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Household income. Where are you?

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chonka901 · 26/01/2025 11:43

https://ifs.org.uk/toolsanddresources/wheredooyoufitt_in

Using this link and putting in everything joint net income ,including child benefit and maintenance which I think it takes into account. It has us at 73 percent. Not a stealth boast before any states that. Genuinely surprised.

I certainly don't feel like this but appreciate people survive on less. It doesn't take into account mortgages, rent, generational wealth, inheritance, childcare etc so is a guide.

It is eye opening though.

I feel poor compared to my friends though. We definitely are not the London elite. Just public sector workers in the North. I guess the maintenance helps. My friends must be in the top 20 percent.

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Cottagecheeseisnotcheese · 26/01/2025 15:47

I'm at 23% but feel i'm doing fine but I have savings and a decent pension and housing costs will drop dramatically next year and will be about 40% and I'llstill be able to add to savings

The problem with this is that one persons essentials are anothers persons luxuries so if there was £1000 a month for food and one family of 4 might consider £400 for all food including takeaways perfectly adequate another family could be spending £800 on food and another £200 on eating out; so on paper one family looks like it has no spare cash the other has £600 spare cash but in reality they both had a 1000 and chose to spend it differently the same applies to housing one couple with 1 child is happy in small 2 bed flat another feels they need a 3 bed detached house with garden and home office and garage one has huge mortgage the other small it's a choice start adding in whether in london or cumbria and the differences increase again, then if one has a sister and mother to look after child hile they work and the other has to pay full time child care,
it is impossible for a simple calulation to work things out

but within the necessities there is a huge amount of personal choice if you are better off, if poorer you have to just rent the very cheapest place, budget to the last penny at supermarket and pray nothing breaks

there are not very many families where a 3 bed flat, terrace or semi would actually be inadequate housing

Maia77 · 26/01/2025 15:47

Better off than 74% of the population (including housing costs). Doesn't feel like that.

WellerUser · 26/01/2025 15:47

boxyboxs · 26/01/2025 15:07

@WellerUser you said family so need to include dc & originally use gross figures...

What more do you want from me?
Adding in children just increases the income by the child benefit, (which is lost for those earning over £60k). So, if anything, it could put the household into a higher percentile. I previously gave gross figures of salaries for two people at £50k.

If you want to check for yourself, be my guest. You just can't believe that two people on £50k are in that high a percentile. Which was my original point.

hunkysnory · 26/01/2025 15:44

nellythe · 26/01/2025 15:24

Did you put in net or gross income?

Even for Mumsnet, there seems to be a very skewed amount of 95%+ on here so I’m wondering if people aren’t putting their net income in!

Edited

Tbh ours is 73% and our income is comparatively low (very average if anything low salaries) so not sure what the calculator says.

FoxInTheForest · 26/01/2025 15:41

Ours went from 22nd percentage with 4 kids, calculated the same amount with 2 kids and it put 38th percentage.
I don't think it's really a reliable representation, they definitely don't cost that much extra per child 😂
And if I don't include hosting costs and 2 kids it's 51st, yet our mortgage is only £1200 which is the lower side of average, in our area anyway.

Animatorbum · 26/01/2025 15:37

26% but I only work part time and have a 4 year old that just started school this academic year.

Not on the bones of our arse but definitely watch what we spend. No debt, decent savings and a good chunk of equity in a mortgaged house though.

I do need to find a job with more hours, get a second job or do something to boost my earnings though. My career choice and experience unfortunately lends itself more to childless people who are flexible enough to move around the country.

Jenkibubble · 26/01/2025 15:37

TheOtherAgentJohnson · 26/01/2025 14:54

But the calculator puts my household in the top 10%, even though neither of us is a high earner. We all know there's a tiny number of super-rich, but for people like me to be in the top 10%, there must be loads of people on terrible incomes.

Yes, the country is insanely unequal, and it's terrible for everyone overall, but people keep voting for it.

Yes , a minimum wage job of 40 hours a week would be 25k a year .

Some can’t do those hours eg childcare etc

IHateBakedBeans · 26/01/2025 15:37

99%. Apparently.

User79853257976 · 26/01/2025 15:37

We are slightly higher than you but in the south. We have some debt and can’t move due to living down here.

PigInAHouse · 26/01/2025 15:36

nellythe · 26/01/2025 15:24

Did you put in net or gross income?

Even for Mumsnet, there seems to be a very skewed amount of 95%+ on here so I’m wondering if people aren’t putting their net income in!

Edited

97% here, net income. I think the people saying ‘I don’t feel it’ must have very high housing costs. Our mortgage is under £1k per month I wouldn’t say ‘I don’t feel it’.

Homesteady · 26/01/2025 15:30

We're at 16% 👌Doing better than 10.6 million people
I am ambulant disabled and can only pick up little jobs here and there. Puts it into persepctive when big political campaigns try to go for disability benefits like we're lapping it up in luxury. We get on okay but have learnt to compromise, sacrifice and learn how to do things and make things for ourselves. Our clothes are second hand, our appliances and electronics are all second hand, we've been on one family holiday in seven years and had to do it on credit. This is just how it is, no complaints. We are housed, clothed and together as a family <3

nellythe · 26/01/2025 15:29

chonka901 · 26/01/2025 15:26

@nellythe

Was going to say the same thing. I knew mumsmet had a lot of high earners but where are all the 30-60 people?

I think that’s the cause of the discrepancy also with so many in the 90s% saying they feel they struggle. One poster was around 95% (if I remember correctly) and said buying cat food was a cause of problem. I’m at 87% and, although certainly not flush at the end of the month, I definitely don’t live frugally so it just doesn’t make sense if this is truly peoples net and not gross income!

Jenkibubble · 26/01/2025 15:29

cushionfiend · 26/01/2025 12:02

Interesting. I'm a single parent of a 17-y-o. When I put in my earnings, plus the small amount I get in child benefit and maintenance, it puts me on 19%. But once the teenager turns 18 and is technically an adult, so I remove them and those additional amounts, I'm up to 41%. But obvs that doesn't take into account any further costs for supporting the young person at uni or when at home during breaks, etc.

Ditto - mine currently is 21% but when son is 18 I will be up to 43% despite losing CB / UC for him .
Yes , the food bill will go down BUT my mortgage % goes up too

Allatonce2024 · 26/01/2025 15:27

38% which feels about right. Pretty much in the middle. We still go on nice holidays abroad every year, have a new TV, gym memberships and a car.

Edit: 14%!! I didn't realise you're meant to put net income...

God, now I feel kind of shit about my life a when I thought I was doing well!

chonka901 · 26/01/2025 15:26

@nellythe

Was going to say the same thing. I knew mumsmet had a lot of high earners but where are all the 30-60 people?

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nellythe · 26/01/2025 15:24

Fedupdoc · 26/01/2025 15:20

Higher than 97% apparently. Do not feel it

Did you put in net or gross income?

Even for Mumsnet, there seems to be a very skewed amount of 95%+ on here so I’m wondering if people aren’t putting their net income in!

Fedupdoc · 26/01/2025 15:20

Higher than 97% apparently. Do not feel it

Astrabees · 26/01/2025 15:16

83% not quite sure how as we are retired and on modest pensions, I’d say objectively “comfortable “ would describe our status financially.

HonoraBridge · 26/01/2025 15:15

97% and I don’t feel rich

ItWasTheBestOfTimes · 26/01/2025 15:14

84% on net incomes no housing costs, and the same when I put housing costs in. Surprised although I know we are comfortable I didn’t think it would be that high.

boxyboxs · 26/01/2025 15:12

I do think people don't understand what the word rich means or it's skews by the likes of Elon and Jeff who are miles away from the majority. The Euromillions was 85m, the winner can't afford the most expensive London property but it doesn't mean they aren't rich. Someone here in the 99% percentile with a 500k income is rich imo.

Notgoodatpoetrybutgreatatlit · 26/01/2025 15:11

@TheOtherAgentJohnson
This is so true, I have always voted Labour or socialist, but I fear I will not live long enough to see a Britain as equal as the one I was born into in 1966. But I am going to keep hoping. I used to wonder why my grandmother supported so many charities but I get it now and do the same.

Nameynameynamename · 26/01/2025 15:08

27% which surprises me because our housing costs are below average for the area (because of inheritance) and I don't particularly feel like we are struggling.

user1471538275 · 26/01/2025 15:07

Prison population is 87,000 odd - so they would be part of the £0 group I think.

If you live in a care home and are paid for by the LA you still get £30 per week as personal allowance so whilst low they're not £0

Who else? I'm genuinely wondering who would count in this group.

boxyboxs · 26/01/2025 15:07

@WellerUser you said family so need to include dc & originally use gross figures...

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