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To think eventually, UK could become a part of the USA?

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CyanSeal · 27/01/2025 12:20

Depending on how Trump gets on … he doesn’t seem shy about taking over other countries. On paper it would make sense globally for the UK and the USA to become one … USA, Canada,UK - what a superpower that would be.

on top of this, there is a hell of a lot of UK support for Trump, I don’t even think the British would object to a takeover on the whole

Seems far fetched I know - but less far fetched that it did a few years ago

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saltinesandcoffeecups · 27/01/2025 15:57

Can we pick and choose citizens when the US does our British Empire impersonation and takes over the UK?

I’m going to vote no on @Crazybaby123 she doesn’t seem like a good fit. 😜

cardibach · 27/01/2025 15:57

Adamante · 27/01/2025 13:49

Please stop referring to my social circle in that snarky way because it implies that I am existing in this isolated little RL RW echo chamber of like minded, enforcing friends, and thus my opinions cannot hold much value. I don’t really have a “social circle” for various reasons but I do come across many people in the course of my job and part of it is building friendly and comfortable relationships with people so they’ll trust me and accept my help/services, and that is where I am getting my information from 😊. Thanks.

Nothing snarky. Looking at the figures from the poll, the people you meet socially and professionally are unusual if they all like Trump. That’s just maths.

LizzieW1969 · 27/01/2025 15:56

Willyoujustbequiet · 27/01/2025 14:01

I'm not sure you realise how utterly ridiculous comments like this sound to the rest of the world.

Greenland is not yours to take but that aside Canada is a sovereign country and a founding member of Nato. Article 5 states that an attack on Canada would be viewed as an attack on the NATO alliance and all members would defend Canada.

I mean we all knowTrump is not the sharpest tool in the box but not even he is that stupid.

Canada is also a member of the Commonwealth, with the King as the head of state. They would never consent to become the 51st state of the US.

trivialMorning · 27/01/2025 15:56

saltinesandcoffeecups · 27/01/2025 15:45

A. I don’t live in the UK
B. I was asking whose water is private, not who has privatized the water companies
C. According to others it’s not all of the UK

80s there were sold off in England idea being private investment money would upgrade.

I was surprised moving to wales to find Welsh water a non profit company - we've found them good. I don't know what N.I or Scotland have done.

Water is unlike electric and gas companies in UK you can't change who the supplier so water companies are regional monopolies.

Water companies tend to hit the news cycle when they have problems - often due to lack of investment - when the are hose pipe bans in hot weather and when the regulator deals with companies wanting to put the bills up.

Tap water in the UK is drinkable and very safe unlike in large areas of the USA.

Some people do have private bores holes /wells.springs is the UK - they tend to be less common.

Goldenbear · 27/01/2025 15:55

LifeExperience · 27/01/2025 15:49

Shall we discuss politicians the UK has voted for? Liz Truss? Bojo? The problem with political power is that the worst people want it.

So you don't believe that any politician acts with integrity?

Crazybaby123 · 27/01/2025 15:54

God no thanks. Have you read the US's terrible employment and maternity/paternity laws. Have you actually been to Miami and seen the poverty and deprivation and drug issues. Have you read about the problem with gun violence. Have you understood the US constitution. Do you worry about the abortion laws and what that means for womens rights. Do you understand the racial issues in the US. Do you even know that the US and UK are built on entirely differrnt governmental and legal systems and the two are not interchangable. Please educate yourself before you promote this insanity. I am sure trump and Elon would love to 'buy' the UK, if you want to understand what an oligarch looks like then just look at Russia.please research all the above points in detail and then update us in a year in your views.

SerendipityJane · 27/01/2025 15:53

LifeExperience · 27/01/2025 15:49

Shall we discuss politicians the UK has voted for? Liz Truss? Bojo? The problem with political power is that the worst people want it.

Just to be clear, Liz Truss - and Rishi Sunak - became PM without being elected by the public as the leader of their party.

The unwritten British Constitution allows this, but maybe shouldn't.

However, let's talk about President Ford. Who became President without being elected President or Vice President as he replaced that other presidential crook, Nixon.

FarmGirl78 · 27/01/2025 15:53

What planet are you on to think there's a lot of support here from Donold Trump? And moreso that no-one would object?

Give over you dafty! You really need to open up from whatever circles you're mixing in.

Goldenbear · 27/01/2025 15:51

LifeExperience · 27/01/2025 15:49

Shall we discuss politicians the UK has voted for? Liz Truss? Bojo? The problem with political power is that the worst people want it.

We didn't vote for Liz Truss as PM.

SerendipityJane · 27/01/2025 15:50

Greenland will have a choice, as they should.

Is it "choice" with a gun at your head ? remember this is a site where the vast majority are very aware of issues around consent.

Goldenbear · 27/01/2025 15:50

LifeExperience · 27/01/2025 15:41

I responded to a post. It's what we do here.

Yes and I'm responding to yours as your take on it is defensiveness whereas actually you wouldn't take to kindly to being told to relinquish your nationality, your cultural identity would you?

LifeExperience · 27/01/2025 15:49

HelpMeGetThrough · 27/01/2025 15:41

But we Americans aren't stupid.

Oh come on, you lot voted him in twice.

Even a comedian would find that hard to make it fucking funnier than it already is.

Shall we discuss politicians the UK has voted for? Liz Truss? Bojo? The problem with political power is that the worst people want it.

SerendipityJane · 27/01/2025 15:48

AlteredStater · 27/01/2025 15:46

What about the issue that countries like Russia and China to name but two may begin to feel threatened by an America that is absorbing other countries like Canada, Greenland and the UK, and thus is increasing its reach and power?

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Pot, kettle

LifeExperience · 27/01/2025 15:47

Goldenbear · 27/01/2025 15:38

The thing is plenty of people would say that they wouldn't want to change their nationality in the scenario the OP is describing, I mean how many Canadians are saying it? Would Americans want to be British in that forced scenerio, of course they wouldn't!

The US isn't going to invade Canada. Or Greenland. And of course we wouldn't want to be forced to be British. Nobody is forcing anyone to do anything. Greenland will have a choice, as they should. But already overtures are being made and young Greenlanders, especially, love the idea of being able to freely travel to the US, get jobs, go to uni, etc. Also, none of our territories pay taxes to the federal gov't, so it's a great deal for them. All of the benefits of statehood without the taxes.

EasternStandard · 27/01/2025 15:47

@MissConductUS it's even more pronounced on mn. The US will withdraw funding and we'll find stuff harder, the US won't

It's odd to see as the U.K. has far less clout and pretty much bends to the US

SerendipityJane · 27/01/2025 15:47

Hermitta · 27/01/2025 15:31

Ah ok, Google is misleading then.

As of 2024, 22 U.S. states required background checks and/or permits for the purchase of a handgun. A further 13 states had regulations on openly carrying firearms in public, however, only California, Connecticut, Florida, and Illinois had completely prohibited open carry for all firearms.

Not really. There are of course nuances.

Several states have laws (just) on concealed carry. But that isn't "banning" guns by any stretch of the imagination.

And in TX it seemed it was the law you had to carry a gun 😀

thepariscrimefiles · 27/01/2025 15:47

LifeExperience · 27/01/2025 15:14

Thank you for that. Do the people in the UK not drive cars? Why yes, yes they do, because they have insurance. Do they fear owning houses because they might burn down? No, they have insurance on them. Americans don't fear getting sick/injured because we have...wait for it...insurance!

Nobody has to sell their house if they get cancer. Nobody is dying in the street. FEDGOV has strict rules about what health insurance must provide. ALL health insurance policies in the US have out-of-pocket maximums. Hit the max and the insurance pays 100% of the rest. My friend has a complex cancer. His insurance has spent well over a million dollars on him with no end in sight. He has nurses in every day and gets 3 transfusions a week, all on his insurance. Another friend is on a very expensive medication for rheumatoid arthritis. Her insurance pays thousands of dollars for each shot. She pays nothing. Are there problems with American healthcare? Of course, but it's not the dystopian hellscape that MNers, most of whom have never been to the US, think. As we Americans would say, a bunch of y'all are "talkin' out yer asses."

The US always come miles below the UK in world rankings of healthcare systems.

'According to the 2024 Mirror, Mirror report, Australia, the Netherlands, and the United Kingdom have the best healthcare systems, though the differences in overall performance among most countries are relatively small. In stark contrast, the United States ranks last, with its healthcare system performing dramatically lower than the others.'

AlteredStater · 27/01/2025 15:46

What about the issue that countries like Russia and China to name but two may begin to feel threatened by an America that is absorbing other countries like Canada, Greenland and the UK, and thus is increasing its reach and power?

TinklySnail · 27/01/2025 15:45

HelpMeGetThrough · 27/01/2025 15:41

But we Americans aren't stupid.

Oh come on, you lot voted him in twice.

Even a comedian would find that hard to make it fucking funnier than it already is.

Wow such nastiness. Why?

saltinesandcoffeecups · 27/01/2025 15:45

BIossomtoes · 27/01/2025 15:38

Thatcher did. In the 1980s. As you’d know if you lived in the UK.

A. I don’t live in the UK
B. I was asking whose water is private, not who has privatized the water companies
C. According to others it’s not all of the UK

Choccyscofffy · 27/01/2025 15:44

LifeExperience · 27/01/2025 15:35

Exactly. Anti-American hatred and misinformation is allowed to run rampant on here. Doesn't bother me or I wouldn't be here. But we Americans aren't stupid. We know what you think of us and we're sick of protecting people who hate us.

It’s not protection, it’s a racket. Start wars to plunder other countries resources and then act like the world’s policeman.

US and UK are flip sides of the same corrupt coin.

Applesonthelawn · 27/01/2025 15:44

I'm not sure why this is all that unreasonable. We became part of Europe, and then weren't again, so what's the difference? There's already intelligence cooperation with the anglosphere, five eyes.

I don't think he could "buy" a country (although the US bought the US Virgin Islands from Denmark, so it's not without precedent), but we could certainly be "as good as" in the same way Germany, France etc are in a union with Europe. Culturally I think it's a better match in some ways than Europe.
I don't think it will happen but I didn't think we'd leave Europe either.

derxa · 27/01/2025 15:44

LuluBlakey1 · 27/01/2025 15:36

Private Eye front page

Not really very funny. DH has just cancelled his subscription to this lame rag.

Serpentstooth · 27/01/2025 15:44

Excellent summary of Trump character from Nate White, above. Well observed, Mr White.

Garlicnorth · 27/01/2025 15:43

PandoraSox · 27/01/2025 12:22

Is it April 1st already?

It must be - this month has already been 90 days long.

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