parties.

The US system is fucked in the head for this reason. You can't have justice if it has an ideological bias.

Well, we do have Police and Crime Commissioners, courtesy of the previous government, and they are absolutely politically aligned. That was and is a step in the wrong direction.

RedToothBrush · 31/01/2025 15:59

Serpentstooth · 30/01/2025 20:38

Obviously the justice system is imperfect. If it was not then Trump would be where he belongs. In prison.

The justice system in the US is aligned with and picked via political parties.

The justice system in the UK is independent of any political parties.

The US system is fucked in the head for this reason. You can't have justice if it has an ideological bias.

Serpentstooth · 30/01/2025 20:38

Obviously the justice system is imperfect. If it was not then Trump would be where he belongs. In prison.

Coolasfeck · 30/01/2025 20:24

Feelslikewinter · 29/01/2025 12:00

He is.

Unless you believe that the reason only 1% of rapes ends in prosecution is that 99% are false allegations?

Because either that’s true or the justice system is imperfect.

Hi ex wife Ivana also accused him of rape then withdrew it when he first became President.

Also did we ever find out what he was doing on that island with Epstein?

Serpentstooth · 30/01/2025 18:49

He is a rapist, fact, adjudicated by law, not opinion. He is also pp, an old fool. Have you heard him today, opining on the Washington tragedy? A disgusting man purveying misinformation in order to foment racial disorder.

Baloneyhahaboohoo · 30/01/2025 18:22

Trump is an OLD FOOL needs to retire

Baloneyhahaboohoo · 30/01/2025 16:57

What errors are you referring

pestowithwalnuts · 30/01/2025 16:55

Couldn't think of anything worse.
What a stupid idea

Baloneyhahaboohoo · 30/01/2025 16:53

Are you mad ? Would we be speaking in horrible shouty American accents it’ll never happen - UK will remain as it is - do you want someone like creepy trump who thinks he can buy Greenland? The man can’t even make his so called business ideas to pay off- they didn’t succeed suggest you go and live in the USA the country that sanctions guns and executions - GOODBYE

ShortColdandGrey · 30/01/2025 13:22

That is the stupidest thing I have read for a while and for the posters that said they would prefer Trump to Starmer you should lose your right to vote 😂You would like to have a would be dictator in charge of the UK?

Fartypants83 · 30/01/2025 13:14

There is a lot of these far right troll posts at the moment, generally seeking to subtly provide legitimacy to right wing politicians, but actually being very obvious about it.

Some are funny.

This one is really, really funny!

SerendipityJane · 30/01/2025 13:03

JustSawJohnny · 30/01/2025 12:37

Of course we all get an opinion - you are here giving yours, no? - but it is interesting that some are happy to bury facts about this truly abhorrent 'man' by, let me guess, branding reports 'false news'?

Many see him for what he is and yes, judge those who are happy to accept his hideousness.

Like it or lump it. That's the reality.

There are none so blind as those that won't see.

JustSawJohnny · 30/01/2025 12:37

tammy98 · 29/01/2025 11:48

He is not a rapist. And believe it or that is my opinion. Last time I looked, we can still have those 😆

Of course we all get an opinion - you are here giving yours, no? - but it is interesting that some are happy to bury facts about this truly abhorrent 'man' by, let me guess, branding reports 'false news'?

Many see him for what he is and yes, judge those who are happy to accept his hideousness.

Like it or lump it. That's the reality.

Fimofriend · 30/01/2025 12:12

Betchyaby · 27/01/2025 14:34

A what if...

A what if that happens very often.

Grammarnut · 29/01/2025 18:23

No. Any more than Canada will (the US tried that one in 1812 and got their Capitol and the White House burned as well as their own fingers). There is a deep, deep cultural divide and also a huge amount of water.

SerendipityJane · 29/01/2025 17:09

BlitheSpirits · 29/01/2025 16:04

95% have voted you are an idiot, OP!

I suspect 5% were either being polite, ironic, or both.

Laurmolonlabe · 29/01/2025 17:05

It's not easier to pay people less, it's just far better if you are very rich, we have to accept that the very rich run our government and pretty much all the other governments. Building more houses has not brought the cost of housing down in my lifetime (63 years) it isn't going to do so now, no matter how many houses are built-there is no housing crisis for those that can afford the prices-there's a huge amount of supply , mostly bought by foreign investors-more houses built more houses will be bought by foreign investors-they have not wish to lower rents, many of the properties stay empty because they are purely for investment.

Building more houses will solve absolutely nothing, people can only live closer to work if they can afford it-building more houses which are not affordable will not do it, developers will not build affordable housing because they make less profit, they can't be forced-which is why in the past affordable housing was built by the government, but they won't build more they will just sell more of the ones they have.

BlitheSpirits · 29/01/2025 16:04

95% have voted you are an idiot, OP!

LoveLifeBeHappy · 29/01/2025 16:01

CyanSeal · 27/01/2025 12:20

Depending on how Trump gets on … he doesn’t seem shy about taking over other countries. On paper it would make sense globally for the UK and the USA to become one … USA, Canada,UK - what a superpower that would be.

on top of this, there is a hell of a lot of UK support for Trump, I don’t even think the British would object to a takeover on the whole

Seems far fetched I know - but less far fetched that it did a few years ago

This has to be the dumbest thing I've read today.

ntmdino · 29/01/2025 13:23

Sally20099 · 29/01/2025 06:57

😂 …tell me you don’t have a clue about economics without telling me.

GDP is a misleading measure - it's not remotely related to quality of life, which is what this thread's (largely) about, especially in a society that's as skewed towards the ultra-rich as the US. In a normal country, a higher GDP per capita would at least translate into higher tax yield and thus better public services, but the political skew of the US doesn't allow that either; the idea of public services benefiting the public is "socialism" and thus cannot be allowed.

If you had a clue about economics, you'd already know that the more unequal a society in terms of wealth, the more useless GDP per capita is as a metric because it's an average...and the US is just about the most unequal economy in the developed world. If you don't believe me, then remove the top and bottom 5% and recalculate it. I guarantee it'll look worse than even ours does in the UK, and that's quite something.

So, I guess the question is...why do you think it's a worthwhile metric as applied to the US economy?