Page 17 | To think that wolf whistling wasn't such a bad thing?

FancyLilacHare · 27/01/2025 01:22

No.
It was excruciating when I was a teenager.
And frightening.
It takes years to get to the tough stage and before that stage is reached, frightened teenage girls were absolutely persecuted by dirty vile men.
She's not that bright is she.

Saphire123 · 27/01/2025 01:10

Whotenanny · 27/01/2025 01:05

I'd rather be wolf whistled at than a man shouting "suck my dick, bitch" at me. The former makes me roll my eyes, the second scares me.

Personally, I'd rather a gentleman tip, or even raise, his hat and say "good morning". That's a world I wouldn't mind living in.

I think some posters on MN would find even that kind of behaviour offensive.

Whotenanny · 27/01/2025 01:05

I'd rather be wolf whistled at than a man shouting "suck my dick, bitch" at me. The former makes me roll my eyes, the second scares me.

Personally, I'd rather a gentleman tip, or even raise, his hat and say "good morning". That's a world I wouldn't mind living in.

JandamiHash · 27/01/2025 01:02

fairycakes1234 · 27/01/2025 01:01

You were talking to someone that had sane opinions as me?

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So you concede that I wasn’t talking to you?

fairycakes1234 · 27/01/2025 01:01

JandamiHash · 27/01/2025 00:59

I wasn’t talking to you?

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You were talking to someone that had sane opinions as me?

JandamiHash · 27/01/2025 00:59

fairycakes1234 · 26/01/2025 23:35

Wah? I just gave my experience and probably 100s of women in the 80s, you don't have to feel sorry for me, honestly but thanks for your conern🤣

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I wasn’t talking to you?

Saphire123 · 27/01/2025 00:30

PigInAHouse · 26/01/2025 18:28

I don’t understand the ‘I’ve never seen it happen’ anecdotes, if not to doubt the accounts of those who have experienced it.
Just because you didn’t see it, doesn’t mean it doesn’t happen.
I also agree that a man wouldn’t be confused between a woman and a child. Again, you’ve missed my point. It gives them that plausible deniability, doesn’t it? Of course they know it’s a child, but they can say that they didn’t know. And if wolf whistling is acceptable, well they were just whistling at someone they (claim to) have thought was an adult.

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Your opinion of men seems to be very low

fairycakes1234 · 27/01/2025 00:27

Bbq1 · 27/01/2025 00:16

Nothing at all. I have a really great life, happily married for almost 30 years with a great family. No bad experiences and I have great self worth. All good thanks. Pathetic and laughable of you to think i base my self worth on a few wolf whistles years ago
I'll leave this thread now so you can all shout and rant unchallenged into your echo chamber.

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Agree with everything you said!!

Bbq1 · 27/01/2025 00:16

JandamiHash · 26/01/2025 23:28

In that case I’m very sorry about whatever you experienced that caused you to have such low self worth

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Nothing at all. I have a really great life, happily married for almost 30 years with a great family. No bad experiences and I have great self worth. All good thanks. Pathetic and laughable of you to think i base my self worth on a few wolf whistles years ago
I'll leave this thread now so you can all shout and rant unchallenged into your echo chamber.

NattyTurtle59 · 27/01/2025 00:01

I agree with Joanna, on both counts.

Saphire123 · 26/01/2025 23:55

Jumpingthruhoops · 26/01/2025 23:47

Well, it's her opinion, so in her world she's right, I guess. People can agree or disagree.

For me personally, I didn't ever mind being wolf-whistled. And she's spot on about the hand-on-leg thing - you totally would just give the man a slap.
BUT in both these instances we're talking about 'back in the day'. These days, neither would be tolerated and I think, in both instances, would have way more 'sinister' undertones to the 'lad' nature of yesteryear. Just my opinion.

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'Back in the day' we never heard of drinks being spiked, I never heard a man refer to a woman as a cunt or a twat. In comparison to how women are treated today, I think Joanna Lumley and her like had it easy.

Thegoatliesdownonbroadway · 26/01/2025 23:48

Back then, a house cost 4 x the average salary. Now it's 10 x the average salary.

Jumpingthruhoops · 26/01/2025 23:47

NovemberMorn · 26/01/2025 13:41

Joanna Lumley has just given an interview in which she says..."I never minded wolf whistling, I always thought it was tremendous".

She also said... "I think we were a little bit tougher then. Somebody put their hand on your leg, you didn’t feel affronted and report it. You’d give them a slap.”

Do you think she is right?

Well, it's her opinion, so in her world she's right, I guess. People can agree or disagree.

For me personally, I didn't ever mind being wolf-whistled. And she's spot on about the hand-on-leg thing - you totally would just give the man a slap.
BUT in both these instances we're talking about 'back in the day'. These days, neither would be tolerated and I think, in both instances, would have way more 'sinister' undertones to the 'lad' nature of yesteryear. Just my opinion.

Saphire123 · 26/01/2025 23:46

JandamiHash · 26/01/2025 23:28

In that case I’m very sorry about whatever you experienced that caused you to have such low self worth

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Reading through the thread, time and time again, some women have used a superior tone and tried to talk down to the posters who were not offended.
Very odd.

fairycakes1234 · 26/01/2025 23:37

PigInAHouse · 26/01/2025 20:42

Maybe you just liked the validation then? In a ‘see, I knew I was gorgeous’ kind of way?

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Doubt it, we didn't think we were georgous then, it was just a thing men did, majority didn't give it a thought to be honest

fairycakes1234 · 26/01/2025 23:35

JandamiHash · 26/01/2025 23:28

In that case I’m very sorry about whatever you experienced that caused you to have such low self worth

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Wah? I just gave my experience and probably 100s of women in the 80s, you don't have to feel sorry for me, honestly but thanks for your conern🤣

fairycakes1234 · 26/01/2025 23:33

Worked beside a building site and got wolf whistled all the time, never thought much of it to he honest, I was in my 20s, I'm invisible now....we spoke about this and my daughter was horrified, that this happened, she was outraged on my behalf😔

JandamiHash · 26/01/2025 23:28

Bbq1 · 26/01/2025 16:25

Agree with you and Joanna. I found it very flattering too. I think women were more able to handle themselves in the past. So many women now are permanently offended or just hate men.

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In that case I’m very sorry about whatever you experienced that caused you to have such low self worth

Saphire123 · 26/01/2025 23:26

Most women of a certain age would have been whistled at years ago.
For me it was nothing to bother about, I was neither flattered or insulted, it just wasnt important to me.

Social acceptance of how men behave towards woman has changed, so are women treated with any more respect nowadays?
I don't think so.

laurini · 26/01/2025 22:37

I was first wolf whistled when I was 13. I was alone and it made me feel quite scared and awkward. Disagree with what JL said.

aliceinawonderland · 26/01/2025 22:33

5128gap · 26/01/2025 19:15

Do you feel differently now you're older? I just find it really difficult to understand how women would see the attention of these types as a compliment. I remember even when we were young, my friends and I would feel very put out at the idea these horrible, crude older men would have the audacity to think they had a chance of our attention. All the issues of sexism and objectification aside, I've always thought it was actually insulting in "Are you kidding me..?" type way.

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I haven't given it much headspace until this thread, but in general it was builders in their twenties, I was in my twenties and it was a bit of a laugh before getting on the tube.
I wouldn't have liked it if they'd been on the same level, but I never had that experience. These ones were usually two storeys above me

marmaladeandpeanutbutter · 26/01/2025 22:26

I used to bloody hate it. It could be intimidating, especially if you walked past something like a building site.

PigInAHouse · 26/01/2025 20:42

Bbq1 · 26/01/2025 20:39

I have high self esteem in all areas, absolutely nothing to do with that at all. It's such a fleeting moment, it really doesn't matter.

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Maybe you just liked the validation then? In a ‘see, I knew I was gorgeous’ kind of way?

Bbq1 · 26/01/2025 20:39

TheWorminLabyrinth · 26/01/2025 16:32

What's flattering about it? They do it to anyone. You must have crippling low self-esteem if you are flattered by a complete stranger ranking your sexual attractiveness in the street.

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I have high self esteem in all areas, absolutely nothing to do with that at all. It's such a fleeting moment, it really doesn't matter.

Coolasfeck · 26/01/2025 20:13

Yes this ‘meetoo’ business has gone to far. Let’s bring back Page 3, Benny Hill and Jimmy Saville whilst we’re at it…

I think Joanna Lumley wore out her welcome years ago when she declared herself Boris Johnson’s best mate and got him to spaff millions or pounds of taxpayers money up the wall for a garden bridge which was never built.

You have to pick sense out of nonsense with her. She’s a proper ‘pick-me’ and no friend of women.