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To think eventually, UK could become a part of the USA?

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CyanSeal · 27/01/2025 12:20

Depending on how Trump gets on … he doesn’t seem shy about taking over other countries. On paper it would make sense globally for the UK and the USA to become one … USA, Canada,UK - what a superpower that would be.

on top of this, there is a hell of a lot of UK support for Trump, I don’t even think the British would object to a takeover on the whole

Seems far fetched I know - but less far fetched that it did a few years ago

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JoyousGreyOrca · 27/01/2025 14:48

I would also have thought the fairy tale that privatising services makes them better would have disappeared with the state of the privatised railways.

Betchyaby · 27/01/2025 14:48

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JoyousGreyOrca · 27/01/2025 14:47

And all that would happen is what is happened to US dentistry. A small number of state funded places for healthcare. Some covered by insurance (you have dentistry insurance offered by most private dentists), and people who can afford neither having to pay for what they can afford.

The state of children's teeth in the UK has declined dramatically since NHS dentistry was ruined.

BunnyLake · 27/01/2025 14:46

I don’t know anyone who supports him. So will we start talking in American accents, have tax added on top of the price tag, have guns for sale in the middle aisle of Lidl and no socialised healthcare, no price regulated pharmaceuticals and probably no pavements (or should that be sidewalks?).

JoyousGreyOrca · 27/01/2025 14:45

@Ddndka Not what this thread is about. But all insurance systems spend about 5% to 20% of their total expenditure on selling insurance, processing copays, and dealing with fraud. So our health costs would rise by a minimum of 5% over night, even with no change in our health budget. And the UK spends below the EU average on healthcare.

saltinesandcoffeecups · 27/01/2025 14:45

SerendipityJane · 27/01/2025 14:42

The gist of it that I remember was that it made economic sense and our laws are compatible

Utter bollocks.
We don't have a written constitution for a start which is a sine non qua

Well take it up with Economist… I didn’t write the fucking article

BatchCookBabe · 27/01/2025 14:45

rewilded · 27/01/2025 14:34

I wouldn't mind the UK being the 51st state. Infact I would welcome it - where do I sign?

Move to America if you want to be American. I would jump off the planet if America took over the UK. I can't think of many things worse than being American/part of America! SHUDDER 😖

It will never happen though. As I said, the British wouldn't let in happen. No-one in their right mind would want this to happen.

Betchyaby · 27/01/2025 14:45

Goldenbear · 27/01/2025 14:31

Sorry, I don't know if you know but we have left the EU (unfortunately) they don't tell us to do anything.

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Ah so you accept we were being dictated to, yet you want to re-join. Proved my point regarding the hypocrisy of pp effectively saying 'we don't want to be bossed around' whilst simultaneously advocating for readmission to the EU. It makes me laugh! Though we have left, it was with retained legislation. Funny how you completely ignored addressing the fact our economy grew after Brexit despite repeating parrot fashion the BBC spiel of economic collapse. I'm still yet to see it.

BIossomtoes · 27/01/2025 14:45

Ddndka · 27/01/2025 14:43

I'd rather have an EU style social insurance system than the NHS

Which one? Every country has its own and they’re all different.

Ddndka · 27/01/2025 14:43

I'd rather have an EU style social insurance system than the NHS

JoyousGreyOrca · 27/01/2025 14:43

thepariscrimefiles · 27/01/2025 14:38

Just what everyone in the UK is desperate for, a US-style health insurance system! As Trump is going to cancel the Affordable Care Act, anyone with pre-existing conditions might as well kill themselves now as they won't be eligible for health care.

The state of UK dentistry where most people can't find an NHS dentist and can't afford to pay privately is what health care would look like if we went' down the US route.

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Yeah my family have a genetic condition. It was not recognised as a genetic condition until 15 years ago and causes a range of seemingly unconnected symptoms from middle age. We would not get health insurance. Or it would have so many exclusions as to be basically worthless.

LifeExperience · 27/01/2025 14:43

Willyoujustbequiet · 27/01/2025 14:01

I'm not sure you realise how utterly ridiculous comments like this sound to the rest of the world.

Greenland is not yours to take but that aside Canada is a sovereign country and a founding member of Nato. Article 5 states that an attack on Canada would be viewed as an attack on the NATO alliance and all members would defend Canada.

I mean we all knowTrump is not the sharpest tool in the box but not even he is that stupid.

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He doesn't want Canada. He wants Canada to close their northern border. Tariffs are a negotiating tactic. Read the Art of the Deal to understand how Trump's mind works. He thinks in terms of deals. Good negotiators always start by asking for more than they really want.

I've used his tactics when buying real estate. Ask for the moon and negotiate down from that. Works like a charm.

TooBigForMyBoots · 27/01/2025 14:43

Fuck me NO!

America itself will be lucky if it survives Trump intact.

SerendipityJane · 27/01/2025 14:42

The gist of it that I remember was that it made economic sense and our laws are compatible

Utter bollocks.
We don't have a written constitution for a start which is a sine non qua

LBFseBrom · 27/01/2025 14:42

No. We've had that talk before, years ago.

Hants123 · 27/01/2025 14:41

So on the upside, we'd get lower fuel prices? Oh and would we get US size portions from McDonalds, I'm swaying.

Adelstrop · 27/01/2025 14:41

Personally, I would fight on the beaches….

saltinesandcoffeecups · 27/01/2025 14:40

CyanSeal · 27/01/2025 12:20

Depending on how Trump gets on … he doesn’t seem shy about taking over other countries. On paper it would make sense globally for the UK and the USA to become one … USA, Canada,UK - what a superpower that would be.

on top of this, there is a hell of a lot of UK support for Trump, I don’t even think the British would object to a takeover on the whole

Seems far fetched I know - but less far fetched that it did a few years ago

The Economist wrote a long “what if” article on this same premise back in the 90’s.

The gist of it that I remember was that it made economic sense and our laws are compatible

It was an interesting thought exercise

chickenlettuceunderbacon · 27/01/2025 14:39

Sorry. What now?

Step away from the glue and FOX/GB News.

😂

SerendipityJane · 27/01/2025 14:39

rewilded · 27/01/2025 14:34

I wouldn't mind the UK being the 51st state. Infact I would welcome it - where do I sign?

Just below the bit where you tell the Royal Family to fuck off, and order your choice of firearms for personal protection.

Serpentstooth · 27/01/2025 14:38

Thanks Elon but personally I'm not keen. Like about 95% of the rest of my countrymen. Maybe lay off the ket for a bit? It doesn't seem to be serving you well.

Goldenbear · 27/01/2025 14:38

SerendipityJane · 27/01/2025 14:34

Tethered bottle caps ?

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That's a good idea, what's wrong with saving the planet where we can? Why is that a dirty principle now. I refuse to lose my mind to this indoctrinating BS.

thepariscrimefiles · 27/01/2025 14:38

Thegoatliesdownonbroadway · 27/01/2025 13:29

He would sort out immigration, benefit claiming work-shy youth and reform the NHS. Also, we would be free of the Royal Family. And a biggie for Mums netters, abolish transwomen. What's not to like?

Just what everyone in the UK is desperate for, a US-style health insurance system! As Trump is going to cancel the Affordable Care Act, anyone with pre-existing conditions might as well kill themselves now as they won't be eligible for health care.

The state of UK dentistry where most people can't find an NHS dentist and can't afford to pay privately is what health care would look like if we went' down the US route.

KimberleyClark · 27/01/2025 14:36

If that happens George Orwell will be turning in his grave and saying I told you so…….

BatchCookBabe · 27/01/2025 14:35

I LOVE how the Danish told Trump to fuck off, when he suggested taking over Greenland. 😆

There was someone else who tried to invade other countries and make them his own around 85 years ago, now who WAS that?! 🤔

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