Page 14 | To think eventually, UK could become a part of the USA?

SerendipityJane · 27/01/2025 15:07

Macrodatarefiner · 27/01/2025 14:56

@serendipityjane

Why would that make it an impossibility? Obviously a transition like that would require a new constitution, a codified one. Plenty of people were calling for one when Johnson prorogued parliament. I don't get your point

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In order to join the US, you become a territory. You have to accept the US dollar and your constitution needs to be compatible with the US constitution.

Then you can petition to join and have the states vote on whether to accept you.

As I said - and I will guarantee none of the more dim posters here will have checked - this is all detailed in the US constitution itself. It actually lays out how to grow the union. It's how it went from 13 to 50 states.

I know facts are pretty unfashionable nowadays. But they are pretty much all I know.

As things stand the UK cannot "become a state". We would need to be a republic for starters. And that will take a good few decades.

snowmichael · 27/01/2025 15:06

CyanSeal · 27/01/2025 12:20

Depending on how Trump gets on … he doesn’t seem shy about taking over other countries. On paper it would make sense globally for the UK and the USA to become one … USA, Canada,UK - what a superpower that would be.

on top of this, there is a hell of a lot of UK support for Trump, I don’t even think the British would object to a takeover on the whole

Seems far fetched I know - but less far fetched that it did a few years ago

> I don’t even think the British would object to a takeover on the whole
Are you trolling, insane, drunk, or a US stooge?

Macrodatarefiner · 27/01/2025 15:04

TooBigForMyBoots · 27/01/2025 15:00

The UK. Our water companies are a disgrace. Who operates the water service where you are?

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No, not the UK. Scotland and Wales haven't

EasternStandard · 27/01/2025 15:03

Misogynist much? I am a woman, a wife and a mother. And this forum is unique. We really don't have anything like it in the US. Reddit is a cesspool.

Not sure why pp were sure you were male, women can be retired from same job surely

You attracted some deleted comments on those lines

IcedPurple · 27/01/2025 15:02

America is still the world's most powerful country and will be for the foreseeable future. However, it is a declining power which is increasingly struggling to impose its will on the rest of the world. The American empire reached its high water mark at the end of the Cold War, but is now in retreat.

Macrodatarefiner · 27/01/2025 15:01

BatchCookBabe · 27/01/2025 14:45

Move to America if you want to be American. I would jump off the planet if America took over the UK. I can't think of many things worse than being American/part of America! SHUDDER 😖

It will never happen though. As I said, the British wouldn't let in happen. No-one in their right mind would want this to happen.

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I can't think of many things worse than being American/part of America! SHUDDER 😖

Imagine saying that about any other nationality

Mrsbloggz · 27/01/2025 15:01

anyolddinosaur · 27/01/2025 14:59

Anyone who thinks there is a lot of support for Trump here is deluded.

I agree, the problem is that the 'empty vessel' trump supporting types make a lot of noise!

TooBigForMyBoots · 27/01/2025 15:00

saltinesandcoffeecups · 27/01/2025 14:56

Who has privatized water service?

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The UK. Our water companies are a disgrace. Who operates the water service where you are?

HappyNewFeckingYear · 27/01/2025 15:00

The UK is not strategically important to the US.
The average Brit, mumsnetter or not, does not want to hear this.

By the end of this term NATO will probably stand for North American Treaty Organization.

But apparently King Charles is going to pull an Empire out the back of the sofa, mount his trusty steed and lead a team of ladies to a beach.

anyolddinosaur · 27/01/2025 14:59

Anyone who thinks there is a lot of support for Trump here is deluded.

skyana · 27/01/2025 14:59

Are you seriously daft? 🤣

JoyousGreyOrca · 27/01/2025 14:58

saltinesandcoffeecups · 27/01/2025 14:56

Who has privatized water service?

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We all do in England.

LifeExperience · 27/01/2025 14:58

MermaidEyes · 27/01/2025 14:34

Good news! As a retired American military officer I say with authority that your token deployments hindered more than helped, at least in Helmand. The chain of command was a cluster fuck

Why on earth is an American military officer posting on a British forum predominately for women and parents?! Is Reddit closed today?

Misogynist much? I am a woman, a wife and a mother. And this forum is unique. We really don't have anything like it in the US. Reddit is a cesspool.

JoyousGreyOrca · 27/01/2025 14:56

TooBigForMyBoots · 27/01/2025 14:52

And the privatised water service.💩🤮

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I know! Its truly dreadful.

Macrodatarefiner · 27/01/2025 14:56

saltinesandcoffeecups · 27/01/2025 14:45

Well take it up with Economist… I didn’t write the fucking article

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@serendipityjane

Why would that make it an impossibility? Obviously a transition like that would require a new constitution, a codified one. Plenty of people were calling for one when Johnson prorogued parliament. I don't get your point

Zebedee999 · 27/01/2025 14:56

CyanSeal · 27/01/2025 12:20

Depending on how Trump gets on … he doesn’t seem shy about taking over other countries. On paper it would make sense globally for the UK and the USA to become one … USA, Canada,UK - what a superpower that would be.

on top of this, there is a hell of a lot of UK support for Trump, I don’t even think the British would object to a takeover on the whole

Seems far fetched I know - but less far fetched that it did a few years ago

OP seek help now, you have lost your marbles.

saltinesandcoffeecups · 27/01/2025 14:56

TooBigForMyBoots · 27/01/2025 14:52

And the privatised water service.💩🤮

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Who has privatized water service?

LifeExperience · 27/01/2025 14:56

EasternStandard · 27/01/2025 14:19

Trump offered the UK a free trade deal (goods not people) after Brexit and your gov't didn't take it.

I think we'd be more likely now given the circumstances. What do you think will it happen?

I think it's unlikely.

travellinglighter · 27/01/2025 14:55

BobbiJo · 27/01/2025 12:27

Don't be silly.

But .
Compared to our "Leader", I'd take Trump any day ending in Y

(ETA- Compared to our "Leader" I'd take 3 toddlers in an overcoat..)

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And That’s a how a convicted felon, adjudicated rapist and probable dementia patient in thrall to religious nutjobs, foreign powers and biliionaire tech bro’s gets elected.

TooBigForMyBoots · 27/01/2025 14:52

JoyousGreyOrca · 27/01/2025 14:48

I would also have thought the fairy tale that privatising services makes them better would have disappeared with the state of the privatised railways.

And the privatised water service.💩🤮

Giggorata · 27/01/2025 14:52

No, Britain would retake the USA and it would resume its colonial status. (joking)

(and also haven't rtft so apologies if I am repeating.)

LifeExperience · 27/01/2025 14:51

Adamante · 27/01/2025 14:05

As for the UK, no we don't want you. We're trying to reduce our commitments to Europe, not increase them. Europeans have never played well in the sandbox together and the vast majority of Americans are beyond tired of being pulled into your conflicts. Just no.

So you think Trump is looking to dump his convenient, easily defended, Island airfield, which is the perfect re-supply point before his military hit mainland Europe, ME, Asia? Good to know.

Yes, absolutely. He ran on reducing military commitments, especially commitments to NATO. You vastly overestimate your military value to us. The US can project all the power it wants without the UK. NATO is a protectorate, not a true alliance, and the American people are beyond tired of protecting you.

I'm not trying to be goady, but I spent much of my career in strategic planning and I know what I'm talking about. The UK is not strategically important to the US.

MrsSunshine2b · 27/01/2025 14:51

You think there's a lot of UK support for Trump? You need better friends and associates.

Serpentstooth · 27/01/2025 14:51

Is MN so globally influential that it's worthy of such close attention from the Trump nutters? Mums, grannies, kids. Anyone might suppose they're emotionally over-invested.

Renamed · 27/01/2025 14:49

There is not a hell of a lot of UK support for Trump, most people think he’s deranged