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To think eventually, UK could become a part of the USA?

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CyanSeal · 27/01/2025 12:20

Depending on how Trump gets on … he doesn’t seem shy about taking over other countries. On paper it would make sense globally for the UK and the USA to become one … USA, Canada,UK - what a superpower that would be.

on top of this, there is a hell of a lot of UK support for Trump, I don’t even think the British would object to a takeover on the whole

Seems far fetched I know - but less far fetched that it did a few years ago

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LifeExperience · 27/01/2025 14:26

WaryCrow · 27/01/2025 13:29

Enjoy your own conflicts then, and don’t keep expecting NATO - the U.K. particularly - to support your overseas adventures. We have no geographical need to worry about China and I would like to see better relations between us and the Earth’s oldest civilisation. We could do with weakening their ties to Russia at least.

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You send token forces, get in the way and then expect medals and ass-kissing afterward. My lived experience.

FancyBiscuitsLevel · 27/01/2025 14:25

Additional question @CyanSeal - would the whole of the UK be one state or would England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland be separate? How would the USA boarder between northern Island and the Republic of Ireland/the EU continue to be soft or would there need to be a hard boarder?

LifeExperience · 27/01/2025 14:24

WaryCrow · 27/01/2025 13:29

Enjoy your own conflicts then, and don’t keep expecting NATO - the U.K. particularly - to support your overseas adventures. We have no geographical need to worry about China and I would like to see better relations between us and the Earth’s oldest civilisation. We could do with weakening their ties to Russia at least.

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Good news! As a retired American military officer I say with authority that your token deployments hindered more than helped, at least in Helmand. The chain of command was a cluster fuck.

Betchyaby · 27/01/2025 14:24

BIossomtoes · 27/01/2025 14:21

No way is it more likely. Nobody in their right mind wants US healthcare.

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US healthcare is far superior, you just have to pay insurance. We pay higher taxes and our NHS has collapsed due to being over burdened. Waiting a month for a Drs appointment, waiting years for an operation? This doesn't happen in the US.

Hotzenplotz · 27/01/2025 14:23

Eh?!

SerenityNowInsanityLater · 27/01/2025 14:23

BIossomtoes · 27/01/2025 14:21

No way is it more likely. Nobody in their right mind wants US healthcare.

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Seriously. As an American who's lived nearly 30 years in the UK, the NHS still, with all its faults, is amazing! When you sign up for healthcare in the US, you sign your death warrant. BYOB (Bring your own burial ground).

FancyBiscuitsLevel · 27/01/2025 14:22

CyanSeal · 27/01/2025 12:28

Me too!

Then again I’d take Mr Bean over Starmer

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Problem with your plan OP is this- you don’t like Starmer, you are presumably surrounded by people who don’t like Starmer but do like Trump. Due to this you think there’s a majority who hates Starmer but like Trump. But we still aren’t even a year on from the country rejecting the Tories for Labour, so most people clearly don’t agree with you on Starmer.

and remember the left in the US is closer to the Tories, the right we rejected, the right in the USA of Trump is very right wing compared to what the UK electorate has just picked.

unless we were invaded and occupied, I’d presume there’d need to be a vote. Even parking the sticking point of dumping the King/Royal Family, do you really think people who voted for Starmer’s Labour Party last summer would vote for Trump?

Goldenbear · 27/01/2025 14:21

Betchyaby · 27/01/2025 14:20

It means being dictated to by unelected foreign powers.

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To you maybe not to many of us. Leaving the EU has resulted in Economic disaster.

BIossomtoes · 27/01/2025 14:21

EasternStandard · 27/01/2025 14:19

Trump offered the UK a free trade deal (goods not people) after Brexit and your gov't didn't take it.

I think we'd be more likely now given the circumstances. What do you think will it happen?

No way is it more likely. Nobody in their right mind wants US healthcare.

SerenityNowInsanityLater · 27/01/2025 14:20

4th of July could get a bit tricky.

Goldenbear · 27/01/2025 14:20

LifeExperience · 27/01/2025 14:17

Americans use knives. I do, however, microwave my tea. Let the pearl clutching begin.

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Why, why microwave tea, don't you have a kettle?

Betchyaby · 27/01/2025 14:20

Goldenbear · 27/01/2025 14:18

Yes but in that context, different cultures are celebrated, they are allowed, it's not a melting pot like the U.S.

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It means being dictated to by unelected foreign powers.

EasternStandard · 27/01/2025 14:19

Trump offered the UK a free trade deal (goods not people) after Brexit and your gov't didn't take it.

I think we'd be more likely now given the circumstances. What do you think will it happen?

SerenityNowInsanityLater · 27/01/2025 14:19

LifeExperience · 27/01/2025 14:17

Americans use knives. I do, however, microwave my tea. Let the pearl clutching begin.

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Nah. We use guns for everything, including eating.

Goldenbear · 27/01/2025 14:18

Betchyaby · 27/01/2025 14:16

Yet many people still bitch about wanting to re-join the EU.

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Yes but in that context, different cultures are celebrated, they are allowed, it's not a melting pot like the U.S.

beAsensible1 · 27/01/2025 14:17

no.

LifeExperience · 27/01/2025 14:17

Deathraystare · 27/01/2025 13:27

Be taken o over by a country that microwaves tea and don't use a knife. NO!

Americans use knives. I do, however, microwave my tea. Let the pearl clutching begin.

Anniedash · 27/01/2025 14:17

Abhannmor · 27/01/2025 14:15

Crikey . There speaks someone who hasn't seen the Tent Cities in Philadelphia , Los Angeles even Vegas ...you name it. The crumbling infrastructure, the broken health service, the laughable railways. Not all Trump's fault I know. The rot set in with Reagan iirc.

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Have you seen the slums and ghettos of inner city UK?

Betchyaby · 27/01/2025 14:16

MermaidEyes · 27/01/2025 14:15

This. Us British hate the thought of having to be part of anything else and be told what to do by other countries. It's the island mentality 😂

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Yet many people still bitch about wanting to re-join the EU.

Goldenbear · 27/01/2025 14:16

LifeExperience · 27/01/2025 14:13

Bingo! You're starting to get it. The US wants out of NATO.

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Hardly a revelation is it, it's been discussed and written about for years now. It is ashame that the special relationship that Reagan had with Thatcher is no longer something that is wanted.

Abhannmor · 27/01/2025 14:15

Anniedash · 27/01/2025 13:39

It would be much better for this country than letting the shower of shit establishment that we have here run the country. Hurtling faster towards the inevitable 3rd world status.

Crikey . There speaks someone who hasn't seen the Tent Cities in Philadelphia , Los Angeles even Vegas ...you name it. The crumbling infrastructure, the broken health service, the laughable railways. Not all Trump's fault I know. The rot set in with Reagan iirc.

MermaidEyes · 27/01/2025 14:15

MajorCarolDanvers · 27/01/2025 13:29

Not a chance that the country which voted for Brexit would chose to join another union with even less independence offered.

This. Us British hate the thought of having to be part of anything else and be told what to do by other countries. It's the island mentality 😂

LifeExperience · 27/01/2025 14:15

EasternStandard · 27/01/2025 13:20

I think this would be goods not people

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Trump offered the UK a free trade deal (goods not people) after Brexit and your gov't didn't take it.

JoyousGreyOrca · 27/01/2025 14:14

OP, I know you may be a bot or a troll.
But if you are real, get off the internet and mix with real people. The [problem with the internet is you can get into online worm holes where you can end up thinking that a very extreme view is widely shared.

There are Trump supporters in the UK, although less than I suspect Trump thinks there are. But even most of them do not want Britain to become ruled by the US. Most people want their own country to be ruled by their own Prime Ministers and Presidents.

I am also not sure you understand what the UK being ruled by the US would mean. It would certainly mean abolishing the Royal Family as Trump is the Head of State. It would mean many UK laws changing to comply with US Federal laws, and many of those would be vastly unpopular.

Your positions i an extremely minority view in the UK.

LifeExperience · 27/01/2025 14:13

bumblingbovine49 · 27/01/2025 13:18

This completely true . The USA can't be considered an ally any more. I'd say it is a power on par with Russia and China in terms of how we need to consider their international aims. Europe is looking like it really needs to stick together, and obviously NATO contries as well.

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Bingo! You're starting to get it. The US wants out of NATO.