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To not be fussed about shaven legs and swimming

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ArchesOfWisteria · 26/01/2025 15:32

In my mid 40s I have lost the urge to remove body hair much, particularly in winter. If anything I find it’s better for my skin, no rashes or bumps under my arms, less sweating under my arms. Easier with sensitive skin.

I kind of presumed that no one cares that much- I certainly don’t care if other people have a preference to wax completely or not shave at all.

I went swimming with an acquaintance and she seemed shocked, a bit horrified even, at my legs. I stated I am comfortable, made a light joke my husband is supportive. But she brought it up again like it’s a big deal. ‘Especially as you are so fair skinned with black hair’ was her last comment (I am, not particularly super hair, average but with black hair).

Are other women actually bothered about shaving when it comes to others? Do you notice? I don’t in the pool! Obviously we all have our personal preferences for our own bodies, but does this for extend to being in anyway affronted by what another woman does. She stated hers is the typical view, but I may have more ‘European’ standards.

For context, if anyone askes, I’m quite average in most ways. Healthy weight, clean hair and clothing etc.

yanbu- I’m not really that bothered about what others do, as long as I can exercise my own personal freedom without comment

yabu- I think it’s a bit yucky on others and I do judge natural body hair in the pool

OP posts:
Differentstarts · 26/01/2025 18:02

Anonycat · 26/01/2025 17:59

But it’s not a question of safety, like wearing a seat belt, is it. If you know it’s not at all important and it’s just something you do because it’s an unthinking part of your routine, why would you be shocked if someone else didn’t do it, or mention it to them, as you said you would?

Edited

Well you think of an example of something you just do on a regular basis without thinking about it I would only be shocked if one of my close friends suddenly stopped shaving as they always have

KimberleyClark · 26/01/2025 18:00

Differentstarts · 26/01/2025 17:55

You don't understand because your taking what I said wrongly iv said it repeatedly I used brushing your teeth and flushing the loo as examples I do without thinking just like shaving it's just part of my routine for me. Would people understand better if I said putting a seat belt on its not something I put thought in to I just do it

Again, seat belts have a purpose. Shaving your legs has no purpose other than conforming to external beauty standards,

Anonycat · 26/01/2025 17:59

Differentstarts · 26/01/2025 17:55

You don't understand because your taking what I said wrongly iv said it repeatedly I used brushing your teeth and flushing the loo as examples I do without thinking just like shaving it's just part of my routine for me. Would people understand better if I said putting a seat belt on its not something I put thought in to I just do it

But it’s not a question of safety, like wearing a seat belt, is it. If you know it’s not at all important and it’s just something you do because it’s an unthinking part of your routine, why would you be shocked if someone else didn’t do it, or mention it to them, as you said you would?

RawBloomers · 26/01/2025 17:59

Printedword · 26/01/2025 17:57

Also, this raises the assumption that shaving every day or more than once a week or so is healthy. It's really not. I'm all for personal preference but every day is unhealthy.

How is it unhealthy?

Lemonyyy · 26/01/2025 17:58

No, fuck that. I don’t bother if I don’t want to. Your friend was incredibly rude - she can shave if she wants to but it’s literally nothing to do with her if you shave or not.

Printedword · 26/01/2025 17:57

Anonycat · 26/01/2025 17:51

I really don’t understand that. Brushing your teeth and flushing the toilet are done for hygiene reasons and to be respectful to other people who don’t want to have to smell your foul breath or your urine/faeces. In what way does hair growing on your legs affect anyone else more than hair growing on your head?

What a shame you have been brainwashed to be ashamed of something that men never think twice about. The fashion for women to feel they need hairless bodies like prepubescent children is very creepy, imo.

Also, this raises the assumption that shaving every day or more than once a week or so is healthy. It's really not. I'm all for personal preference but every day is unhealthy.

YiayiaP · 26/01/2025 17:56

I no longer give two shits about this sort of thing I have body hair (in places it shouldn’t be - lockdown was a revelation!!); go out (even out/out) with no makeup; air dry my wild wavy hair… I’m comfortable with that and often get told I don’t look my age. I NEVER judge anyone on their choices, so don’t expect to be judged on mine xx

Emonade · 26/01/2025 17:55

I take baby swimming every Friday to a class and sometimes I don’t shave my legs and I generally never shave my armpits, sometimes I feel self conscious but no one even looks, shes obviously just insecure.

Differentstarts · 26/01/2025 17:55

Anonycat · 26/01/2025 17:51

I really don’t understand that. Brushing your teeth and flushing the toilet are done for hygiene reasons and to be respectful to other people who don’t want to have to smell your foul breath or your urine/faeces. In what way does hair growing on your legs affect anyone else more than hair growing on your head?

What a shame you have been brainwashed to be ashamed of something that men never think twice about. The fashion for women to feel they need hairless bodies like prepubescent children is very creepy, imo.

You don't understand because your taking what I said wrongly iv said it repeatedly I used brushing your teeth and flushing the loo as examples I do without thinking just like shaving it's just part of my routine for me. Would people understand better if I said putting a seat belt on its not something I put thought in to I just do it

Taigabread · 26/01/2025 17:54

Differentstarts · 26/01/2025 17:40

And I have repeatedly said i see it as normal everyday things you do without thinking like flushing the toilet, brushing your teeth I don't know how many times I have to say this. Do you honestly think after reading my comments on this thread that I would have a problem with saying it's a hygiene thing if I thought it was a hygiene thing I would just say that 🤔

Funny that you picked 2 'normal everyday things' that are very much about hygiene and sanitation. You didn't pick having a morning cuppa, or opening the bedroom curtains....

Printedword · 26/01/2025 17:53

Barleysugar86 · 26/01/2025 17:48

I've changed over from traditional swimming costumes to something like this- https://seafancy.co.uk/product/floral-scoop-neck-wide-straps-tummy-control-one-piece-swimsuit?gad_source=1&gclid=Cj0KCQiA19e8BhCVARIsALpFMgFX5TK6H_4bJ0CGU_fHsPxo1CBAHUYB0PW32IJEDdhUvK89t5a8RwoaAq9KEALw_wcB it's been amazing having shorts covering my bum area. i feel so much more comfortable and nothing moves around on the slides. I'm not going back!

As a surfer, I've worn shorts - mostly jammer length - for years. It's not about modesty, it's little about practicality, it's a lot about comfort. I don't have body hang ups, in fact, I take any padding out of my tankini or bikini tops and don't wear padded bras.

theriseandfallofFranklinSaint · 26/01/2025 17:53

I don't think MN is the usual dynamic when it comes to shaving. Many on here trip over themselves to say they never shave anything, they love it and their husband really does'nt care.

This is not the case with anyone I know.

KimberleyClark · 26/01/2025 17:53

Differentstarts · 26/01/2025 16:24

Sorry im going to be that person i wouldn't do it and I would say something to the person I'm with, purely because I'd be quite shocked but shaving to me is like brushing your teeth or flushing the toilet it's just something you do

Edited

wtf? You think it’s dirty not to shave your legs?

Anonycat · 26/01/2025 17:51

Differentstarts · 26/01/2025 16:24

Sorry im going to be that person i wouldn't do it and I would say something to the person I'm with, purely because I'd be quite shocked but shaving to me is like brushing your teeth or flushing the toilet it's just something you do

Edited

I really don’t understand that. Brushing your teeth and flushing the toilet are done for hygiene reasons and to be respectful to other people who don’t want to have to smell your foul breath or your urine/faeces. In what way does hair growing on your legs affect anyone else more than hair growing on your head?

What a shame you have been brainwashed to be ashamed of something that men never think twice about. The fashion for women to feel they need hairless bodies like prepubescent children is very creepy, imo.

user2848502016 · 26/01/2025 17:51

I think do whatever makes you comfortable. I'm very lucky to have blonde leg hair so I am definitely guilty of going for a swim with hairy legs especially when DC were small and I was short in time!
I hardly ever shave them over the winter

HipToTheHopDontStop · 26/01/2025 17:49

Differentstarts · 26/01/2025 17:47

I don't have a problem with others not shaving I haven't said i did. I said I do and that I would say something to a close friend if they didn't as this is how me and my friends talk. Iv not said once in this whole thread that not shaving is an issue others have created that story in their own heads

Why remark on it if you don't have a problem with it? It doesn't sound like you'd be making a positive comment....

GreenLeaf25 · 26/01/2025 17:49

@HipToTheHopDontStop I think you're right!

Differentstarts · 26/01/2025 17:49

ANameForOscar · 26/01/2025 17:46

Thinking doesn't hurt. It's fun to question things we automatically do sometimes, and learn about why we do them.

(This does occasionally lead to me coming out with some very odd questions or thoughts... sometimes mid conversation!)

I know why I'm always clean shaven I don't need to question it.

take10yearsofmylife · 26/01/2025 17:48

I have dark hair, I dont shave even with my sleeveless tops and shorts, husband find no issue. I would encourage people to normalise our normal / natural bodies, I am too lazy to shave. 😊

Barleysugar86 · 26/01/2025 17:48

Changingname1988 · 26/01/2025 16:00

I’ve never heard of/seen swimming leggings before, but they sound amazing! I hate having to rearrange myself in my swimming cossie to get out the pool etc. Off to Google…

I've changed over from traditional swimming costumes to something like this- https://seafancy.co.uk/product/floral-scoop-neck-wide-straps-tummy-control-one-piece-swimsuit?gad_source=1&gclid=Cj0KCQiA19e8BhCVARIsALpFMgFX5TK6H_4bJ0CGU_fHsPxo1CBAHUYB0PW32IJEDdhUvK89t5a8RwoaAq9KEALw_wcB it's been amazing having shorts covering my bum area. i feel so much more comfortable and nothing moves around on the slides. I'm not going back!

Blue Floral Tummy Control Elegant One-Piece Swimsuit

Blue Floral Tummy Control Elegant One-Piece Swimsuit

https://seafancy.co.uk/product/floral-scoop-neck-wide-straps-tummy-control-one-piece-swimsuit?gad_source=1&gclid=Cj0KCQiA19e8BhCVARIsALpFMgFX5TK6H_4bJ0CGU_fHsPxo1CBAHUYB0PW32IJEDdhUvK89t5a8RwoaAq9KEALw_wcB

Differentstarts · 26/01/2025 17:47

godmum56 · 26/01/2025 17:43

after reading your batshit comments I have no idea what you would have a problem with?

I don't have a problem with others not shaving I haven't said i did. I said I do and that I would say something to a close friend if they didn't as this is how me and my friends talk. Iv not said once in this whole thread that not shaving is an issue others have created that story in their own heads

adviceneeded1990 · 26/01/2025 17:47

Love swimming and go a couple of times a week, don’t think I’ve ever noticed what anyone else has done body hair wise! I’m religious about armpit shaving as I hate the feel, quite lax with legs especially in winter. No one has ever mentioned it to me!

ANameForOscar · 26/01/2025 17:46

Differentstarts · 26/01/2025 17:42

I didn't say it wasn't I said for me it's part of my routine that I do naturally without thinking

Thinking doesn't hurt. It's fun to question things we automatically do sometimes, and learn about why we do them.

(This does occasionally lead to me coming out with some very odd questions or thoughts... sometimes mid conversation!)

Differentstarts · 26/01/2025 17:45

batt3nb3rg · 26/01/2025 17:42

We are the same in the standards of hygiene and presentability that is expected for us to be in society. We must have clean bodies, clean clothes, clean teeth (or at least no bad breath). The only thing that women have to do to maintain acceptable hygiene and presentability that men do not is to appropriately manage their menstruation. Men, on the other hand, may need to bathe more frequently to manage their body odor. Carrying a handbag and wearing high heels and makeup are not things that you need to do to maintain your hygiene or presentability as a woman, I am in no way a tomboy, I exclusively wear dresses and have tailbone length hair and consider myself very feminine, and I have never worn makeup, and aside from a brief foray into shaving due to social pressure due to having to change in front of others for P.E, my body hair has been in its natural state.

Maybe this is a generational difference as I am 23 and my husband is 26, but attitudes to body hair in my social group are very neutral.

I'm 24 so definitely not generational as everyone i know shaves under the age of 60 but maybe more an area thing

Printedword · 26/01/2025 17:43

So, back in the day/up until approx 1990s majority of women only shaved legs and armpits plus occasional trim or bikini wearing prep shave. It would never have occurred to me to shave in the winter months unless there was an event where a sleeveless garment needed wearing or I had very hairy legs and swam regularly.

My mum had very dark brown hair and made me promise I'd only shave my legs if they became really hairy. They didn't and I'm now 60+ and have never shaved them.

The whole hairless ness thing must be over and done with at some point. It's surely not a thing a woman does to please themselves. How can it be? It's not beneficial to health or emotional well-being based on anything motivated by female desire.