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To think eventually, UK could become a part of the USA?

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CyanSeal · 27/01/2025 12:20

Depending on how Trump gets on … he doesn’t seem shy about taking over other countries. On paper it would make sense globally for the UK and the USA to become one … USA, Canada,UK - what a superpower that would be.

on top of this, there is a hell of a lot of UK support for Trump, I don’t even think the British would object to a takeover on the whole

Seems far fetched I know - but less far fetched that it did a few years ago

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LifeExperience · 27/01/2025 15:26

JoyousGreyOrca · 27/01/2025 14:43

Yeah my family have a genetic condition. It was not recognised as a genetic condition until 15 years ago and causes a range of seemingly unconnected symptoms from middle age. We would not get health insurance. Or it would have so many exclusions as to be basically worthless.

By law, those with pre-existing conditions cannot be turned down for insurance. And no, Trump isn't going to gut the ACA. It needs some adjustments and that will happen, but Congress gets a say. Not gonna happen.

ForPearlViper · 27/01/2025 15:26

Renamed · 27/01/2025 14:49

There is not a hell of a lot of UK support for Trump, most people think he’s deranged

Exactly. There are people who support him who are very loud and prolific online and a few politicians that egg them on. There are some people who seem to scour the internet for opportunities to pile onto forums where there is even a breath of a mention of Trump and the views of people of his ilk (even Mumsnet).

That doesn't mean a hell of a lot of UK support for Trump.

Hermitta · 27/01/2025 15:26

And I have a FIL who is convinced that Trump will allow people with 'real' British ancestry to claim asylum to the USA in the end, to save the 'homeland' refugees.

Honestly, I'm half hoping he's right, it would solve a number of my headaches.

saltinesandcoffeecups · 27/01/2025 15:26

Hermitta · 27/01/2025 15:24

Then we would need a written constitution that aligns with the US constitution - so we'd have to unban gun sales (in fact weapons sales in general).

Totally not the point of the thread I know, but I thought some states didn't allow guns?

States can heavily restrict them. But they can’t outright ban them or it would run afoul of the constitution which would be overturned.

LoyalMember · 27/01/2025 15:25

What the absolute f are you on about? Is there an asylum missing a patient?

Hermitta · 27/01/2025 15:24

Then we would need a written constitution that aligns with the US constitution - so we'd have to unban gun sales (in fact weapons sales in general).

Totally not the point of the thread I know, but I thought some states didn't allow guns?

saltinesandcoffeecups · 27/01/2025 15:23

ilovesooty · 27/01/2025 15:19

So would I.

As a state you could have this. You’d just have to pay for it 😁

izimbra · 27/01/2025 15:23

CyanSeal · 27/01/2025 12:20

Depending on how Trump gets on … he doesn’t seem shy about taking over other countries. On paper it would make sense globally for the UK and the USA to become one … USA, Canada,UK - what a superpower that would be.

on top of this, there is a hell of a lot of UK support for Trump, I don’t even think the British would object to a takeover on the whole

Seems far fetched I know - but less far fetched that it did a few years ago

Have you been spending a lot of time on 'Trump friendly' social media recently?

In the real world, according to Statistica only 35% of Brits approve of Trump.

I suspect the people who approve of Trump are the same dimwits who also think Farage 'just talks common sense' and who voted for Reform.

Another poll said the top choices of words used by Brits to describe Trump were ‘idiot’, ‘dangerous’, ‘funny’ and ‘narcissist’.

Goldenbear · 27/01/2025 15:20

LifeExperience · 27/01/2025 15:14

Thank you for that. Do the people in the UK not drive cars? Why yes, yes they do, because they have insurance. Do they fear owning houses because they might burn down? No, they have insurance on them. Americans don't fear getting sick/injured because we have...wait for it...insurance!

Nobody has to sell their house if they get cancer. Nobody is dying in the street. FEDGOV has strict rules about what health insurance must provide. ALL health insurance policies in the US have out-of-pocket maximums. Hit the max and the insurance pays 100% of the rest. My friend has a complex cancer. His insurance has spent well over a million dollars on him with no end in sight. He has nurses in every day and gets 3 transfusions a week, all on his insurance. Another friend is on a very expensive medication for rheumatoid arthritis. Her insurance pays thousands of dollars for each shot. She pays nothing. Are there problems with American healthcare? Of course, but it's not the dystopian hellscape that MNers, most of whom have never been to the US, think. As we Americans would say, a bunch of y'all are "talkin' out yer asses."

Why is this relevant, you have made it clear that the UK is not wanted anyway and gone out of your way to belittle its worth, so you are posting to what, shout about how great America is, we already have heard all that for months now.

ilovesooty · 27/01/2025 15:19

Ddndka · 27/01/2025 14:43

I'd rather have an EU style social insurance system than the NHS

So would I.

SerendipityJane · 27/01/2025 15:17

JoyousGreyOrca · 27/01/2025 15:14

I agree. Countries tend to want rule themselves rather than be colonised.

That isn't what Britain spent 2 centuries telling India, and Africa.

SerendipityJane · 27/01/2025 15:15

Hants123 · 27/01/2025 15:12

Would we have to drive on the right hand side and get rid of all our roundabouts because that could be a bit tricky.

If becoming USAian meant Brits finally fucking learned to merge in turn, I could be persuaded.

(Still struggling to suppress the alliteration ..._)

BobbyBiscuits · 27/01/2025 15:15

No I don't think that. The USA has enough problems of its own with it's self proclaimed status as 'leader of the free world' lol to that.
Their president can barely read. He is a failed reality TV presenter.
I wouldn't think the UK would, collectively, wish to be part of another country with so many problems.
I guess Trump says he's buying Greenland and the population are delighted. So he probably thinks he's one step closer to owning our 'limey asses'. 🤣🤢

JoyousGreyOrca · 27/01/2025 15:14

user1471516498 · 27/01/2025 15:12

I imagine people would say the same about being taken over by any country.

I agree. Countries tend to want rule themselves rather than be colonised.

LifeExperience · 27/01/2025 15:14

Betchyaby · 27/01/2025 14:24

US healthcare is far superior, you just have to pay insurance. We pay higher taxes and our NHS has collapsed due to being over burdened. Waiting a month for a Drs appointment, waiting years for an operation? This doesn't happen in the US.

Thank you for that. Do the people in the UK not drive cars? Why yes, yes they do, because they have insurance. Do they fear owning houses because they might burn down? No, they have insurance on them. Americans don't fear getting sick/injured because we have...wait for it...insurance!

Nobody has to sell their house if they get cancer. Nobody is dying in the street. FEDGOV has strict rules about what health insurance must provide. ALL health insurance policies in the US have out-of-pocket maximums. Hit the max and the insurance pays 100% of the rest. My friend has a complex cancer. His insurance has spent well over a million dollars on him with no end in sight. He has nurses in every day and gets 3 transfusions a week, all on his insurance. Another friend is on a very expensive medication for rheumatoid arthritis. Her insurance pays thousands of dollars for each shot. She pays nothing. Are there problems with American healthcare? Of course, but it's not the dystopian hellscape that MNers, most of whom have never been to the US, think. As we Americans would say, a bunch of y'all are "talkin' out yer asses."

SwordToFlamethrower · 27/01/2025 15:13

HAHAHAHAHAHAHSHAHSHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

NO.

saltinesandcoffeecups · 27/01/2025 15:13

Hants123 · 27/01/2025 15:12

Would we have to drive on the right hand side and get rid of all our roundabouts because that could be a bit tricky.

Nope we have roundabouts now. And even the fancy diverging diamonds!

Hants123 · 27/01/2025 15:12

Would we have to drive on the right hand side and get rid of all our roundabouts because that could be a bit tricky.

user1471516498 · 27/01/2025 15:12

Macrodatarefiner · 27/01/2025 15:01

I can't think of many things worse than being American/part of America! SHUDDER 😖

Imagine saying that about any other nationality

I imagine people would say the same about being taken over by any country.

saltinesandcoffeecups · 27/01/2025 15:10

TooBigForMyBoots · 27/01/2025 15:00

The UK. Our water companies are a disgrace. Who operates the water service where you are?

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Most are municipally owned, there are some private ones but they are quasi entities as the fall under the utility space. Meaning they can make a profit but are governed by the state’s utilities commission that ultimately approves rates and how much profit they can make and service levels they need to meet.

it’s a bit hard to explain. For instance if a water utility wants to raise rates they have to petition for a rate hike. They then have to justify the plan to the regulatory body. So if it’s a rate hike so that shareholder get an extra big dividend it’s unlikely to pass. If it’s a rate hike to afford a new capital expenditure for new equipment or whatever it’s likely to pass. But they’ll have to put forth the business case.

The regulatory board is more or less neutral and is supposed to balance the needs of both the consumer and the utility. It mostly works out.

SerendipityJane · 27/01/2025 15:10

Might be an idea for the serious minded folks to read this:

https://www.senate.gov/civics/resources/pdf/US_Constitution-Senate_Publication_103-21.pdf

When we become UK,US our children will need to learn it.

https://www.senate.gov/civics/resources/pdf/US_Constitution-Senate_Publication_103-21.pdf

CheshireCat1 · 27/01/2025 15:08

No chance

curious79 · 27/01/2025 15:08

The only startling thing about this utterly laugh out loud post is that 4% of people think YANBU

MissConductUS · 27/01/2025 15:08

Sorry, there's no interest on this side of the pond. Your economy would be a drag on ours. We have enough problems as it is.

Usernamenope · 27/01/2025 15:08

Mrsbloggz · 27/01/2025 15:01

I agree, the problem is that the 'empty vessel' trump supporting types make a lot of noise!

Honestly, I think these posts are just paid trolls from the US. I can't take them seriously.

The next one will be 'Trump should be crowned King' or 'Give Musk a knighthood'. They exist to plant these mad ideas in public forums

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