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Does Trump just say whatever comes into his head?

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BarbaraVineFan · 26/01/2025 20:38

I'm only partly joking. Does Trump script his speeches with the aid of an adviser, or do you think he is just winging it the whole time? I mean, SURELY there can't be anyone in his office who is telling him it's a good idea to suggest renaming the Gulf of Mexico, or to get Palestinian refugees rehomed in Egypt and Jordan as if they were fucking rescue pets? Surely there must be someone in there with even an ounce of intelligence and political nous? AIBU to think he must be either going off-script? It's almost satirical

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Wallaw · 27/01/2025 23:28

user1471516498 · 27/01/2025 23:15

I have read it. He calls it a "love letter to hillbillies", but then proceeds to bitch about hillbillies for the rest of the book, calling them lazy, feckless and irresponsible. Apart from him, of course.

I mentioned this earlier, but it's well worth listening to - so funny

https://pod.link/1651876897/episode/93f93793e3d115b28d5e35b364b33c2b

If Books Could Kill

If Books Could Kill

The airport bestsellers that captured our hearts and ruined our minds

https://pod.link/1651876897/episode/93f93793e3d115b28d5e35b364b33c2b

user1471516498 · 27/01/2025 23:15

SnarkSideOfLife · 27/01/2025 09:14

Yes he’s written a book called Hillbilly Elergy which is meant to be good. He also studied law at Yale so he must be bright especially considering his background

I have read it. He calls it a "love letter to hillbillies", but then proceeds to bitch about hillbillies for the rest of the book, calling them lazy, feckless and irresponsible. Apart from him, of course.

MrsSkylerWhite · 27/01/2025 22:51

@Elissaisnotmyname
I recently watched a film about Vance’s life story, he comes from a very humble background and his family were hillbillies.

You don’t say …..,

thepariscrimefiles · 27/01/2025 22:35

willquestionwith · 26/01/2025 21:33

Starmer isn't much better ! Trump is at least funny to listen to and look at. Starmers face and pout he does argh can't look at him I hate his face

Oh yes, it was really funny when he mimicked the disabled journalist with cerebral palsy. He's a cunt.

Gerbilboy · 27/01/2025 22:18

missdeamenor · 27/01/2025 05:34

Palestinians are very radicalised and the Egyptian leader has said they could wreck peace in the region.

Jordan’s King Abdullah II gave a similar message a day earlier, saying, “No refugees in Jordan, no refugees in Egypt.”

I used to wonder why no other Arab nation had come to the rescue, instead they actually closed borders. I feel for ordinary Palestinians who are still ruled by Hamas.

Gosh I wonder why the Palestinians are radicalised???

maudelovesharold · 27/01/2025 22:17

RedRosesParmaViolets · 27/01/2025 22:06

The comments about Palestinian are interesting.. At the time I thought he meant because it's such a terrible mass of rubble and destruction, it would be easier to rebuild it with no one there?.
Then I thought in a day dream imagine if someone dud rebuild it "beautifully" and the Palestinians could go back to a very beautiful high end type of place... But of course with their consultation and in put and so on. But it may weaken the grip of hammas to say look stunning housing, schools and hospital and so on.
I know it's a pipe dream but I thought what an amazing result that could be for them after all they have been through

Sadly, if Gaza ever gets rebuilt beautifully, it won’t be done for the benefit of the Palestinians…

user1471516498 · 27/01/2025 22:12

Given that our PM reads off an autocue like a robot, while looking like he is being held at gunpoint, we can hardly talk!

RedRosesParmaViolets · 27/01/2025 22:06

The comments about Palestinian are interesting.. At the time I thought he meant because it's such a terrible mass of rubble and destruction, it would be easier to rebuild it with no one there?.
Then I thought in a day dream imagine if someone dud rebuild it "beautifully" and the Palestinians could go back to a very beautiful high end type of place... But of course with their consultation and in put and so on. But it may weaken the grip of hammas to say look stunning housing, schools and hospital and so on.
I know it's a pipe dream but I thought what an amazing result that could be for them after all they have been through

MeTooOverHere · 27/01/2025 22:00

TheBoysAndTheBallet · 26/01/2025 21:18

Absolutely he does. I'm old enough to remember when George "Dubya" Bush was president and said some weird stuff. He was like Winston Churchill compared to this guy.

Me too. Dubya couldn't spell and didn't know much about well geography or history or politics. But he would be a conquering hero if he turned up today.

BananaNirvana · 27/01/2025 21:54

abracadabra1980 · 27/01/2025 21:27

I agree with you on this.

But that’s not what he’s doing 🙄. He’s not asking them he’s telling them - he wants them gone. This is not an act of charity. Jesus, can people not see this man for who he is?? Astounding 😬😩🤬

abracadabra1980 · 27/01/2025 21:27

Briannaco · 26/01/2025 21:46

I think he's completely right about moving the Palestinians out of a war torn area.

Not force them out. But give them an option to safely move somewhere else if they want to.

When ukraine was attacked by Russia, Ukrainians were given safe ways to leave and be a refugee in other countries.

I agree with you on this.

maudelovesharold · 27/01/2025 10:35

In the article that I read, trump said that he wanted to get the Palestinians out of gaza for their own safety, as Gaza is such a dangerous wartorn area at the moment.

OMG, lightbulb moment! Of course! I get it now…Moving the Palestinians out of Gaza is all for their own good. How could I have been so blind? Hmm

Wallaw · 27/01/2025 10:34

Deetelves · 27/01/2025 10:27

Having spent a lot of time in the Appalachians, I am aware there are many, many ordinary, hardworking people and successful people getting in with their lives, supporting their communities. To hear JD tell it, he’s the only one from Ohio who even got to college…

@Deetelves

I don't know if you've heard this, but it's an absolutely hysterically funny breakdown of Hillbilly Elegy
https://pod.link/1651876897/episode/93f93793e3d115b28d5e35b364b33c2b

Deetelves · 27/01/2025 10:27

Having spent a lot of time in the Appalachians, I am aware there are many, many ordinary, hardworking people and successful people getting in with their lives, supporting their communities. To hear JD tell it, he’s the only one from Ohio who even got to college…

Deetelves · 27/01/2025 10:25

‘The book, Hillbilly Elegy is largely true, with plenty of shadings at Vance's convenience. Interestingly, Vance is actually a beneficiary of plenty of the DEI programmes (in his case rural poverty) he so loathes.’

I’ve read the book. The ‘true’ bit? Mmm. Well it’s his story to tell, plucky little middleclass boy with an addict mother rises above all the lazy, shit, addicted people of the Appalachians to be a success. a diamond out of millions of lumps of coal - to hear JD tell it.

He did benefit from all the DEI programs, but like many insecure people who’ve been successful, the first thing he wants to do is pull up the ladder behind him to make himself seem all the more speshal.

MermaidEyes · 27/01/2025 09:51

The Gulf of America nonsense just goes to show the deep rooted insecurities in the whole fucking nation. All the USA USA! Stuff

Decades ago, the USA was the land everyone wanted to live in, the All American Dream, the President was the most important man in the world. People watched the movies and read the books and thought what a wonderful idyllic place the US is.
Now, in the last 20 years or so, with the advent of the internet, social media and accessible travel, the world is realising that actually, the US is really no better than anywhere else. They have shedloads of poverty, deprivation, crime, drug addictions, illegal immigrants, just like the rest of us. It's no longer somewhere to aspire to live and work for many people. Americans, for the most part, just can't accept the reality that their country isn't the American Dream for the rest of the world it once was.

Wallaw · 27/01/2025 09:30

Deetelves · 27/01/2025 09:21

The Gulf of America nonsense just goes to show the deep rooted insecurities in the whole fucking nation. All the USA USA! Stuff.

re-naming things after yourself or your country and threatening OTHER countries with takeover is straight from the dictator handbook. Not sure why Trump thinks the rest of the world are going to sit by while he threatens Greenland or anywhere else.
He’s absolutely fucking crackers. He’s also OLD which I imagine why he doesn’t give a damn about climate change or the future of the planet.

The Gulf of America nonsense just goes to show the deep rooted insecurities in the whole fucking nation.

No. It shows the deep rooted insecurities of 49.7% of the roughly 59% of the vote eligible population that turned out in 2024.

It's no more representative of an entire nation than Brexit was of the UK.

Deetelves · 27/01/2025 09:21

RedHelenB · 27/01/2025 07:08

That's true The vast country, all the Anerican dream guff and they can't come up with a better President.

The Gulf of America nonsense just goes to show the deep rooted insecurities in the whole fucking nation. All the USA USA! Stuff.

re-naming things after yourself or your country and threatening OTHER countries with takeover is straight from the dictator handbook. Not sure why Trump thinks the rest of the world are going to sit by while he threatens Greenland or anywhere else.
He’s absolutely fucking crackers. He’s also OLD which I imagine why he doesn’t give a damn about climate change or the future of the planet.

SinnerBoy · 27/01/2025 09:17

BooToYouHalloween · Yesterday 20:42

Most Palestinians are originally from Egypt and Jordan so his statement actually has some historical context.

That's an oft repeated lie, most of the Palestinians are indigenous and those who aren't are from the border regions and part of the same ethnic group.

Wallaw · 27/01/2025 09:15

Deetelves · 27/01/2025 08:24

What an utterly bizarre comment. 😅 sorry if I offended a fan of the dolphin porn obsessed ( look it up) birth rate obsessed, immigrants munching on the pets obsessed, short arsed weirdo with a knack for saying the wrong thing ALL the time that is JD Vance
It really is just an opinion. Plenty of far right extremists think he really is the cats PJs…

There's actually quite a lot of information about this, but as usual, if you're down a right wing information rabbit hole, you're not getting it. A Hollywood movie of an autobiography isn't much to judge on. The book, Hillbilly Elegy is largely true, with plenty of shadings at Vance's convenience. Interestingly, Vance is actually a beneficiary of plenty of the DEI programmes (in his case rural poverty) he so loathes.
https://time.com/7002807/jd-vance-bootstrapped-myth/

His political views have done a rapid 180 since being bought a senate seat by Peter Thiel and becoming radicalised by Curtis Yarvin, among others.
https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2024/07/18/jd-vance-world-view-sources-00168984

The Myth that J.D. Vance Bootstrapped His Way to the Top

It’s time to question what J.D. Vance can actually do for working class Americans, writes Bobi Conn.

https://time.com/7002807/jd-vance-bootstrapped-myth

SnarkSideOfLife · 27/01/2025 09:14

Elissaisnotmyname · 27/01/2025 07:11

I recently watched a film about Vance’s life story, he comes from a very humble background and his family were hillbillies

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Yes he’s written a book called Hillbilly Elergy which is meant to be good. He also studied law at Yale so he must be bright especially considering his background

Gallowayan · 27/01/2025 08:47

Yes he does. Along with Liz Truss, he is living proof that the world is not a meritocracy

AwardGiselePelicotTheNobelPeacePrize · 27/01/2025 08:42

UnhappyAndYouKnowIt · 27/01/2025 08:23

Maybe the more important question should be; why doesn't Columbia want it's own citizens back?
What have these Columbian's done which makes them undesirable by their own government.

I'm guessing they are criminals, thugs, troublemakers which their country don't want to deal with and were hoping the US would just allow non-vetted illegal migrants to remain.

He wasn't saying that he didn't want them back, he was complaining about the manner in which it was done. He said that they were Colombian citizens and should be treated with dignity, and sent the presidential plane to assist with bringing home deportees. He later issued a statement saying that their borders are open to anyone who wants to come.

My hot take is if you don't know how to spell the name of a country, your opinion on it can be safely disregarded

Deetelves · 27/01/2025 08:24

Adamante · 27/01/2025 08:14

Hmm, you’d think the Dems would have used all that to completely discredit him when he was nominated for VPOTUS. If only they’d known to come to MN and speak to you 🤷🏼‍♀️

What an utterly bizarre comment. 😅 sorry if I offended a fan of the dolphin porn obsessed ( look it up) birth rate obsessed, immigrants munching on the pets obsessed, short arsed weirdo with a knack for saying the wrong thing ALL the time that is JD Vance
It really is just an opinion. Plenty of far right extremists think he really is the cats PJs…

UnhappyAndYouKnowIt · 27/01/2025 08:23

Maybe the more important question should be; why doesn't Columbia want it's own citizens back?
What have these Columbian's done which makes them undesirable by their own government.

I'm guessing they are criminals, thugs, troublemakers which their country don't want to deal with and were hoping the US would just allow non-vetted illegal migrants to remain.

He wasn't saying that he didn't want them back, he was complaining about the manner in which it was done. He said that they were Colombian citizens and should be treated with dignity, and sent the presidential plane to assist with bringing home deportees. He later issued a statement saying that their borders are open to anyone who wants to come.