To think that wolf whistling wasn't such a bad thing?

What makes you think women aren't taking these precautions?

Is it because they are saying they don't want to be wolf whistled at.

Surely saying they don't want to be harrased is precaution number 1.

Probably, men do get emboldened when they think they are anonomous and will have no consequences.

Thinking about I stopped getting wolf whistled at maybe age 20/21 (after having a good 10 years of it being a regular occurrence) when I looked my absolute peak best - is it because times had changed or is it because it’s something that largely happens to school girls ?

Are you gonna give us a magical age OP where girls go from being victims to being someone who should appreciate the compliment?

You say it’s not 11 - so is it 12??

It's difficult to say if male behaviour has improved because I'm not a teenage girl/20 something any more.

Oh yes it was fantastic being wolf whistled as a 14yo child by fully grown men 🙄

I don't want to 'educate' women to 'look after themselves'. I want to educate men not to do it. I am sure men can manage not to wolf whistle without having an attack of the vapours because it's not deemed appropriate.

That's the problem, right there. All the 'education' was aimed at women. How to avoid it, what not to wear to reduce it happening, how not to be 'oversensitive' when it did happen.

Apparently, men and boys are so fragile, they fall apart at any suggestion that they could see a woman walk past and just, you know, ignore her.

Creepy weirdos are scared to look at women because they know they have nefarious thoughts and intentions. Luckily I know mostly good men but if any said “I can’t even LOOK at women these days” I’d avoid him like the plague as I’d assume he was doing something far more than looking if he’s so worried

Also, women and girls walking to school or down the street or in the supermarket or at work aren’t at a fucking disco, they don’t want to be leered at

Haha I think you missed the point of that post completely

I can't tell if you are taking the piss, I really can't.

So, you've gone from wolf whistling is a compliment, to women are responsible for protecting themselves from violence and assault, because Joanna fucking Lumley says so.

At what age should girls and women start protecting themselves from perverts and predators? Aged 10?

The point is the narrative needs to change to “men: stop harassing women”. But whenever we try people, including women, lose their shit and start boo-hooing about not all men

Most men I know manage fine. Why would they be scared to look at a woman? What do they think will happen? Is it worse than teenagers being scared to walk past a building site? Which definitely used to be the case, not sure if it still is

Not very easily. A dirty magazine and you'd have to buy it in the newsagents or set up a mail order to your home address. Very difficult for men to access porn videos. Most didn't have a way to watch videos at home or if they did it would be a family TV with VCR in the living room. Could be done if you lived alone but still expensive, a delay incurred, you could watch a limited selection. Nothing like now .

Ah, the good old days when it was fine to sexually harass and assault women in public...

We were tougher in my day, give me a break lady.

What regressive thinking. It was the objectification of women for the male gaze was socially acceptable and now that's lessened a bit but still exists.

Ok, so at what age was I supposed to become street smart then? 16? 18?

But it’s ok if they’re 18? If some guy passing in a van can even tell a woman’s age - I doubt these men are applying “think 25” when considering whether the person they’re pestering is actually even an adult.

(It’s a moot point anyway, it’s unacceptable behaviour towards anybody no matter their age.)

OK, what age do you think women/girls should start 'looking after themselves'?

I mean there's several posts on here where girls were getting harassed at 10.

And what age should we take these whistles as a compliment. The average age for it starting is about 12 (going by this thread) so should 12yo girls be complimented by men whistling at them? 13? 14? Or does something magical happen on their 16th birthdays and that makes it acceptable? How do men know these girls are over the legal age?

We all know these whistles usually stop maybe mid 20s-30ish, so men are actively doing this to very young girls and women.

And you're defending it ffs.

So are they only “perverts” if they wolf whistle at kids but if they wolf whistle and women aged 18+ they’re <checks notes> admirers?

I’m mid 60s and I don’t recognise the world you describe at all. Perhaps it’s an urban world. I grew up in the countryside and everybody knew everybody else.

I guess what I’m trying to figure out is why it’s completely unacceptable and disgusting to do to someone aged “young girls” aged 17 years and 364 days and younger but as soon as she turns a day older it’s fine and should be appreciated?

I don’t understand the mindset of protecting children from predators but when it comes to women, fuck ‘em

I'm shocked she would say this, I thought she was a bit more switched on.

For every woman who felt confident to handle it/not bothered I'm sure there were countless more who were upset by it/didn't want their leg touched but didn't feel they could say anything.

Hahahah typical.

I’m assuming that no it’s not ok. Good…what about a 17yo? Is it ok to wolf whistle a 17yo?